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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2015-02-13 8:52 PM Is there no repercussions these companies may have to deal with?
The company in Florida got fined $4,000.00 and settled with horse owners of dead horses ranging from $35,000. and up. They will no longer be making horse feed.
http://www.thehorse.com/articles/35147/state-of-florida-fines-contaminated-horse-feed-manufacturer
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Â Just want to say a big thank you to who are researching this and posting such wonderful information. It is so alarming and so sad to read about the horses that have died or suffered damage from feed. I would think these feed companies make a mint off of people like us and to blow this off like it is nothing is pathetic. As the saying goes - Don't bite the hand that feeds you. |
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Location: East Texas | Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 7:25 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-02-13 5:29 PM Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 2:40 PM So I had a rep contact me from triple crown. He said my bag came from Arizona, which he said is free. I just read back and according to the list here it's nott. He said they don't use monesin or rumesin. They will use beauvison, but I just saw that can be an issue too! He said he prefers the shelf life to be 60 days and mine was 80. According to him he never gets bad calls or complaints about it. Honestly I'm still not satisfied with that answer. They are coming to pick my sack up and have it tested too.Â
Also, just called casa grande, az mill and they said they didn't manufacturers triple crown feeds. I am so confusedÂ
 Does your TC tag say CG? Mine all comes from there to! Casa grande. Yes they make it and according to Stacey at TC they do make medicated cattle feed there. I have never had a problem. I have couple bags left and might switch.
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| Run n on faith - 2015-02-14 7:53 AM
Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 7:25 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-02-13 5:29 PM Run n on faith - 2015-02-13 2:40 PM So I had a rep contact me from triple crown. He said my bag came from Arizona, which he said is free. I just read back and according to the list here it's nott. He said they don't use monesin or rumesin. They will use beauvison, but I just saw that can be an issue too! He said he prefers the shelf life to be 60 days and mine was 80. According to him he never gets bad calls or complaints about it. Honestly I'm still not satisfied with that answer. They are coming to pick my sack up and have it tested too.Â
Also, just called casa grande, az mill and they said they didn't manufacturers triple crown feeds. I am so confusedÂ
 Does your TC tag say CG? Mine all comes from there to! Casa grande. Yes they make it and according to Stacey at TC they do make medicated cattle feed there. I have never had a problem. I have couple bags left and might switch.
My tag says triple crown senior (ST ). Anyone know what mill this might be?
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Location: kentucky | I have read thru alot of this not all but I have fed ADM patriot 14 for about a year now and last week when I was at the feed ADM facility here in my town I talked to them about this issue and they blew it off and said the accusations were coming from a farm that they heard was in financial hardship, they also told me the patriot I purchase comes from there Bluffton, In facility which is a all horse feed facility which I found out thru a little googleing that is not true. Here is the Email I sent to them last week with my concerns, they did reply back wanting my number so someone could speak to me and they have yet to call me back
I just wanted to contact you with some concers I have with the patriot 14 I am feeding. I am sure you are aware of everything floating around the internet. I talked to some people here at the ADM facility in Campbellsville, ky and of course was assured that there is no issues with the feed and was even told that the feed I buy came from the Bluffton, In plant which is monensin free, the way I understood him was they do not deal in cattle feeds but what I found on the internet seems to state it does. I lost a mare October 31, 2014 she went off her feed 5 days later she had colicky symptoms, liquid diarrhea and was eventually euthanized, the vet was out everyday treating her, bloodwork, ect.... we never came up with a definite answer to the cause. Now I have a 3 yr old that quit eating her feed for 3 days, has gone back to eating it but not finishing it, I have another gelding that did not finish his grain this morning and several act like they are choking when they eat, so you can see where I have several concerns with continuing to feed ADM. Any information you can provide me with my issues would be appreciated, they have been on this feed for a year |
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Location: Here | boldbonanzarocks - 2015-02-14 1:58 PM
I have read thru alot of this not all but I have fed ADM patriot 14 for about a year now and last week when I was at the feed ADM facility here in my town I talked to them about this issue and they blew it off and said the accusations were coming from a farm that they heard was in financial hardship, they also told me the patriot I purchase comes from there Bluffton, In facility which is a all horse feed facility which I found out thru a little googleing that is not true. Here is the Email I sent to them last week with my concerns, they did reply back wanting my number so someone could speak to me and they have yet to call me back
I just wanted to contact you with some concers I have with the patriot 14 I am feeding. I am sure you are aware of everything floating around the internet. I talked to some people here at the ADM facility in Campbellsville, ky and of course was assured that there is no issues with the feed and was even told that the feed I buy came from the Bluffton, In plant which is monensin free, the way I understood him was they do not deal in cattle feeds but what I found on the internet seems to state it does. I lost a mare October 31, 2014 she went off her feed 5 days later she had colicky symptoms, liquid diarrhea and was eventually euthanized, the vet was out everyday treating her, bloodwork, ect.... we never came up with a definite answer to the cause. Now I have a 3 yr old that quit eating her feed for 3 days, has gone back to eating it but not finishing it, I have another gelding that did not finish his grain this morning and several act like they are choking when they eat, so you can see where I have several concerns with continuing to feed ADM. Any information you can provide me with my issues would be appreciated, they have been on this feed for a year
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | boldbonanzarocks - 2015-02-14 1:58 PM
