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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | This artilce is from 2012 - pretty interesting
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2012/01/malheur_county_targeted_for_go.html | |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Interesting reads. http://annavonreitz.com/ | |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | If this doesn't raise the hair on the back of your neck...you're a numb skull, literally and figuratively: "Among these indicators is the Gadsden Flag (shown) and the logo of the Oathkeepers, an organization composed of veterans and active-duty military members committed to upholding the Constitution... potentially volatile persons..." We are watching, in real time, a repeat of what happened in the USSR...yes, Russia. And Nazi Germany. And Cuba. Will you pledge allegiance to this New World Order?
Edited by musikmaker 2016-02-11 9:29 AM
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Nicknameless
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | New live link this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=616S8t9tek4&feature=youtu.be
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Location: the end of the rainbow | Let's add some fuel to the fire, here's a whole different batch of haters taking the law into their own hands. http://www.ironcountytoday.com/view/full_story/27081323/article-Washington-County-commissioner-sends-urgent-alert-to-State-Cattlemen-s-Association?instance=secondary_stories_left_column
Edited by willrodeo4food 2016-02-11 10:13 AM
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Nicknameless
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | willrodeo4food - 2016-02-11 9:12 AM Let's add some fuel to the fire, here's a whole different batch of haters taking the law into their own hands. http://www.ironcountytoday.com/view/full_story/27081323/article-Washington-County-commissioner-sends-urgent-alert-to-State-Cattlemen-s-Association?instance=secondary_stories_left_column
I'm not sure who you're calling the "batch of haters taking the law into their own hands"? Depending on where a persons from, their level of education concerning our constitution and the rule of law, their expectations concerning the role of a federal governement in our lives, how they may be 'affected' personally...then it could be construed to be either group!
The cow killing has been going on in my backyard for over 20 years. The people who do this are very...weird. They're the 'dance on the rocks naked while blowed out of their minds on pschodelic drugs' type. They DO have a very sick attitude and extreme hate towards ranchers, farmers...producers of any kind. They claim to hate the 'corporate world', yet, suwa, the sierra club, earth first, etc...are the ultimate 'non-profit-corporations' who make tons of money dividing the people and sueing the federal gov't (know that a state cannot be sued...it would destroy them if they lose the ability to sue over the land) at a cost of millions of $$'s every year. It's a racket. So, yeah...I would definitely say 'they' are the "batch of haters taking the law into their own hands".
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Are you all listening to the live stream? David is melting down. Lord please give David wisdom. Suicide by cop is not the way David.
Edited by ThreeCorners 2016-02-11 12:04 PM
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Knowledge is Power
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Did they cut the livefeed or is it my internet connection acting up. Didn't sound like it was going well with David. | |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | cruise - 2016-02-11 12:04 PM Did they cut the livefeed or is it my internet connection acting up. Didn't sound like it was going well with David.
Just refresh your feed page. | |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | ThreeCorners - 2016-02-11 11:03 AM Are you all listening to the live stream? David is melting down. Lord please give David wisdom. Suicide by cop is not the way David. He's sadly holding a gun to his own head...I had to turn the volumne way down and walk away. He's not doing anyone any good...especially himself. He's tired, he's scared. God have mercy.
David Fry, the last holdout at the refuge, has walked out and is now in FBI custody. It was a tense final hour as David contemplated suicide. He was especially upset over abuses by the federal government, such as our tax dollars being used to fund abortions.
Regardless of what one thinks about David personally, his frustrations with the tyranny of the federal government are felt by many, many Americans across the nation.
Edited by musikmaker 2016-02-11 12:59 PM
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBgPgjYqe0g | |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | This is a good FB page. Please everyone go like it. They are also calling for everyone to call to have the Harney Co. Sheriff investigated. https://www.facebook.com/OwO-433520276841306/
Edited by ThreeCorners 2016-02-11 3:10 PM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Updates? Any gunfire? Arrests? | |
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 The Original Cyber Bartender
Location: Washington | Hallelujah! | |
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Expert
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Location: The Great Northwest | Day 41 and the occupation/stand-off is over. It is not over in the courts. Americans are not losing their rights of liberty. | |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | They're saying that the whole thing was David Fry effing with the fbi...looking back, I see it.
