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| Nevertooold - 2014-02-18 3:34 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-02-18 3:20 PM FYI from Rutgers reseach center: Vitamins are fat-soluble (vitamin A, D, E, and K), or water-soluble (vitamin C, and B-complex). Horses at maintenance usually have more than adequate amounts of vitamins in their diet if they are receiving fresh green forage and/or premixed rations. Some cases where a horse would need a vitamin supplement include when feeding a high-grain diet, or low-quality hay, if a horse is under stress (traveling, showing, racing, etc.), prolonged strenuous activity, or not eating well (sick, after surgery, etc.).
Most of the vitamins are found in green, leafy forages. Vitamin D is obtained from sunlight, so only horses that are stalled for 24 hours a day need a supplement with vitamin D. Vitamin E is found in fresh green forages, however, the amount decreases with plant maturity and is destroyed during long term storage. Horses that are under heavy exercise or under increased levels of stress also may benefit from vitamin E supplementation. Vitamin K and B-complex are produced by the gut microbes. Vitamin C is found in fresh vegetables and fruits, and produced naturally by the liver. None of these are usually required in a horse’s diet. Severely stressed horses, however, may benefit from B-complex and vitamin C supplements during the period of stress.
Minerals are required for maintenance of body structure, fluid balance in cells (electrolytes), nerve conduction, and muscle contraction. Only small amounts of the macro-minerals such as calcium, phosphorus, sodium, potassium, chloride, magnesium, and sulfur are needed daily.
Calcium and phosphorus are needed in a specific ratio ideally 2:1, but never less than 1:1. Alfalfa alone can exceed a Ca:P ratio of 6:1. Sweating depletes sodium, potassium, and chloride from the horse’s system, therefore, supplementation with electrolytes may be helpful for horses that sweat a lot. Normally, if adult horses are consuming fresh green pasture and/or a premixed ration, they will receive proper amounts of minerals in their diet, with the exception of sodium chloride (salt), which should always be available. Young horses may need added calcium, phosphorus, copper, and zinc during the first year or two of life.
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Location: Willows, CA | Don't hesitate to call and ask for a store near you to be set up. Renew Gold is basically available in just about every state, though many stores do not realize that they can get it. There are some places that are still holes, but a previous post was correct. If you live East of the Rocky Mountains, Renew Gold is distributed through Manna Pro, and any store that sells their products can get Renew Gold simply by putting in an order. West of the Rocky Mountains Renew Gold sells through several distributors. They are VSI, AFCO, KernCo, Bar Ale, and The Grange Coop. All have it in stock. If your store buys from any of these distributors, and most do, Renew Gold is just an order away. | |
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| winwillows - 2014-02-18 4:10 PM
Don't hesitate to call and ask for a store near you to be set up. Renew Gold is basically available in just about every state, though many stores do not realize that they can get it. There are some places that are still holes, but a previous post was correct. If you live East of the Rocky Mountains, Renew Gold is distributed through Manna Pro, and any store that sells their products can get Renew Gold simply by putting in an order. West of the Rocky Mountains Renew Gold sells through several distributors. They are VSI, AFCO, KernCo, Bar Ale, and The Grange Coop. All have it in stock. If your store buys from any of these distributors, and most do, Renew Gold is just an order away.
Seriously call!
I had looked for the product and none of the three feed stores in our area was carrying it. I called Phoenix and they did all the foot work to get it here.
The store that started carrying it only bought two bags in their original order, one for me and one for stock. They sold the stock bag within days of receiving it. They now keep it on the floor.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2014-02-18 4:00 PM Nevertooold - 2014-02-18 3:34 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-02-18 3:20 PM FYI from Rutgers reseach center:
Vitamins are fat-soluble (vitamin A, D, E, and K), or water-soluble (vitamin C, and B-complex). Horses at maintenance usually have more than adequate amounts of vitamins in their diet if they are receiving fresh green forage and/or premixed rations. Some cases where a horse would need a vitamin supplement include when feeding a high-grain diet, or low-quality hay, if a horse is under stress (traveling, showing, racing, etc.), prolonged strenuous activity, or not eating well (sick, after surgery, etc.).
Most of the vitamins are found in green, leafy forages. Vitamin D is obtained from sunlight, so only horses that are stalled for 24 hours a day need a supplement with vitamin D. Vitamin E is found in fresh green forages, however, the amount decreases with plant maturity and is destroyed during long term storage. Horses that are under heavy exercise or under increased levels of stress also may benefit from vitamin E supplementation. Vitamin K and B-complex are produced by the gut microbes. Vitamin C is found in fresh vegetables and fruits, and produced naturally by the liver. None of these are usually required in a horse’s diet. Severely stressed horses, however, may benefit from B-complex and vitamin C supplements during the period of stress.
Minerals are required for maintenance of body structure, fluid balance in cells (electrolytes), nerve conduction, and muscle contraction. Only small amounts of the macro-minerals such as calcium, phosphorus, sodium, potassium, chloride, magnesium, and sulfur are needed daily.
Calcium and phosphorus are needed in a specific ratio ideally 2:1, but never less than 1:1. Alfalfa alone can exceed a Ca:P ratio of 6:1. Sweating depletes sodium, potassium, and chloride from the horse’s system, therefore, supplementation with electrolytes may be helpful for horses that sweat a lot. Normally, if adult horses are consuming fresh green pasture and/or a premixed ration, they will receive proper amounts of minerals in their diet, with the exception of sodium chloride (salt), which should always be available. Young horses may need added calcium, phosphorus, copper, and zinc during the first year or two of life.
