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Lickable I mean Likeable
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Location: De Berry, Tx | Â I think the term 2D in Texas Tough Competition is because it ran against true 1D horses not just a local jackpot somewhere else. You can go to a no name no money added and run against a true 1D horse here. You don't get lucky and win a "local" race. In other words if they are advertising a 2d in Texas tough Competition it means you can haul to any big show and it will be 2d, haul to some local stuff somewhere else and maybe 1d. Jmo A 2d horse here is still pretty dang tough. |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-18 1:59 PM kramerica - 2014-03-18 1:45 PM We all still want to know where It'sme is from.
You came on here with a bone to pick now let us know from what state you reside.
I'll start-I'm from Texas
Now you, It'sme.  
Way too tough down here for 'It' to survive.....
'It" is awesome at running down others, but doesn't seem to have any credentials to post about.. Nor does "It" want to disclose where "It" lives. My money is beginning to be on someone that can't hit the 5D on a fan-tab-u-lous day! |
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| I want to go to Texas I would love to get a chance to run with the big dogs. We have some double tough horses up here who would probably run 1D anywhere but not nearly as many. I don't mind getting beat that is how you see how you measure up. I have horses to prove and people will think a lot more of them if they can run in Texas. Maybe I can finally get out of the snow country and come play in the winter. |
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| I'm from Minnesota... but facebook test says I belong in Texas! 
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 Roan On The Range
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Location: Stephenville, TX | "It" is just jealous becasue it doesn't live in Texas, but wishes it did. 
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | MS2011 - 2014-03-18 7:53 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-18 1:59 PM kramerica - 2014-03-18 1:45 PM We all still want to know where It'sme is from.
You came on here with a bone to pick now let us know from what state you reside.
I'll start-I'm from Texas
Now you, It'sme.
'It" is awesome at running down others, but doesn't seem to have any credentials to post about.. Nor does "It" want to disclose where "It" lives. My money is beginning to be on someone that can't hit the 5D on a fan-tab-u-lous day!
I see that you got a dislike on this post so It dont like to be pointed out, It got It's feelings hurt, lol |
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A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Running Roan - 2014-03-18 11:16 PM "It" is just jealous becasue it doesn't live in Texas, but wishes it did.
Ha ha ha ha ha you got a dislike too, now thats funny, I'll be getting some dislikes to...  |
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Roan On The Range
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Location: Stephenville, TX | Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-18 11:31 PM Running Roan - 2014-03-18 11:16 PM "It" is just jealous becasue it doesn't live in Texas, but wishes it did.
The dislike was probably from a non-Texan |
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Location: Over by those oil wells, TX | carlos - 2014-03-18 9:12 AM
Itsme - 2014-03-17 1:56 PM Where were they at D&D this weekend? All these crazy fast Texas open horses being outran by colts. Im seeing a lot of bark and not much bite...
 What most people fail to understand is that young horse/ futurity horse that is outrunning the open horse has never had injuries and have youth on their side.  The open horse has learned to take care of their bodies and will slow down a tad.  Especially rodeo horses.  Futurity horses have that little extra umph when theyve never experienced pain in an injury.  The % of those futurity horses to stay tough and fast decreses as they get older. Â
Older horses and older women...more experience and more caution...gotta love the similarities. lol! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | hopin4$ - 2014-03-19 3:54 AM
carlos - 2014-03-18 9:12 AM
Itsme - 2014-03-17 1:56 PM Where were they at D&D this weekend? All these crazy fast Texas open horses being outran by colts. Im seeing a lot of bark and not much bite...
 What most people fail to understand is that young horse/ futurity horse that is outrunning the open horse has never had injuries and have youth on their side.  The open horse has learned to take care of their bodies and will slow down a tad.  Especially rodeo horses.  Futurity horses have that little extra umph when theyve never experienced pain in an injury.  The % of those futurity horses to stay tough and fast decreses as they get older. Â
Older horses and older women...more experience and more caution...gotta love the similarities. lol!
WAIT!! I thought that was younger women and older whiskey.... Now I'm all confuzzled.. |
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Location: Over by those oil wells, TX | komet. - 2014-03-19 4:41 AM
hopin4$ - 2014-03-19 3:54 AM
carlos - 2014-03-18 9:12 AM
Itsme - 2014-03-17 1:56 PM Where were they at D&D this weekend? All these crazy fast Texas open horses being outran by colts. Im seeing a lot of bark and not much bite...
