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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-04-03 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: EHV-1and Bonus Race Finals


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Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM
ridejg - 2014-04-03 9:12 AM
ThreeCorners - 2014-04-01 8:57 PM We went through this in the west a couple years ago. Nobody really had to make decisions on whether to go or not go because all the producers were RESPONSABLE and cancelled everything untill it was clear. If it was me, I wouldnt take my horse anywhere if I was in the hot zone untill it was a 30 day clear. Just as we did before. No horses went anywhere and we all got it nipped really quickly.  I guess you have to put the "But I was really excited to go" aside and ask yourself, if it's really worth the risk. It never is to me. I cant afford to pay huge vet bills all the time so I do what I can to minimize my risks and my horses are worth more then one or 2 barrel races. I leaned years ago there is ALWAYS another barrel race and if it's a special once a year race, well, it will be back next year.
I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.

most cattle events were cancelled.
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stayceem
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Posted 2014-04-03 10:21 PM
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linds - 2014-04-03 12:04 PM

Update today, I wish everyone in MN would take this seriously but unfortunately they are not...
 
 

EHV-1 UPDATE 4/3/14:
A horse in Wright County developed neurologic signs on 3/29 and was tested. A positive diagnosis was received this morning. All horses on this farm were tested to screen them for EHV-1. Of those tested additional horses came back positive for shedding the virus but they are not showing neurologic signs at this time. Those horses that are screened but not showing neurologic signs will be retested again in 3 weeks to determine shedding status.
This facility is taking this very seriously; they are in tight lock-down and are dressing in and dressing out when entering the barn etc. They have a very good quarantine protocol in place.

To help with the understanding of “shedding” and what that means: EHV-1 non-neurologic form transfers via the respiratory system/breathing basically via air in closer proximity and on humans meaning on boots, barn equipment, clothing, etc. Of the horses that are positive shedders 25% will be neurologic and 75% will not, they will just shed. If one of those horses sheds to a new horse the same thing holds…25% of the new horses will be neurologic and 75% will not.

We start the 2 week no travel again today, which is April 3rd. Meaning if there are NO more positive cases we are looking at April 17th. The only way to eliminate this virus is for everyone to keep their horses at home. Do not haul to and from trainers, lessons, shows, sales. Do not bring home new horses. Do not go to a horse event or barn without changing all your clothes, disinfecting your boots/hands etc.

PLEASE NOTE: WE WOULD APPRECIATE ALL QUESTIONS BE DIRECTED TO [email protected]. WE WOULD LIKE OUR PHONE LINES CLEAR FOR EMERGENCY CALLS AND NON-VIRUS ISSUES. WE INTEND FOR THIS TO BE INFORMATIONAL AND ASK THAT IT DOES NOT BECOME A DISCUSSION FORUM. THANKS SO MUCH.

 

I also wish people and producers would take this seriously. For the poster staying we're "bashing" ... We just have seen the effects it can have but if you're so confident in your decision, you wouldn't care what we think.

This is still very much active and is going to continue to infect others until we make the sacrifice and stop hauling. Let it run is course.
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-04-04 8:57 AM
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kwanatha - 2014-04-03 6:31 PM
Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM
ridejg - 2014-04-03 9:12 AM
ThreeCorners - 2014-04-01 8:57 PM We went through this in the west a couple years ago. Nobody really had to make decisions on whether to go or not go because all the producers were RESPONSABLE and cancelled everything untill it was clear. If it was me, I wouldnt take my horse anywhere if I was in the hot zone untill it was a 30 day clear. Just as we did before. No horses went anywhere and we all got it nipped really quickly.  I guess you have to put the "But I was really excited to go" aside and ask yourself, if it's really worth the risk. It never is to me. I cant afford to pay huge vet bills all the time so I do what I can to minimize my risks and my horses are worth more then one or 2 barrel races. I leaned years ago there is ALWAYS another barrel race and if it's a special once a year race, well, it will be back next year.
I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.
most cattle events were cancelled.