I have read thru alot of this not all but I have fed ADM patriot 14 for about a year now and last week when I was at the feed ADM facility here in my town I talked to them about this issue and they blew it off and said the accusations were coming from a farm that they heard was in financial hardship, they also told me the patriot I purchase comes from there Bluffton, In facility which is a all horse feed facility which I found out thru a little googleing that is not true. Here is the Email I sent to them last week with my concerns, they did reply back wanting my number so someone could speak to me and they have yet to call me back
I just wanted to contact you with some concers I have with the patriot 14 I am feeding. I am sure you are aware of everything floating around the internet. I talked to some people here at the ADM facility in Campbellsville, ky and of course was assured that there is no issues with the feed and was even told that the feed I buy came from the Bluffton, In plant which is monensin free, the way I understood him was they do not deal in cattle feeds but what I found on the internet seems to state it does. I lost a mare October 31, 2014 she went off her feed 5 days later she had colicky symptoms, liquid diarrhea and was eventually euthanized, the vet was out everyday treating her, bloodwork, ect.... we never came up with a definite answer to the cause. Now I have a 3 yr old that quit eating her feed for 3 days, has gone back to eating it but not finishing it, I have another gelding that did not finish his grain this morning and several act like they are choking when they eat, so you can see where I have several concerns with continuing to feed ADM. Any information you can provide me with my issues would be appreciated, they have been on this feed for a year
ADM is trying to cover their hiney big time. Of course they're going to blow it off. I was feeding Nutrena and found out they lied to me saying there was no medicated feed made at the same facility my SC came from. Doing a little research I found out they were jerking my chain. I won't support companies like that. My horses are way too important to me. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I am very sorry about your horses. Please realize I am certainly not in any financial hardship at all and everything I have presented is true. ADM does not care pure and simple. |
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| I initially thought my horses were choking also, very strange symptoms. The rep. from Hubbard was supposed to come yesterday or today for this sample and has not shown up or called. My vet sent off a sample for me yesterday. I think it's crazy that these companies think it is ok to be producing feed in the same plants as ones that contain ionophores. I emailed Hubbard and told them this, they said they flush the systems between batches, and out of 24,000 lbs of Senior feed my feed came from I am the "only" negative complaint.....Well, isn't ONE too many? Besides, how many have horses that colic and/or get sick that do not put two and two together that it is the grain? If I hadn't had two eating it and them both get sick and just recently switched to this grain, I would not have guessed it was the feed.
I lost a mare in 2013 that had been fed Hubbard on and off and really hope that's not what killed her. We could never figure out why she was sick on and off for several years. I wasn't feeding anyone else grain the same time I was her... |
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Location: Florida.. | Royal palm is not either in hardship.. the lab and vet and FDA have all confirmed.. Monosin poisoning and contaminated feed of theirs so I suggest to ADM to stop trying to cover up anything when there facts not opinions.. on the internet.. the hardship might have almost worked for the very first horse barn and adms excuses but it didnt so to place blame on their lack of "giving a ****" is way wrong.There has since been 4 barns and people with positive results and horse issues.. |
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Location: Florida.. | This isnt hearsay or opinions .. This has been proven thru labs and horses and bags of feed that tested positive.. many horses have fell Ill and have issues from this.. I would suggest to Jason hartley to talk to ADM because this isnt going away.. instead of denying they should be trying to find a solution.. its FACTS.. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | boldbonanzarocks - 2015-02-14 2:58 PM
 I have read thru alot of this not all but I have fed ADM patriot 14 for about a year now and last week when I was at the feed ADM facility here in my town I talked to them about this issue and they blew it off and said the accusations were coming from a farm that they heard was in financial hardship, they also told me the patriot I purchase comes from there Bluffton, In facility which is a all horse feed facility which I found out thru a little googleing that is not true. Here is the Email I sent to them last week with my concerns, they did reply back wanting my number so someone could speak to me and they have yet to call me back
I just wanted to contact you with some concers I have with the patriot 14 I am feeding. I am sure you are aware of everything floating around the internet. I talked to some people here at the ADM facility in Campbellsville, ky and of course was assured that there is no issues with the feed and was even told that the feed I buy came from the Bluffton, In plant which is monensin free, the way I understood him was they do not deal in cattle feeds but what I found on the internet seems to state it does. I lost a mare October 31, 2014 she went off her feed 5 days later she had colicky symptoms, liquid diarrhea and was eventually euthanized, the vet was out everyday treating her, bloodwork, ect.... we never came up with a definite answer to the cause. Now I have a 3 yr old that quit eating her feed for 3 days, has gone back to eating it but not finishing it, I have another gelding that did not finish his grain this morning and several act like they are choking when they eat, so you can see where I have several concerns with continuing to feed ADM. Any information you can provide me with my issues would be appreciated,  they have been on this feed for a year  Â
 What a nightmare. So sorry you are having to deal with this. For them to try to place blame on a farm in hardship through hearsay is ridiculous. You have enough horses get sick from bad feed and have needless vet bills because of a problem with feed and it would hurt your bottom line. Hope you get some answers and peace of mind. |
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Location: Here | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-14 4:27 PM
Royal palm is not either in hardship.. the lab and vet and FDA have all confirmed.. Monosin poisoning and contaminated feed of theirs so I suggest to ADM to stop trying to cover up anything when there facts not opinions.. on the internet.. the hardship might have almost worked for the very first horse barn and adms excuses but it didnt so to place blame on their lack of "giving a ****" is way wrong.There has since been 4 barns and people with positive results and horse issues..
