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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | Easy Otie Whiz. Reining bloodline but I don't think I'd touch one if one was given to me.
And I'll take all your Impressive horses that you don't want. The best horse I've ever swung a leg on as N/H. Would have I bought him knowing what I know now? Maybe. I just hate the stigma attached to them. I've ridden some nice Impressive grandget. |
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| jenijill - 2014-01-15 2:54 PM
peppy san badger  have had experiences with too many dirty buckers within that blood line
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My aunt has a few broodmares that she inherited from my grandfather when he passed away. They are all up in their high 20's now but they range from Zan Parr Bar, Gay Bar King, Freckles Playboy, Sugar Bars breeding. He had two mares that go back to Peppy San Badger(why, when most are all King and three bars breeding, i don't know) The Peppy san Badger mares, depending on who he bred them to, would through some rank one's 50% of the time. He'd laugh when it was time to hop on one because you never knew what you were going to get. |
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| halter_ego - 2014-01-15 1:08 PM No Impressive or Skipper W The first horse to run a sub 15 at the NBHA World Show in Augusta in the early days was Skipper Joe Three Bars (Skipper W)....one bad to the bone, moto-scooter! Won everything there was to win in the state of FL!
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Location: Mayberry | Hi won't go near a Shock em bred horse or Beaver Creek. Seen lots of both, every one of them had a nasty streak somewhere. |
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| Itsme - 2014-01-15 3:31 PM
FG,DTF...
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| jenijill - 2014-01-15 2:54 PM
peppy san badger  have had experiences with too many dirty buckers within that blood line
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I would have to agree with this. I have had more than few and all would buck the mares more so than the geldings. PSB is the only line I will walk away from. |
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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 3:33 PM Itsme - 2014-01-15 3:31 PM FG,DTF... Why?
She's being funny! |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-01-15 3:52 PM
FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 3:33 PM Itsme - 2014-01-15 3:31 PM FG,DTF... Why?
Oh, I thought maybe she knew something I didn't! |
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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 3:53 PM Whiteboy - 2014-01-15 3:52 PM FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 3:33 PM Itsme - 2014-01-15 3:31 PM FG,DTF... Why? Oh, I thought maybe she knew something I didn't!
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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-15 12:59 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-01-15 12:50 PM I stay away from anything Impressive b/c of the whole genetic HYPP issue. As a whole, it is harder on resale with them even with a n/n test result. Hancock ... of the 4 that I have owned 3 were buckers from the get go. The 4th, we never clicked. She was lazy as hell for me and when pushed or asked to "step up her game" she would refuse and we would "pick a fight" real quick. Skipper W - you either love or hate 'em. I have a good one right now but Lord knows I have delt with some real idiots from that line too. I'm actually really glad their are SO MANY horses and lines to choose from ... if you think about it, there are so many different riding abilities and types of riders that no one line of horse could possibly fit everyone. (JMO ) 
Good Point. Not a one was line bred.
Two of the buckers also had some driftwood in there. The cranky, lazy mare who would refuse and blow up into a fight also had peppy san badger on her, for the good or worse she sure was gorgeous.
