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Location: Kentucky | I'll be the bad guy here. I wouldn't mind it being moved. I like Vegas, but I also like traveling and seeing different places. I wouldn't mind if the NFR was bid on like the Olympics, that way I can be moved. A lot of people use the NFR as a vacation, and I wouldn't mind seeing something different. | |
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Location: Florida | I remember when the finals moved to Las Vegas, for sure we thought it was a bad move. Rodeo is family oriented and they want to move to "Sin City"! You can't get more family oriented than Orlando/Kissimmee area. Lots of stuff for kids to do, great hotels, clubs, restaurants, and you can drive 30 minutes and go to the beach. Plus we have a huge international airport, rail service, and after it is over spectators can go on a cruise.
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| Why is entertaining other offers stupid? If you ask me, Vegas would be stupid not to increase their offer. December was a dead time in Vegas before the NFR came to town. Now December is probably their most successful month.
If Vegas wants to keep the cash cow that's been created, they should increase the offer. I would hate to see the NFR leave Vegas. But then again, the PRCA needs to go were the contestants can make the most money. | |
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Location: IOWA, still waiting on the short bus!! lol | I would like to see it go to TEXAS | |
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Location: WYOMING | All you non costal people would need to learn about flipflop sox and Mr Zoggs Sex Wax... | |
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Location: ND | Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us!
look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........ | |
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| dhdqhllc - 2013-12-16 8:07 AM Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us! look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........
I agree with you.. lost alot of respect for him this morning when he was so quick to dismiss the fans. What I want to know is what about the top people who are sponsored by MGM Grand and Mirage??? What kind of hit are they taking if NFR moves from Vegas? | |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | I still have a problem with the PRCA after they tried to take the barrel racing away from the WPRA and a certain barrel racer jumped on their band wagon. I lost a lot of respect for both. I go to Vegas almost every year, I attend 1 performance and the rest of the time see the sights, gamble and shop. I don't think I will go to Florida, so I guess next year will be my last NFR if they make this move. | |
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Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us!
look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........
You need to keep in mind that alot of people who go out to Vegas during the nfr just go out to party and never go to the rodeo. And think about the demographics of the people who do go to the rodeo, alot of those people don't drink or gamble. I think you would be surprised at the amount of those people who would be happy to see it moved outta sin city. And into a more family friendly city. Having said that I think the people who are going to actually attend the rodeo will still go. | |
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| yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-16 8:21 AM
dhdqhllc - 2013-12-16 8:07 AM
Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us!
look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........
You need to keep in mind that alot of people who go out to Vegas during the nfr just go out to party and never go to the rodeo. And think about the demographics of the people who do go to the rodeo, alot of those people don't drink or gamble. I think you would be surprised at the amount of those people who would be happy to see it moved outta sin city. And into a more family friendly city. Having said that I think the people who are going to actually attend the rodeo will still go.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you weren't a business major.
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I'd be very surprised if Vegas doesn't have a very attractive counter offer.
I don't kno......I thought that to. But go on the Internet and read about it. This thing has already progressed farther than what I would have thought. Honestly. It sounds like to me it's just formality of "signing the papers" now unless Las Vegas does something pretty quick. But your talking about a pretty big disparity in dollars. So I'm not sure they will pony it up. | |
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Location: NE Texas | bccanchaser16 - 2013-12-15 10:19 PM The only place that comes to mind is Cowboys Stadium in Dallas.
And the good Lord knows that place needs a serious pick me up after yesterdays performance! I say put Cody Ohl in at QB for the Cowboys and bring the NFR to Jerry's world! Let's get some REAL cowboys in that monstrosity! | |
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yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-16 8:21 AM
dhdqhllc - 2013-12-16 8:07 AM
Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us!
look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........
You need to keep in mind that alot of people who go out to Vegas during the nfr just go out to party and never go to the rodeo. And think about the demographics of the people who do go to the rodeo, alot of those people don't drink or gamble. I think you would be surprised at the amount of those people who would be happy to see it moved outta sin city. And into a more family friendly city. Having said that I think the people who are going to actually attend the rodeo will still go.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you weren't a business major.
I'll go out on another limb and bet money that I have owned/and ran more business than you ever have or will. Assuming that you have ever even owned one, which would be a big assumption, " Mr.Trump" lol | |
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Location: Florida.. | true about family atmosphere and there is night life .. just not rodeoy. but clubs galore.. daytime there is all the parks and universal and epcot and water parks etc.. its like a city inside a city.. youd never have to leave.. so good point.hotels are more costly much more .. from what it seems but worth it. | |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-16 6:21 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-16 8:07 AM Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us! look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........ You need to keep in mind that alot of people who go out to Vegas during the nfr just go out to party and never go to the rodeo. And think about the demographics of the people who do go to the rodeo, alot of those people don't drink or gamble. I think you would be surprised at the amount of those people who would be happy to see it moved outta sin city. And into a more family friendly city. Having said that I think the people who are going to actually attend the rodeo will still go.