I agree but the key word is good forage. It has also been found that animals have trouble breaking down the vitamins that come from synthetic fertilizers. | |
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| Someone please ease my mind on this subject... My dad keeps telling me "your horses are gonna get skinny eating that stuff" cause he is used to them eating so much grain. They get a pound a day and 2 good sized flakes of coastal hay every day plus about 10 alfalfa cubes. I'm in college so my parents are feeding for me so at least that's the instructions I gave them. Someone please just reassure me that they aren't going to starve!!  | |
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Location: mi | Your horses should be getting everything they need from their hay if they are just standing around. Any grain you add after that is to help if they need extra energy due to work load, age, or having hay that might not have enough nutritional value to meet all of their requirements. So no horse should starve by decreasing their amount of grain if they are getting ample good hay. | |
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| Ive had my gelding on this product for about a year. I was having issues keeping weight on, I was hesitant like others on here only feeding 1 pound per day but it actually works. I feed 2 flakes of alf mix in the morning and at night plus RG and the results are amazing. His body condition score is where it needs to be, he doesnt get hot, and his coat is super shiny. Feeding less grain to get great results is awesome. | |
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Location: NC | So after reading all the posts is this feed more suited for hard keepers and nervous horses? I have two older, laid back, easy keepers. 1 is just the hubby's trail horse and the other is my barrel horse. We also have a 3.5 year old that seems to be a fairly easy keeper so far but want to make sure she is getting everything she needs to grow to her fullest potential...
Also they get free choice grass hay round bale.
Right now I feed Southern States Solution 14/6. I was just giving the oldies about half a 3 quart scoop am and pm unless the temperature dropped then would up it to a full scoop. I give the younger one a full scoop twice a day.
Would I be better just adding a supplement to the younger one and keep feeding what I am. OR Would RG be something beneficial? Or should I go with a Ration balancer like Nutrena Boost or Empower? Thanks | |
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Location: Midwest | I feed one pound of renew gold to my old guy who will be 21 in April along with purina senior twice a day. He gets alfalfa hay too. It's been a crazy winter by me and it's been two months since I've started renew gold and the SHINE on him and energy level is sky-high. He's been running around a lot more and just looks so great I am VERY PLEASED! I pay $30 a bag. It's at a tack store about 45 min away so I stocked up a bit but it's worth the drive and time! | |
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Location: Phoenix | Check your local feeds gores! Mine wasn't listed on the RG map, but my local feed store did carry it. | |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | So a bit confusing I see that people mix with other feeds and others feed alone. I thought it was not to be mixed like an additive?  | |
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| Mainer-racer - 2014-02-21 7:28 AM
So a bit confusing I see that people mix with other feeds and others feed alone. I thought it was not to be mixed like an additive?
I talked with the guy who works for them, he said if they are getting adequate forage then just the feed would be fine. If the forage is not good quality, then they can have other grain mixed in. He considered "good forage" what I was feeding, which is 2 flakes of coastal and alfalfa cubes. So it's just dependent on your situation! | |
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| achildres - 2014-02-21 9:13 AM
Mainer-racer - 2014-02-21 7:28 AM
So a bit confusing I see that people mix with other feeds and others feed alone. I thought it was not to be mixed like an additive?
I talked with the guy who works for them, he said if they are getting adequate forage then just the feed would be fine. If the forage is not good quality, then they can have other grain mixed in. He considered "good forage" what I was feeding, which is 2 flakes of coastal and alfalfa cubes. So it's just dependent on your situation!
I don't mix it with any other grains. I did however start to give it to my husband's head horse with Equine Saver. | |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | achildres - 2014-02-21 10:13 AM Mainer-racer - 2014-02-21 7:28 AM So a bit confusing I see that people mix with other feeds and others feed alone. I thought it was not to be mixed like an additive? I talked with the guy who works for them, he said if they are getting adequate forage then just the feed would be fine. If the forage is not good quality, then they can have other grain mixed in. He considered "good forage" what I was feeding, which is 2 flakes of coastal and alfalfa cubes. So it's just dependent on your situation!
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| The guy at me TSC emailed to see about getting it in for me. Was told only the Ca TSC stores can get it. UGHHHHH. Said he'd check into special ordering it, but i can't afford to feed it if the price doesn't stay around $30/bag. So frustrated because I'd really like to try it. | |
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Location: Wisconsin | If you are looking for it call Manna Pro! They will help you find a local dealer. Do not bother with TSC I tried very hard and was very frustrated until I called Manna Pro and they found a dealer 30 minutes from me. Not everyone is listed on the RG website or the Manna pro site. | |
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| Runninonthebuck - 2014-02-21 2:23 PM If you are looking for it call Manna Pro! They will help you find a local dealer. Do not bother with TSC I tried very hard and was very frustrated until I called Manna Pro and they found a dealer 30 minutes from me. Not everyone is listed on the RG website or the Manna pro site.
Will do. Thank you! | |
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| Mine only get a 1/2 pound each serving so he's getting a pound a day. He looks great !! | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | If you go to their website they have a printable coupon for one free bag for every ten bags that you buy....so that helps some. I really want to try it on a few of mine just to see. | |
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| achildres - 2014-02-16 11:28 AM Update; my horses have been on it a week. I know that this may seem a little far fetched to see results in only a week, but I started my 13 yo gelding on it to get him some more energy because he just lollygags in the arena. Well, we ran yesterday and man did that ol grandpa have some fire in him! It was nice to finally feel him run! I am in love with this product no doubt 
Glad your horse is feeling good and firing but 13 is not an old grandpa! 13 is Prime!!! | |
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