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| runs4fun - 2014-01-15 3:23 PM
halter_ego - 2014-01-15 1:08 PM No Impressive or Skipper WÂ
The first horse to run a sub 15 at the NBHA World Show in Augusta in the early days was Skipper W Three Bars....one bad to the bone, moto-scooter! Won everything there was to win in the state of FL!Â
Interesting ... I think you either LOVE or HATE that line. |
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| This is going to sound stupid, but I won't ride anything "badly well-bred". The stupidest, ugliest horse that I have ever swung a leg over was mare that had FG and DTF on her face papers.. BUT she had had the brains bred right out of her.. She was the product of someone just trying to get names on the papers instead of breeding a nice horse (good studs, dinky mares).. The filly I have right now doesn't have the first big name on her papers anywhere, but she is insanely smart and athletic. The reason I chose to buy a horse like her was because I know the woman that bred her and know that she breeds for successful horses, not names on papers. Nothing against FG or DTF.. They have obviously proved themselves.. I just have a problem with greedy people. As it goes, you can't ride the papers. |
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| Mighty Broke - 2014-01-15 2:09 PM
Red3 - 2014-01-15 1:33 PM Three*C*Champs - 2014-01-15 1:14 PM Mighty Broke - 2014-01-15 10:06 AM mruggles - 2014-01-15 1:00 PM i dont have any that im dead set against.........i think sometimes ppl get a mind block, if you took away the papers and just had the horse.....you would get a different result..........Â
m I have absolutely loved every Beduino horse that I have had, good on trails, ATHLETIC, but it seemed once it was time to ask for that little extra---their mind couldn't handle it. Again, it was probably just that we did not click because I know a lot of people that have had great success with this line. I just hate spending all the time that it takes to get them to the final stage and then to realize it isn't working--so I stay away from them.Â
 I have an Ivory James, who obviously goes back to beduino lol. He is talented as heck but definitely takes a quiet hand and totally agree with the last bit of training they sometimes seem to take a few steps back. But he is definitely smart and once you figure out his quirks, he is pretty easy to handle 
I agree, that's why it doesn't bother me at all, because it isn't on the papers  I think it is awesome that your bringing the blood line in, they are sooooo talented!!! I think my horse has acquired most of his quirks through the track. I would love to see how he does as a dam's sire! |
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Location: North Dakota | I have had bad luck with Go Man Go or Top Deck bred horses, thats older blood lines. I have had good luck with Impressive bred horses. |
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Location: Great NW | Also will not own another with Go Benny Go on the papers. known a few and they are a bit "slow" minded. to the point you have to remind them what they learned the day before and if you gave them time off you had to spend a week showing them what they knew the last time you road them. ugh. I have horses now that you can give a year off - step on and ride off like you rode them yesterday. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | Dinky Red Man. They are athletic, fast, quick little suckers and very smart learners, but their minds are soooooo so sooo very fragile that they tend to come un-done. I realize they've won a ton up and down the east coast and at the AQHA World shows, but I owned one and she was the fastest, quickest horse I've ever ridden, but also the most mentally crazy. they are a dime a dozen around here and maybe 1 out of 10 can keep it together. I've watched a lot of them come un-done under the hands of many different riders. I know a lot of respectable people around here won't touch them with a ten foot pole. |
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| I must say...I am really glad that I never asked about bloodlines when I bought this filly. Double bred Beduino.... Go Man Go.... that dreaded Hancock.... all that's missing is Impressive.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/grc+quick+scrutiny
I did listen to BHW once and passed up a PYC Paint Your Wagon filly for $6,000 because everyone here said it was too much. She sold for $10,000, ran out about $13,000 on the track as a 2 year old and is now in the barrel pen. I learned my lesson on that one.
As for the Hancock haters... you do all realize that he was foaled in 1923? So that means that his bloodline is so diluted that there could easily be other horses more responsible for the broncy behaviour?
Or... let's face it, some horses are simply not meant for some people. Call it a personality clash or what have you. I believe bad horses , regardless of the bloodline, are few and far inbetween. But the Man Made nasty ones are a dime a dozen.
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Location: Nowhere Special | Theres really not a line I won't buy or try. Many of the ones listed so far I could tell horror stories about and could also tell great stories about, some were about the same horse! LOL I think certain people get alone with certain bloodlines better then others. I do tend to shy away from a few lines (impressive simply because of resale value, I have one standing in the pasture now that is the best looking athletic son of a gun you have ever seen) Peppy San Badgers and Hancock horses because they are known to buck, but I have owned both and some were great others well they bucked.
I try to buy "THE HORSE" then I look at the papers. I won't buy just pretty papers and I won't put my checkbook back in the truck because they are mutt bred to Jeff either.
One bloodline I have owned a LOT of and simply know they are not for me is the Sunfrost line. Now everyone jump up and down and tell me how great they are it won't do any good. Like I said I have owned a LOT of them, they are beautiful, have great resale and are always the last horse in the pasture I want to mess with. We just don't click.. I'll buy them all day long to resell but you won't catch me pulling one out of the pasture for my everyday mount. |
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Location: bring on the heat, NV | I tend to discriminate on a individual basis.. Peppy san makes me nervous if its up close we have two... one is young and bucked my hubby and his boot off lol. The gelding isnt as bad but you still have to watch him except that he LOVES our little boy never would of believed it if I hadnt seen time after time. |
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