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       Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2015-02-13 2:18 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-02-13 12:36 PM Triple crown told me feed is good for 45 days in summer and 90 days winter. A year is nuts. Triple Crown doesn't use all the preservatives like many other feed companies and is why their expiration of feed is so much sooner and is the reason they have been my choice of feeds. I really got upset over the consistency of the Triple Crown coming out of the Meneola mill and quit feeding it for awhile and just went back as I mix a couple of cups of it with beet bulp and give Renew Gold in the morning. I'm thrilled Triple Crown no longer uses the Meneola mill as I just bought a bag today and it is the supremo feed that I started to feed years ago.
The Mineola mill closed in October. The TC Senior that I have gotten in the last few months has been from Mississippi and looks good. At this point I am sticking with TC. My son feeds Total Equine and they really like it but I thought my one horse didn't look as good on TE. |
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       Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Can we make awareness pamphlets? Like to hand out at barrel races??? |
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    Location: East Texas | So I had a rep contact me from triple crown. He said my bag came from Arizona, which he said is free. I just read back and according to the list here it's nott. He said they don't use monesin or rumesin. They will use beauvison, but I just saw that can be an issue too! He said he prefers the shelf life to be 60 days and mine was 80. According to him he never gets bad calls or complaints about it. Honestly I'm still not satisfied with that answer. They are coming to pick my sack up and have it tested too.
Also, just called casa grande, az mill and they said they didn't manufacturers triple crown feeds. I am so confused
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though)
That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot.. |
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| Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 2:40 PM
So I had a rep contact me from triple crown. He said my bag came from Arizona, which he said is free. I just read back and according to the list here it's nott. He said they don't use monesin or rumesin. They will use beauvison, but I just saw that can be an issue too! He said he prefers the shelf life to be 60 days and mine was 80. According to him he never gets bad calls or complaints about it. Honestly I'm still not satisfied with that answer. They are coming to pick my sack up and have it tested too.Β
Also, just called casa grande, az mill and they said they didn't manufacturers triple crown feeds. I am so confusedΒ
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Does your TC tag say CG? Mine all comes from there to! Casa grande. Yes they make it and according to Stacey at TC they do make medicated cattle feed there. I have never had a problem. I have couple bags left and might switch. |
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      Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 4:46 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot..
Thank you for responding Bibliafarm! I had been feeding Ultimn for years, but heard good things about ADM and finally found a dealer close, well 30 miles from me and started feeding this not knowing any of these problems were going on. Im just sick to death and kicking myself for switching to ADM in the first place. My horses eat about half a bag or so but I took them off it immediately when I started reading this post. Didn't know there was a difference in performance and reg. thank you for letting me know. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 4:40 PM So I had a rep contact me from triple crown. He said my bag came from Arizona, which he said is free. I just read back and according to the list here it's nott. He said they don't use monesin or rumesin. They will use beauvison, but I just saw that can be an issue too! He said he prefers the shelf life to be 60 days and mine was 80. According to him he never gets bad calls or complaints about it. Honestly I'm still not satisfied with that answer. They are coming to pick my sack up and have it tested too.
Also, just called casa grande, az mill and they said they didn't manufacturers triple crown feeds. I am so confused
I was told the CG mill has segregrated areas for milling horse and medicated cattle feed but is not ionophore free.
I don't know about anyone else but this is giving me a migraine. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 6:47 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 4:46 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot.. Thank you for responding Bibliafarm! I had been feeding Ultimn for years, but heard good things about ADM and finally found a dealer close, well 30 miles from me and started feeding this not knowing any of these problems were going on. Im just sick to death and kicking myself for switching to ADM in the first place. My horses eat about half a bag or so but I took them off it immediately when I started reading this post. Didn't know there was a difference in performance and reg. thank you for letting me know. I was on my cell and I apologize..I didnt see the bag very good.. that IS the Performance patriot that Royal palms and sc horses had been feeding.. I dont know about Yours but that is the feed.. I thought it was the easy feed patriot you had posted..sorry about that...
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    Location: East Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-13 5:29 PM Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 2:40 PM So I had a rep contact me from triple crown. He said my bag came from Arizona, which he said is free. I just read back and according to the list here it's nott. He said they don't use monesin or rumesin. They will use beauvison, but I just saw that can be an issue too! He said he prefers the shelf life to be 60 days and mine was 80. According to him he never gets bad calls or complaints about it. Honestly I'm still not satisfied with that answer. They are coming to pick my sack up and have it tested too.
Also, just called casa grande, az mill and they said they didn't manufacturers triple crown feeds. I am so confused
Does your TC tag say CG? Mine all comes from there to! Casa grande. Yes they make it and according to Stacey at TC they do make medicated cattle feed there. I have never had a problem. I have couple bags left and might switch.
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  Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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     Location: In a happy place | I bought oats at TSC today and when I was putting it in my containers I found a huge chunk of cattle feed in it. Took the bags back and the store manager told me their oats came from Nutrena. So I guess that will not be oats I will be buying anymore. Just wanted to post this for those that asked if oats were safe to feed. It seems that we need to research everything we feed out horses. I would say not oats are not safer than any of the rest if the mill makes cattle feed along with it's horse feed.
