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Location: Beggs, OK | Delayed toxicity is what everyone is going to need to look out for. A horse that's fine now may take 2-4 months to show signs of a problem. Getting a baseline Cardiac Troponin level now and checking it once a month for a while will help give you some information. This is just a serum sample blood test. Vets will tell you that it's not useful if it's not taken soon after exposure, but I've seen several instances where that is not true. A cardiac workup at a vet facility will also help to rule out possible damage. They can do ultrasounds for function and an exercising ECG. A full CBC will be able to tell you if there is inflammation that needs to be checked out.
If you suspect your horse has been exposed definitely get CBC and cardiac troponin testing done once a month for a few months and evaluate to see if there's a need to go further with the cardiac testing. Royal Palm has had horses that show normal troponin levels have evidence of heart abnormalities on ECG though. |
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Location: N Texas | Yesterday afternoon I took six unopened bags of ADM PrimeGLO back to the feed store and exchanged it for Renew Gold. I talked to the owner about it because she was wondering why I suddenly decided to stop feeding it after so long. I told her about my conversation with the ADM rep at the facility that the feed is manufactured, and how they run the horse feed and the medicated feed through the same machines. She wasn't too pleased to find out that they did that, she said they should never go through the same machines. She told me she would give them a call and talk to the "higher ups" to figure out what's going on. She was very understanding about it and agreed that I shouldn't take a chance getting my horses sick. So I have no idea what they're going to do about carrying ADM feeds in their store. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I ordered some Renew Gold from our TSC store and when I went to pick it up the guy told me I wouldn't have to order it anymore since all of a sudden he has been getting a lot of requests for it. I asked him if he knew what was going on with tainted feed and he didn't have a clue what was going on. He does now. Plus the store down the road where I was getting it...went up to $42.00 a bag and TSC sells it for $29.95.
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Location: Beggs, OK | I picked up some more Chaffhaye yesterday for my old girl. It's still running $13.95 a bag. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I do know that there is going to be another news article out on the monensin posioning soon. And, hopefully, more info with it from the FDA. 
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Nevertooold - 2015-02-13 9:18 AM
I ordered some Renew Gold from our TSC store and when I went to pick it up the guy told me I wouldn't have to order it anymore since all of a sudden he has been getting a lot of requests for it. I asked him if he knew what was going on with tainted feed and he didn't have a clue what was going on. He does now. Plus the store down the road where I was getting it...went up to $42.00 a bag and TSC sells it for $29.95.
I have had one of mine on Renew Gold since November and he did so well I switched my hard keeper to it also. My feed store was selling it for $38.95 a bag when I started and now it's $42.50! This really made me mad so I called my local TSC and they ordered some for me . Why do they want to gouge us? More than $10 more a bag is ridiculous. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-02-13 7:32 AM Delayed toxicity is what everyone is going to need to look out for. A horse that's fine now may take 2-4 months to show signs of a problem. Getting a baseline Cardiac Troponin level now and checking it once a month for a while will help give you some information. This is just a serum sample blood test. Vets will tell you that it's not useful if it's not taken soon after exposure, but I've seen several instances where that is not true. A cardiac workup at a vet facility will also help to rule out possible damage. They can do ultrasounds for function and an exercising ECG. A full CBC will be able to tell you if there is inflammation that needs to be checked out.
If you suspect your horse has been exposed definitely get CBC and cardiac troponin testing done once a month for a few months and evaluate to see if there's a need to go further with the cardiac testing. Royal Palm has had horses that show normal troponin levels have evidence of heart abnormalities on ECG though.