That in all honesty is what made me switch If they won't recognize this and do the right thing but all the people that have confirmed it does exist in their feeds, is just wrong. I don't care if Jason things 2-5ppm is safe! It isn't. I would like to ask him, would you feed your poison... even only a tiny bit? To me it is the same thing |
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Location: Here | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-14 4:30 PM This isnt hearsay or opinions .. This has been proven thru labs and horses and bags of feed that tested positive.. many horses have fell Ill and have issues from this.. I would suggest to Jason hartley to talk to ADM because this isnt going away.. instead of denying they should be trying to find a solution.. its FACTS..
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Location: Here | The Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM) is an American global food-processing and commodities-trading corporation, headquartered in Chicago, Illinois.[2][3][4] The company operates more than 270 plants and 420 crop procurement facilities worldwide, where cereal grains and oilseeds are processed into products used in food, beverage, nutraceutical, industrial, and animal feed markets worldwide. On Sept. 24, 2013 ADM announced a planned mid 2014 move of its headquarters out of Decatur, and Chicago was announced as the new site for the world headquarters of the agricultural processing conglomerate.[5]
It was named the world's-most-admired food-production company by Fortune magazine for three consecutive years: 2009, 2010 and 2011.[6]
The company also provides agricultural storage and transportation services. The American River Transportation Company along with ADM Trucking, Inc., are subsidiaries of ADM. ADM's revenues for fiscal year 2012 were US$89 billion.[1] |
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| SG. - 2015-02-14 5:10 PM
 The Archer Daniels Midland Company ( ADM) is an American global food-processing and commodities-trading corporation, headquartered in Chicago, Illinois. [2][3][4] The company operates more than 270 plants and 420 crop procurement facilities worldwide, where cereal grains and oilseeds are processed into products used in food, beverage, nutraceutical, industrial, and animal feed markets worldwide. On Sept. 24, 2013 ADM announced a planned mid 2014 move of its headquarters out of Decatur, and Chicago was announced as the new site for the world headquarters of the agricultural processing conglomerate. [5]It was named the world's-most-admired food-production company by Fortune magazine for three consecutive years: 2009, 2010 and 2011. [6]The company also provides agricultural storage and transportation services. The American River Transportation Company along with ADM Trucking, Inc., are subsidiaries of ADM. ADM's revenues for fiscal year 2012 were US$89 billion. [1]
Sounds like ADM is a little to big for their britches. THe horse feed division is probably a drop in the bucket. Having said that, looks like it would not cost them much to build horse only feed mills. |
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Location: Arkansas | Just doesn't seem like the fine fits the crime does it?? |
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | I fed ADM at one point to my whole herd...different rations but all ADM... i had one horse get real sick...and overall they all just started to look dull and not hold weight well...one of the things that caught me off guard was the rep who I spoke to said i should buy their loose minerals to add some vit/minerals to the diet...well -when I pointed out that I was feeding the 14% patriot COMPLETE feed ...why would I need to add anything...they were on free choice grass and they all get alfalfa twice a day as well and had salt/mineral licks...they didn't have a good answer for me...that's when I switched feeds . ..any company that sells a complete feed shouldn't need to add any vitamins or minerals to it right!?! I fed it about 6 months total.. i was not impressed with how my horses looked nor happy after my horse got sick ...i never blamed ADM for my horses illness but maybe I should have...at the very least I can say what is on the label may not be what's in the bag and that was enough to lose my business... |
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| My mare colicked during the summer. The vet said it was not an impaction. We were up all night with her. Almost lost her. She was being fed ADM Patriot. I'm wondering now if it was because of the Patriot. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | readytorodeo - 2015-02-15 1:54 PM
 My mare colicked during the summer.  The vet said it was not an impaction.  We were up all night with her.  Almost lost her. She was being fed ADM Patriot.  I'm wondering now if it was because of the Patriot. Â
 So glad you did not lose your mare. It may have been the feed or may not have been. I do feel certain that people have had very sick horses and lost horses and had no idea it was from the feed. It would be easier to detect at a boarding stable/farm/ranch than for people who own one horse or a few who may not have put it together as far as feed being the problem. |
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