With a 40% ticket increase? Plus the cost of the hotel being quite a bit more? Hum....... | |
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Location: stalking Gail... | bccanchaser16 - 2013-12-15 10:05 PM This is a tweet that was on my Twitter so I don't know if this has been confirmed or not: "under florida law livestock that come from Canada has to be quaratine for 3 months. That means the stock from the CES can't buck" That is gonna really suck for stock contractors like Calgary Stampede and Kesler.
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yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-16 6:21 AM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-16 8:07 AM Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us! look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........ You need to keep in mind that alot of people who go out to Vegas during the nfr just go out to party and never go to the rodeo. And think about the demographics of the people who do go to the rodeo, alot of those people don't drink or gamble. I think you would be surprised at the amount of those people who would be happy to see it moved outta sin city. And into a more family friendly city. Having said that I think the people who are going to actually attend the rodeo will still go.
Everyone keeps bringing up the 40 percent ticket increase. I believe this is misunderstood. I think LVE was saying to match the money Orlando is offering they would have to increase tickets that much IN las vegas. Not that tickets would cost more than the currently do, in Orlando. Plus the arenas in Orlando will have more seating to offset some of the costs. | |
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Location: Arizona | dhdqhllc - 2013-12-16 7:07 AM Rope-N-Run - 2013-12-16 1:44 AM Charley Crawford posted this to his Face book page, thought you guys might like to read it: Ok people, all the talk about the NFR is going crazy! We all stood up before a board the other day and asked them not to sign the 10 year contract that Las Vegas offered us while we have other multiple offers for a lot more money! This was agreed upon by every contestant in the top 15 at the NFR!! You can't be mad at the PRCA for finally standing behind us!! This is the first time we have all come together in an effort to make the sport better! I'm sorry if some of you feel like it might mess up your one fun week in Vegas, but this is something us cowboys and cowgirls work for our entire lives! We sacrifice time away from family, travel all year with no guaranteed pay, put more money back in from our own pockets all year than any other professional athletes do. Most of the guys getting to the finals come there with so much debt from the efforts of trying to get there that year that their biggest hope is to win enough to start the next year off at even! Sometimes in order to make things better you have to have a change! And remember moving the finals is not necessarily what the cowboys want, but if Vegas is not willing to come to the plate then we do have way better offers! And keep in mind, Vegas does have the opportunity to counter offer. So if we don't go back there, that on them not us! look, the pros at the top of the prca want to make more money and that is what the prca is about ......making money.......and honestly, after that condescending comment by charlie crawford about fan fun week, i think even less about the PRCA ...obviously rodeo fans don't fit into the equation any more......it's a fine move in the short term if they can generate more prize money but Kissimee is expecting the fans and income like showed up in vegas and hopefully more......a community can thorw all the money at an event that they want but if the return isn't what is expected, in 7 years they will be looking for somewhere else and vegas won't be there......PRCA is going to start to find out how the politics of professional sports works with this deal and they better bring in the money for the community or they will be out........starting to look no different than NFL, NBA, etc........
I totally agree!! Orlando can't do this for 30years...I doubt they can get a return fan base for 5 years. And who is going to suffer, not me, the fan, but the contestants..the purse prize will be less and less every year. Not a good move on the PRCA side! No fans, no rodeo!! | |
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Location: Deep South | This article answers some of ya'lls questions. Apparently the LVE is a non-profit organization, they are there to generate revenue for the city and the NFR generates a LOT.
http://twistedrodeo.com/2013/12/16/las-vegas-could-lose-a-great-thi...
Some of you are saying that you can't believe it's being moved to somewhere as NON-centrally located as FL (like Nevada is centrally located?). Well this board is predominantly people west of the MS river. There are a LOT of rodeo fans on the east of the MS who are thrilled about the possibility of it moving. My FB newsfeed is blown up with people talking about it.
Another thing, "The only thing Orlando has to offer is Disney" ???? That's like saying all Vegas has to offer is casinos. It's a stereotype. Vegas is very welcoming to the rodeo community and offers all those after shows that people love, and I'm sure that FL would too. FL has a nightlife with the clubs, but it also has a ton of family oriented things that Vegas is lacking. Some of you say you probably won't go if it moves, well they'll probably be drawing a new crowd anyway. Families that wouldn't take their little britches age kids before will now. | |
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