 What most people fail to understand is that young horse/ futurity horse that is outrunning the open horse has never had injuries and have youth on their side.  The open horse has learned to take care of their bodies and will slow down a tad.  Especially rodeo horses.  Futurity horses have that little extra umph when theyve never experienced pain in an injury.  The % of those futurity horses to stay tough and fast decreses as they get older. Â
Older horses and older women...more experience and more caution...gotta love the similarities. lol!
WAIT!! I thought that was younger women and older whiskey.... Now I'm all confuzzled..
 lol! Good song, but don't sell us short, Komet. Older women on fast horses can and do still make some hearts go pitter patter in a good way! |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | Two observations I will make on this post:
1-I think there is tough competition everywhere in the US, not just Texas. And I would be real curious to see some of the 1D riders out here in Texas go up against some of the best in other parts of the country and vice versa. For instance, outside of rodeo, there are a LOT if not most of the arenas in California are large outdoor pens. Most pens here in Texas are small, indoor pens. A case could get made that horses grow accustomed to certain types of pens. Not saying a 1D horse can't be a 1D horse everywhere but circumstances could be different.
Next, the thing that I think differentiates the competition here is the sheer number of people that enter. As one poster says, you may have 1D riders in your area but how many times do you see 15 girls in the 1D consistently, and more in the 2D? Yes, there are still a lot of 3D+ people (me currently being in that category) but the sheer amount of solid, fast horses in the barrel world here in Texas that come out consistently all year round I don't think is really matched anywhere else.
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| I am from NY, I know gasp lol . Was visiting family in Texas and went to the D&D open Sunday to watch!I l First off, I must say what a beautiful facility and well run show and lots of great horses and riders! My take is that there are fast horses all over this country! I wasn't sure how I would place if moving down here but I felt more confident and realistic that I may not be in the 1d but I know I can place in the 2 and 3d down here! Texas horses are faster I feel because they are kept in shape due to better weather being kept in shape year round and have more jobs more than just being a barrel horse. Your also competing against well known tough accomplished riders and horses! I really loved Texas and to be honest, quite jealous lol |
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 Queen Bee Cat Owner
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Location: Way up North | Great horses come from all over! You do have to admit, considering the fact a lot of northern horses stand in a snow bank in 40 below weather for half the year, most don't have indoors to ride in, we have to haul twice as far to get to any race and we get half as many of them; the northerners still manage to turn out some nice horses. No we don't have the number of NFR competitors TX does but there are also a lot more rodeos down there for people to compete at and qualify. It has to be tough for people to haul 1200 miles one way to rodeo all winter down there especially until they get established. Either way kudos to the BA TX ponies and kudos to the BA ponies in all the other states that can hang with anyone! |
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| You hens still cluckin bout this?
Its easy, your super hero 1D/NFR girls run +0r- a tenth here just like they do down in texas, which means the Ds are the same. PERIOD.
Oh yeah, no vote down from me. |
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Roan On The Range
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Location: Stephenville, TX | Itsme - 2014-03-20 9:44 PM You hens still cluckin bout this? Its easy, your super hero 1D/NFR girls run +0r- a tenth here just like they do down in texas, which means the Ds are the same. PERIOD. Oh yeah, no vote down from me.
This is how you feel, but you still started this thread? Well, bless your heart...
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Veteran
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Location: Central TX | Had a teenage girl come down from Montana to spend a few months riding horses for me/ taking her to rodeos. She bought her horse out of Idaho, paid 60k for it. won everything up in id/mt/wy and came down here and was 2d and sometimes 3d'd....proofs in the pudding. yes theres good horses EVERYWHERE. but because so many pro girls live down here, the competition is more tough. It would be the same if every pro girl for example lived in i dont know...nevada or something...all of the tough competition would be in nevada. I don't see why y'all r getting your panties in a wad. |
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 Lone Wolf in my pack of One
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Location: North Texas | Â I've looked into this pretty extensively actually. And it is not that Texas horses are better or faster its that there are more fast horses at a single race. Pull up WPRA rodeo results... Last year at Big Springs a 16.87 won the rodeo and 13th place was a 17.0...5At a rodeo up north first place was a 15.7 and 10th was a 16.5. There is far less room for err in a Texas or even Southern jackpot because the sheer quantity of nice horses far exceeds that of up north. Its not that a northern horse isn't competitive with a southern horse, but rather there are more nice horses to complete against. Its a quantity issue not a quality issue. |
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Lone Wolf in my pack of One
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Location: North Texas | Â I'm on my phone so excuse the typos, but thought I would also add....its not always the horse that is the issue. When a rider take months off from riding they lose just as much of an edge as their mount. I'm able to ride year round without much hassle because cold here is still bearable riding westher,where a Yankee isn't gonna have the same opportunity due to weather misfortune |
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