Okay. I have to ask...did Oregon give up their states rights? Are they now a 'federal enclave'?
Why else did they not arrest Cliven in Nevada?
Could it be because Nevada hasn't 'welcomed' the fed to take over...yet?
When you google Federal Enclave:
In United States law, a "federal enclave" is a parcel of federal property within a state that is under the "Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction of the United States."
When you google the rest? Lol...try it out...I've tried really hard to not go there...and here I am.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/7
The term “special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States”, as used in this title, includes:(1 ) The high seas, any other waters within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and out of the jurisdiction of any particular State, and any vessel belonging in whole or in part to the United States or any citizen thereof, or to any corporation created by or under the laws of the United States, or of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, when such vessel is within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and out of the jurisdiction of any particular State. (2 ) Any vessel registered, licensed, or enrolled under the laws of the United States, and being on a voyage upon the waters of any of the Great Lakes, or any of the waters connecting them, or upon the Saint Lawrence River where the same constitutes the International Boundary Line. (3 ) Any lands reserved or acquired for the use of the United States, and under the exclusive or concurrent jurisdiction thereof, or any place purchased or otherwise acquired by the United States by consent of the legislature of the State in which the same shall be, for the erection of a fort, magazine, arsenal, dockyard, or other needful building. (4 ) Any island, rock, or key containing deposits of guano, which may, at the discretion of the President, be considered as appertaining to the United States. (5 ) Any aircraft belonging in whole or in part to the United States, or any citizen thereof, or to any corporation created by or under the laws of the United States, or any State, Territory, district, or possession thereof, while such aircraft is in flight over the high seas, or over any other waters within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and out of the jurisdiction of any particular State. (6 ) Any vehicle used or designed for flight or navigation in space and on the registry of the United States pursuant to the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies and the Convention on Registration of Objects Launched into Outer Space, while that vehicle is in flight, which is from the moment when all external doors are closed on Earth following embarkation until the moment when one such door is opened on Earth for disembarkation or in the case of a forced landing, until the competent authorities take over the responsibility for the vehicle and for persons and property aboard. (7 ) Any place outside the jurisdiction of any nation with respect to an offense by or against a national of the United States. (8 ) To the extent permitted by international law, any foreign vessel during a voyage having a scheduled departure from or arrival in the United States with respect to an offense committed by or against a national of the United States. (9 ) With respect to offenses committed by or against a national of the United States as that term is used in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act— (A ) the premises of United States diplomatic, consular, military or other United States Government missions or entities in foreign States, including the buildings, parts of buildings, and land appurtenant or ancillary thereto or used for purposes of those missions or entities, irrespective of ownership; and (B ) residences in foreign States and the land appurtenant or ancillary thereto, irrespective of ownership, used for purposes of those missions or entities or used by United States personnel assigned to those missions or entities. Nothing in this paragraph shall be deemed to supersede any treaty or international agreement with which this paragraph conflicts. This paragraph does not apply with respect to an offense committed by a person described in section 3261(a) of this title. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 685; July 12, 1952, ch. 695, 66 Stat. 589; Pub. L. 97–96, §?6, Dec. 21, 1981, 95 Stat. 1210; Pub. L. 98–473, title II, §?1210, Oct. 12, 1984, 98 Stat. 2164; Pub. L. 103–322, title XII, §?120002, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2021; Pub. L. 107–56, title VIII, §?804, Oct. 26, 2001, 115 Stat. 377. )
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Some more pieces to the puzzle as to how Hammonds were ordered back to jail. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/04/unbelievable-update-oregon-bundy-militia-standoff-the-federal-prosecutor-at-the-heart-of-the-hammond-family-problem/ | |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | musikmaker - 2016-02-11 9:12 PM They're saying that the whole thing was David Fry effing with the fbi...looking back, I see it.
Okay. I have to ask...did Oregon give up their states rights? Are they now a 'federal enclave'?
Why else did they not arrest Cliven in Nevada?
Could it be because Nevada hasn't 'welcomed' the fed to take over...yet?