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      Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 7:21 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 6:47 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 4:46 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot.. Thank you for responding Bibliafarm! I had been feeding Ultimn for years, but heard good things about ADM and finally found a dealer close, well 30 miles from me and started feeding this not knowing any of these problems were going on. Im just sick to death and kicking myself for switching to ADM in the first place. My horses eat about half a bag or so but I took them off it immediately when I started reading this post. Didn't know there was a difference in performance and reg. thank you for letting me know. I was on my cell and I apologize..I didnt see the bag very good.. that IS the Performance patriot that Royal palms and sc horses had been feeding.. I dont know about Yours but that is the feed.. I thought it was the easy feed patriot you had posted..sorry about that...
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      Location: Arkansas | Is there no repercussions these companies may have to deal with? |
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 It's not my fault I'm perfect
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        Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | Ugh. That's it! I'm feeding my horses candy bars
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | SmokinGirlie - 2015-02-13 8:53 PM Ugh. That's it! I'm feeding my horses candy bars
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 9:17 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 7:21 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 6:47 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 4:46 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot.. Thank you for responding Bibliafarm! I had been feeding Ultimn for years, but heard good things about ADM and finally found a dealer close, well 30 miles from me and started feeding this not knowing any of these problems were going on. Im just sick to death and kicking myself for switching to ADM in the first place. My horses eat about half a bag or so but I took them off it immediately when I started reading this post. Didn't know there was a difference in performance and reg. thank you for letting me know. I was on my cell and I apologize..I didnt see the bag very good.. that IS the Performance patriot that Royal palms and sc horses had been feeding.. I dont know about Yours but that is the feed.. I thought it was the easy feed patriot you had posted..sorry about that... Oh no...
dont panic yet.. it could be milled at a differant place .. but its still adm .. I cant believe its so old and they were selling it .. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
Posts: 27846
           Location: Florida.. | Dr porter here in florida had posted this on the web.. glad alot of top notch vets are speaking out..
http://michaelporterdvm.blogspot.com/2015/02/ionophore-free-horse-feed-mills.html |
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  Warmblood with Wings
Posts: 27846
           Location: Florida.. | Interesting I found a recall in 2012 of horse feed.. not sure the brand.. http://www.thehorse.com/articles/28868/ionophore-intoxication-in-horses |
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                      Location: Here | http://www.poisonedpets.com/deadly-horse-feed-still-sale-adm-alliance-refuses-pull-feed/ |
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      Location: Always in the Jungle of Ohio | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 9:13 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 9:17 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 7:21 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 6:47 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 4:46 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot.. Thank you for responding Bibliafarm! I had been feeding Ultimn for years, but heard good things about ADM and finally found a dealer close, well 30 miles from me and started feeding this not knowing any of these problems were going on. Im just sick to death and kicking myself for switching to ADM in the first place. My horses eat about half a bag or so but I took them off it immediately when I started reading this post. Didn't know there was a difference in performance and reg. thank you for letting me know. I was on my cell and I apologize..I didnt see the bag very good.. that IS the Performance patriot that Royal palms and sc horses had been feeding.. I dont know about Yours but that is the feed.. I thought it was the easy feed patriot you had posted..sorry about that... Oh no... dont panic yet.. it could be milled at a differant place .. but its still adm .. I cant believe its so old and they were selling it ..
I know that my feed was milled at Sugar a Creek Ohio, and the Gro Strong minerals came from Illinois. I'm as worried about the minerals as I am the feed. Thank goodness for BHW and everyone of you providing us with information! |
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                      Location: Here | CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 10:24 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 9:13 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 9:17 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 7:21 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 6:47 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-13 4:46 PM CHEETAH - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM For thise of you that have been using ADM feed in the past year or so, do you recognize this bag? I made the very big mistake of swiching my feed to ADM a few weeks ago not knowing any of this was happening. Since I'd never used this feed before I had no clue what the sack looked until I brought it. After reading this post and freaking out, I went to ADM"S websiteto find the feed I was using and find out were it came from. I called ADM and read the numbers off the tag and she told me this feed was milled at Suger Creek Oh. on March 28th 2014! This feed is almost a year old and they are still selling it!!! Are you kidding!? She tried to tell me this feed was safe, and I should not worry about feeding it... WTH!!! If its not contamainated, its diff. outdated!!! Yes, Ive stop feeding it, the question for you guys is, because its so old do you think it could be tainted with monensin? ( I hope the photo of the bag comes though) That is the Alliance Patriot feed.. not performance but that is the type of feed that killed the few down south of florida I think.. not sure though..... adm makes patriot performance and reg patriot.. Thank you for responding Bibliafarm! I had been feeding Ultimn for years, but heard good things about ADM and finally found a dealer close, well 30 miles from me and started feeding this not knowing any of these problems were going on. Im just sick to death and kicking myself for switching to ADM in the first place. My horses eat about half a bag or so but I took them off it immediately when I started reading this post. Didn't know there was a difference in performance and reg. thank you for letting me know. I was on my cell and I apologize..I didnt see the bag very good.. that IS the Performance patriot that Royal palms and sc horses had been feeding.. I dont know about Yours but that is the feed.. I thought it was the easy feed patriot you had posted..sorry about that... Oh no... dont panic yet.. it could be milled at a differant place .. but its still adm .. I cant believe its so old and they were selling it .. I know that my feed was milled at Sugar a Creek Ohio, and the Gro Strong minerals came from Illinois. I'm as worried about the minerals as I am the feed. Thank goodness for BHW and everyone of you providing us with information!
Thanks for the reminder. I told hubby last night I needed to pick up the grostrong blocks that have been in the pasture for over a year. My horses used to eat them but no more. interesting.. |
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