Thanks for the info. My vet is being very proactive about this and helping me get the feed tested. If it comes back positive we are ready to roll on testing. Very nerve-racking! |
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Location: Here | http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/news/wallace-eventing-drops-adm-equine-feed-sponsorship.aspx
Wallace Eventing Drops ADM Equine Feed Sponsorship
by RMHP Staff, Georgia based event rider Elisa Wallace announced Thursday she is parting ways with ADM Alliance Nutrition, Inc. Controversy has surrounded ADM recently due to the company's response amid allegations its feed is contaminated with monensin. Wallace said in a statement she can no longer endorse ADM's horse feed because she is unwilling to support any product that she doesn't use with confidence. "I have decided to relinquish my sponsorship, in light of the actions, or lack thereof, of ADM in the monensin contamination cases," she says. According to lab results, ADM Patriot Performance 12-10, ADM Patriot Junior, and ADM Alliance Nutrition 12% have tested positive for monensin. The feed was produced at a mill in Cordele, Georgia. Despite test results showing contamination, the feed remains on store shelves. ADM company representatives at the corporate and local level are telling customers the feed is safe for their horses to eat, according to multiple sources. Monensin is used to improve feed efficiency in cattle and can be found in premix formulas. Cross-contamination in the milling process during the formulation of equine feed, due to human error, is one way horses can become exposed. Monensin is highly poisonous to horses and affects the heart and skeletal muscles. The level of toxicity is dose and individual dependent. "Trust is imperative in any relationship and I feel that has been lost," Wallace said in a statement. "My horses come first over any sponsorship and horse owners should not have to worry about feeding their horses poison. Monensin should not be in horse feed." A call to Wallace was not immediately returned. A FDA spokesperson recently told Rate My Horse PRO, "there is no acceptable amount of monensin allowed in equine feed – it is not approved.” A message for ADM was not immediately returned. Stay with Rate My Horse PRO as we continue following this developing story. |
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Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though)
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Location: Here | CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 11:53 AM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though)
the only way you will know is to pay to have it tested. I would take it back and get $ back |
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Location: Willows, CA | CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 11:53 AM
For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so,  do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!!  Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though)Â
No matter what feed you use, it is in everyone's best interest to understand how to read the production date that is printed on the bag. Once a manufacturer makes the feed and sends it to distribution, how it is stored and rotated out of the distributors warehouse and then rotated out of storage in the feed store can mean that you always have the potential to get old feed. If the dating on the bag is not easily understood, call the feed company and ask them to clearly explain to you how to read the date code. On Renew Gold, the date of production is on the bottom sewn tape strip. It will be four ink numbers. The first number is the year, now a "5". The next three numbers are the day of the year, starting from 001 to represent January 1st, to 365 representing December 31. You should always look at this when you buy a bag of feed, no matter who made it. |
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Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | SG. - 2015-02-13 12:00 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 11:53 AM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) the only way you will know is to pay to have it tested. I would take it back and get $ back
Yes I understand, but it is beyond ridiculous that we as horse owners are being put though this! You purchase feed "thinking" it's safe, now we must have ours horses tested. Worry and stress, plus out of pocket cost on us all caused by cover up and greed..... Unbelievable..... |
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| Triple crown told me feed is good for 45 days in summer and 90 days winter. A year is nuts. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I'm excited! I just got a call from the FDA. They are working on it.............................. |
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Location: Here | 3canstorun - 2015-02-13 1:14 PM
I'm excited! I just got a call from the FDA. They are working on it..............................Â
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Location: Beggs, OK | 3canstorun - 2015-02-13 1:14 PM I'm excited! I just got a call from the FDA. They are working on it..............................
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | mreklaw - 2015-02-13 10:10 AM Nevertooold - 2015-02-13 9:18 AM I ordered some Renew Gold from our TSC store and when I went to pick it up the guy told me I wouldn't have to order it anymore since all of a sudden he has been getting a lot of requests for it. I asked him if he knew what was going on with tainted feed and he didn't have a clue what was going on. He does now. Plus the store down the road where I was getting it...went up to $42.00 a bag and TSC sells it for $29.95. I have had one of mine on Renew Gold since November and he did so well I switched my hard keeper to it also. My feed store was selling it for $38.95 a bag when I started and now it's $42.50! This really made me mad so I called my local TSC and they ordered some for me . Why do they want to gouge us? More than $10 more a bag is ridiculous.
This is my guess...There isn't much mark up in feed so when you have a bag of feed that you only feed 1# a day you are only selling 1 bag for 30 days. If you are feeding 6#'s of another feed that comes to 180#'s a month that comes to over 3 bags a month for one horse.
I found that the feed stores around me consider Renew Gold a supplement and not a feed and they mark up as such and charge tax. TSC considers it a feed and doesn't tax it. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-13 12:36 PM Triple crown told me feed is good for 45 days in summer and 90 days winter. A year is nuts.
Triple Crown doesn't use all the preservatives like many other feed companies and is why their expiration of feed is so much sooner and is the reason they have been my choice of feeds. I really got upset over the consistency of the Triple Crown coming out of the Meneola mill and quit feeding it for awhile and just went back as I mix a couple of cups of it with beet bulp and give Renew Gold in the morning. I'm thrilled Triple Crown no longer uses the Meneola mill as I just bought a bag today and it is the supremo feed that I started to feed years ago.
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