When you google Federal Enclave:
In United States law, a "federal enclave" is a parcel of federal property within a state that is under the "Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction of the United States."
When you google the rest? Lol...try it out...I've tried really hard to not go there...and here I am.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/7
The term “special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States”, as used in this title, includes:
(1 )
The high seas, any other waters within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and out of the jurisdiction of any particular State, and any vessel belonging in whole or in part to the United States or any citizen thereof, or to any corporation created by or under the laws of the United States, or of any State, Territory, District, or possession thereof, when such vessel is within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and out of the jurisdiction of any particular State.
(2 )
Any vessel registered, licensed, or enrolled under the laws of the United States, and being on a voyage upon the waters of any of the Great Lakes, or any of the waters connecting them, or upon the Saint Lawrence River where the same constitutes the International Boundary Line.
(3 )
Any lands reserved or acquired for the use of the United States, and under the exclusive or concurrent jurisdiction thereof, or any place purchased or otherwise acquired by the United States by consent of the legislature of the State in which the same shall be, for the erection of a fort, magazine, arsenal, dockyard, or other needful building.
(4 )
Any island, rock, or key containing deposits of guano, which may, at the discretion of the President, be considered as appertaining to the United States.
(5 )
Any aircraft belonging in whole or in part to the United States, or any citizen thereof, or to any corporation created by or under the laws of the United States, or any State, Territory, district, or possession thereof, while such aircraft is in flight over the high seas, or over any other waters within the admiralty and maritime jurisdiction of the United States and out of the jurisdiction of any particular State.
(6 )
Any vehicle used or designed for flight or navigation in space and on the registry of the United States pursuant to the Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, Including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies and the Convention on Registration of Objects Launched into Outer Space, while that vehicle is in flight, which is from the moment when all external doors are closed on Earth following embarkation until the moment when one such door is opened on Earth for disembarkation or in the case of a forced landing, until the competent authorities take over the responsibility for the vehicle and for persons and property aboard.
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Any place outside the jurisdiction of any nation with respect to an offense by or against a national of the United States.
(8 )
To the extent permitted by international law, any foreign vessel during a voyage having a scheduled departure from or arrival in the United States with respect to an offense committed by or against a national of the United States.
(9 ) With respect to offenses committed by or against a national of the United States as that term is used in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act—
(A )
the premises of United States diplomatic, consular, military or other United States Government missions or entities in foreign States, including the buildings, parts of buildings, and land appurtenant or ancillary thereto or used for purposes of those missions or entities, irrespective of ownership; and
(B )
residences in foreign States and the land appurtenant or ancillary thereto, irrespective of ownership, used for purposes of those missions or entities or used by United States personnel assigned to those missions or entities.
Nothing in this paragraph shall be deemed to supersede any treaty or international agreement with which this paragraph conflicts. This paragraph does not apply with respect to an offense committed by a person described in section 3261(a) of this title. (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 685; July 12, 1952, ch. 695, 66 Stat. 589; Pub. L. 97–96, §?6, Dec. 21, 1981, 95 Stat. 1210; Pub. L. 98–473, title II, §?1210, Oct. 12, 1984, 98 Stat. 2164; Pub. L. 103–322, title XII, §?120002, Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2021; Pub. L. 107–56, title VIII, §?804, Oct. 26, 2001, 115 Stat. 377. )
I havent had coffe yet so excuse me but, what is this? Can you explain this? Also, does this have anything to do with that? http://www.resurrecttherepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Oregon-House-Resolution-Rescinding-the-14th-Amendment-Ratification-due-to-Fraud-and-Usurpation.pdf | |
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Nicknameless
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | ThreeCorners - 2016-02-12 6:24 AM Some more pieces to the puzzle as to how Hammonds were ordered back to jail. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/04/unbelievable-update-oregon-bundy-militia-standoff-the-federal-prosecutor-at-the-heart-of-the-hammond-family-problem/
That link didn't work...?
Here's an interesting response from KrisAnne Hall concerning the sheriffs associations statement...she nails it.
http://krisannehall.com/response-to-oregon-sheriff-association-press-release/
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