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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-08 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: Kidney failure


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We are going to get him now.
Keeping him on fluids at home.
Going to try to keep him eating and drinking.
Thanks for the prayers! Will keep you updated.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-10-08 10:43 AM
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Good deal.....keep your chin up and keep us posted!

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speedjunkie
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2013-10-08 11:23 AM
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Praying it all works out - sounds like he is a strong individual.
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-08 12:15 PM
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On 10/3 his urea nitrogen 91H
Creatine 11.7 H

On 10/4
Urea nitrogen 87 H
Creatine 11.8 H

On 10/5
Urea nitrogen 77
Creatine 11.4

On 10/7 WBC 10.19
Urea nitrogen 76
Creatine 10.8
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justcruzin
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-10-08 4:29 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-08 10:15 AM On 10/3 his urea nitrogen 91H Creatine 11.7 H On 10/4 Urea nitrogen 87 H Creatine 11.8 H On 10/5 Urea nitrogen 77 Creatine 11.4 On 10/7 WBC 10.19 Urea nitrogen 76 Creatine 10.8

Slow and steady, how are you running fluids at home? Are they living the cath in? Boy if you can get that down to 5.5, still high but have seen several live long lives with that level, keep us posted.
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-08 5:11 PM
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Yes, they left his cath in, put In a long term one, said it could last a month.
However I hope to not do fluids for more than a few days/week.
When do you stop? I don't know how to make the decision to draw the line.
He grazed for a hour. He had 1# of ADM senior glo. He drink 2 gallon of water. Ate some acculytes. And was eating grass hay. All within a 2 hour period.
Also urinated twice and pooped once.
He is bright. Alert. Loves the attention.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-10-08 5:18 PM
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you dont draw the line as long as he is alert and  seems to be ok.. id give fluids  at least another week and if levels  drop your on the right path. 
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-08 6:40 PM
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He has drank 5 gallon of water since 3pm! Is that good?
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justcruzin
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-10-08 6:41 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-08 4:40 PM He has drank 5 gallon of water since 3pm! Is that good?
 Normal amount for a average horse is 5-7 gl per day. Watch for any edema, legs, lower belly.

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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2013-10-08 6:42 PM
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I don't know, but I would rather have one drinking too much than not enough.  Hope its a good sign!   
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-08 7:40 PM
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He does have edema. They said to watch his breathing rate, listen for cough. But they did not seemed concerned. That was my biggest concern.
His sheath looks like it could explode, but he is still urinating fine..
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-10-08 7:42 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-08 6:40 PM

He has drank 5 gallon of water since 3pm! Is that good?

The thirst mechanism in the brain is a great regulator of hydration and volume status. If he is recovering from acute renal failure, then I would expect his urine output to rise and thirst would increase as well.
Look up "diuretic phase of acute renal failure" and you'll see that very often you see a marked increase in urine output. I think this might be a good sign.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-10-08 7:58 PM
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continued prayers for you both..
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-08 10:54 PM
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Do You think he can continue through the phase without fluids? By drinking enough, or will he need continued fluids? I'm imagining this being a case to case answer?
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-10-08 11:06 PM
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It sounds like he's drinking a lot, so if I'd have to guess, I'd say sit tight, especially with all that edema.
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-09 12:00 PM
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Morning update, first night at home! I slept in the trailer at the barn so I could get up and check on him regularly.

I took him out this morning. He was bucking and trying to run Around. He acted like he wanted to roll but then changed his mind. I think his belly
Is so full & his sheath, he is uncomfortable to lay down.
he was long trotting and tossing his head around the dry lot.
He is eating excellent, drinking good. Peeing & pooping. No temp.
How can I not get my hopes up when he acts like that?!
He is def still neurological. But I hope I have the opportunity to treat him for EPM if he recovers from this ??
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-10-09 12:08 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-09 12:00 PM Morning update, first night at home! I slept in the trailer at the barn so I could get up and check on him regularly. I took him out this morning. He was bucking and trying to run Around. He acted like he wanted to roll but then changed his mind. I think his belly Is so full & his sheath, he is uncomfortable to lay down. he was long trotting and tossing his head around the dry lot. He is eating excellent, drinking good. Peeing & pooping. No temp. How can I not get my hopes up when he acts like that?! He is def still neurological. But I hope I have the opportunity to treat him for EPM if he recovers from this ??

Edema doesn't worry me so much.  That's just God's "reserve tank".  If his vascular volume needs more fluids, it will get sucked out of the tissue and he will pee it out.
Stay the course.  He doesn't seem to be acting like a horse who wants to die.
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ACEINTHEHOLE
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2013-10-09 12:18 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-10-09 12:08 PM
Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-09 12:00 PM Morning update, first night at home! I slept in the trailer at the barn so I could get up and check on him regularly. I took him out this morning. He was bucking and trying to run Around. He acted like he wanted to roll but then changed his mind. I think his belly Is so full & his sheath, he is uncomfortable to lay down. he was long trotting and tossing his head around the dry lot. He is eating excellent, drinking good. Peeing & pooping. No temp. How can I not get my hopes up when he acts like that?! He is def still neurological. But I hope I have the opportunity to treat him for EPM if he recovers from this ??
Edema doesn't worry me so much.  That's just God's "reserve tank".  If his vascular volume needs more fluids, it will get sucked out of the tissue and he will pee it out.

Stay the course.  He doesn't seem to be acting like a horse who wants to die.

HotbearLVR--- you are such an inspiration!  Thanks so much for taking time out of your busy day to help with this situtation.  I know this isn't my horse, but I just love reading anything you write, an will follow threads to see what you have to say!  Thank you! 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-10-09 12:20 PM
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ACEINTHEHOLE - 2013-10-09 12:18 PM
HotbearLVR - 2013-10-09 12:08 PM
Thecowgirlinme - 2013-10-09 12:00 PM Morning update, first night at home! I slept in the trailer at the barn so I could get up and check on him regularly. I took him out this morning. He was bucking and trying to run Around. He acted like he wanted to roll but then changed his mind. I think his belly Is so full & his sheath, he is uncomfortable to lay down. he was long trotting and tossing his head around the dry lot. He is eating excellent, drinking good. Peeing & pooping. No temp. How can I not get my hopes up when he acts like that?! He is def still neurological. But I hope I have the opportunity to treat him for EPM if he recovers from this ??
Edema doesn't worry me so much.  That's just God's "reserve tank".  If his vascular volume needs more fluids, it will get sucked out of the tissue and he will pee it out.

Stay the course.  He doesn't seem to be acting like a horse who wants to die.
HotbearLVR--- you are such an inspiration!  Thanks so much for taking time out of your busy day to help with this situtation.  I know this isn't my horse, but I just love reading anything you write, an will follow threads to see what you have to say!  Thank you! 

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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2013-10-09 1:05 PM
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Amen. You've truly been an excellent motivator for me. I know there is nothing that says you have to chime in, and I can't thank you enough for contributing. Rayban says thanks too :)
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