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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event....... not a winner take all 1 million. Since there is only 2 million or so to be had...... how can one event pay 1 million? Like I said I didn't look it over that well.
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
The way I understood it when I was watching the announcement was that there was 1 million dollars to pay out to the top ten, to be split. First place getting 100k.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet. |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:53 PM sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet.
I heard Ty say that but I was thinking that was just kind of horse trader talk. He also says Worldzz Championship too and that doesn't sound right either. LOL
Here it says they would put themselves in the pot for a share of the 1 million.
http://ftpcontent2.worldnow.com/rfdtv/the-american/completerules.pdf |
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| missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:53 PM sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet.
That is what I heard too but I went back and read the rules and it saids if a qualifier wins they will also win their "share of the other $1 million plus the $100k for first place. I think if only one qualifier wins he/she will get the whole thing- 2 win each get $500K, etc.
Boy, adds another element for making the top ten at the NFR.
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| rodeomom3 - 2013-08-23 7:58 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:53 PM sodapop - 2013-08-23 8:49 PM missroselee - 2013-08-23 7:46 PM Though I still think its kind of dumb to pay a qualifier one million more to win then a top ten, I think they have a good program. If I thought I had a horse good enough to beat the best I wouldn't hesitate to pay the fees to try to qualify. After all, there a million reasons why if I win I didn't look it over that well so isn't the other million to be divided among all those qualifiers who make it at their semi final?........... to pay all the places in each event.
But there was also another 1 million dollars that would be paid if one of the 5 qualifiers won the event instead of the top ten. So the qualifier would win 1.1 million. They said that several times during the announcment. I don't know if it was live or recorded. And I haven't read the official rules yet.
Boy, adds another element for making the top ten at the NFR.
That's the way I understand it too. Like I just posted it is kind of horse trader talk or just including all the possibilities to make it sound more interesting. |
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| The top 10 world contestants in each of the seven events – bareback riding, bronc riding, team roping, tie-down roping, barrel racing, steer wrestling and bull riding – will have a chance to claim a first-place prize of $100,000. If one of the competitors who advanced from any of the five qualifiers and then a semifinal held Feb. 21-23 at Mesquite Resistol Arena win their event at The American, then he or she will have a chance to claim as much as $1 million. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2013-08-23 8:01 PM The top 10 world contestants in each of the seven events – bareback riding, bronc riding, team roping, tie-down roping, barrel racing, steer wrestling and bull riding – will have a chance to claim a first-place prize of $100,000. If one of the competitors who advanced from any of the five qualifiers and then a semifinal held Feb. 21-23 at Mesquite Resistol Arena win their event at The American, then he or she will have a chance to claim as much as $1 million.
I'm assuming that means all the money possible including the semi finals and The American.... since this is a 2 million dollar rodeo........ Otherwise it would be a 7 million dollar rodeo for 7 events......... right? |
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| I take it to mean $2 million payout for the one day rodeo. They are billing it as the richest one day rodeo. I guess if no qualifier wins then producers keep the $1 million. I don't have a clue how the qualifying rounds pay, they may not pay anything. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | I think this is an awesome idea and the fact that I only live about 45 miles from Mesquite and about 70 miles from Cowboy stadium, I CAN'T WAIT to watch! |
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Location: SE Missouri | Definitely will be fun to watch all the events shake out! |
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Location: Texas | dhdqhllc - 2013-08-23 2:07 PM
Mainer-racer - 2013-08-23 8:49 AM Did you also hear about the "exceptions"? Something like they will "invite" certain barrel racers/competitors if they don't qualify? They mentioned Charmayne James could get an invite where she has such a huge fan base. They said...this rodeo is for the "fans" and they want to make sure they have competitors that the fans want to watch? I was confused on that too!
It will be very interesting to see how the finals play out and how they plan to fill the stadium. Big rodeo names are big in RODEO but don't extend much farther. I'm sure they'll take a nod from Houston since it can fill Reliant for 3 straight weeks. |
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Location: Texas | I don't know how much the tickets will be, but I think they will be in the range of $50-$80. So let's do some math:
75,000 seats x $50= $3,750,000.
75,000 seats x $80 =$6,000,000.
So a $2M purse, or even $2M added, is not a problem!
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Location: Kansas | 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
No wonder I stick to amatuer rodeos. I'm not enough of a high roller! $66 is about the highest entry fees I pay at the ammy stuff which granted doesn't usually have anywhere near $2000 added but still its a huge difference.
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot. 
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd. |
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Location: Checotah OK | If you have a good horse - it's worth the gamble! $500 is not high for everywhere it could get you....and what you could win - I don't think you can really compare it to any other event in the country, nor find a chance to compete for something like this for $500 (it's really 3 events for that fee) ..if you qualify.
Very exciting and glad to be producing the Barrel Bash (LINCOLN NE) that is a part of it!
Brings me back to one of my favorite quotes....If you are interested, you'll do what's convenient, if you're committed you'll do whatever it takes!
BEST OF LUCK TO EVERYONE - GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING!
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Location: IM A DUDE!!!!!!! | this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million
If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them. |
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Location: CO | tracies - 2013-08-24 6:58 AM I don't know how much the tickets will be, but I think they will be in the range of $50-$80. So let's do some math: 75,000 seats x $50= $3,750,000. 75,000 seats x $80 =$6,000,000. So a $2M purse, or even $2M added, is not a problem!
Let's not forget, that in addition to prize money, there will be stadium rent in Arlington, arena rent in Mesquite, utilities, staffing, advertsiing, insurance etc - and I can't even begin to imagine the total sum of these. Good chance the powers that be are prepared to either loose money or break even on this first event. Then next year, they take their numbers, demographics, stats, etc - and sponsors will come out of the woodwork. Who knows what we will see for next year. Either way, hats off to RFD-TV for thinking out of the box - I don't know who chose the locations for the quilifying events, but I do like that the barrel racing is pretty evenly distributed through-out the US - take a look at the bull riding - every qualifying event is out west, with the exception of one in TX. |
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Location: Deep South | sodapop - 2013-08-23 7:30 PM
3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:50 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch.  This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited. What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though!
This is why I'm so excited!!! Hopefully we get to see these guys competing against the top 10 WPRA girls. The best of BOTH worlds.  |
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