Most all barrel races were cancelled also, and there were some BIG ones scheduled  that were cancelled. We went no where and even the trainer we had colts with didnt let any horses in or out for that month. We all battened down the hatches and got it nipped quicky after the initial blow-up.  You may have rodeo'd as they are set up more for the spectator anyway but nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled.
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jlm65
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2014-04-04 12:49 PM
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Topline Equine Vetrinary Care just posted, as of today 4/4/2014:
"There are pending cases in St. Croix county.
We are urging people to stay home with your horses."
 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-04 1:05 PM
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Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  
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Thecowgirlinme
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2014-04-04 1:05 PM
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How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms?
I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-04-04 1:51 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  

no comment   IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help...  I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out.  I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take.  I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize.  That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
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AllAroundRider
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2014-04-04 1:53 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  

I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?

Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.  
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-04 1:55 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  
I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?



Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.  

My horses haven't left my place since November either.  
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-04-04 1:55 PM
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i'm more interested in whether or not the timing of these outbreaks will affect the season in which event producers choose to have their events....
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-04-04 1:56 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  
I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?



Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.  
My horses haven't left my place since November either.  

i'd have to ask them if they've left or not......the only one that i'm sure comes and goes at will is Spotsie, the pony..... 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-04 2:00 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  
I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?



Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.  
My horses haven't left my place since November either.  
i'd have to ask them if they've left or not......the only one that i'm sure comes and goes at will is Spotsie, the pony..... 

Bad Spotsie 
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Haulin@$$
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-04 2:08 PM
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kwanatha - 2014-04-03 6:31 PM
Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM
ridejg - 2014-04-03 9:12 AM
ThreeCorners - 2014-04-01 8:57 PM We went through this in the west a couple years ago. Nobody really had to make decisions on whether to go or not go because all the producers were RESPONSABLE and cancelled everything untill it was clear. If it was me, I wouldnt take my horse anywhere if I was in the hot zone untill it was a 30 day clear. Just as we did before. No horses went anywhere and we all got it nipped really quickly.  I guess you have to put the "But I was really excited to go" aside and ask yourself, if it's really worth the risk. It never is to me. I cant afford to pay huge vet bills all the time so I do what I can to minimize my risks and my horses are worth more then one or 2 barrel races. I leaned years ago there is ALWAYS another barrel race and if it's a special once a year race, well, it will be back next year.
I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.
most cattle events were cancelled.

Most all barrel races were cancelled also, and there were some BIG ones scheduled  that were cancelled. We went no where and even the trainer we had colts with didnt let any horses in or out for that month. We all battened down the hatches and got it nipped quicky after the initial blow-up.  You may have rodeo'd as they are set up more for the spectator anyway but nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled.

Again, incorrect. I realize that there were quite a few events that were cancelled, but to say that "nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled" is patently false. Quite a few went on during this time period. I know, as I went to several. I really don't have a dog in this fight (midwest), and hope that if people go they do take some precautions. Just stating the facts of what we experienced out west. Some events got cancelled, some went on, and no one got sick from any of the events that I went to. Do what you will with that info.
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brlracerchick
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Posted 2014-04-04 2:36 PM
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linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  
no comment   IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help...  I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out.  I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take.  I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize.  That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.

Health certificates are required.  
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-04-04 2:41 PM
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linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.  
no comment   IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help...  I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out.  I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take.  I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize.  That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
Health certificates are required.  
I know, but 30 day health certs.  The event here in MN is requiring 7 day health certs on both in and out of state horses.

Edited by linds 2014-04-04 2:42 PM
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rockinas
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Posted 2014-04-04 3:08 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?

Some horses are shedders for life. 
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linds
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Posted 2014-04-04 3:19 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?
Some horses are shedders for life. 

They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time.  Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time.  They can shed for periods of 7-10 days.
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Posted 2014-04-04 3:25 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?
Some horses are shedders for life. 
They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time.  Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time.  They can shed for periods of 7-10 days.

And they have said that 99% of horses have already contracted EHV in their lifetimes.  So almost all horses already are carriers, but most of the time, they don't shed or have a re-lapse.

Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus.  Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life.  Some have a re-lapse, some don't.   
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CYA Ranch
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Posted 2014-04-04 4:23 PM
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Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?
Some horses are shedders for life. 
They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time.  Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time.  They can shed for periods of 7-10 days.
And they have said that 99% of horses have already contracted EHV in their lifetimes.  So almost all horses already are carriers, but most of the time, they don't shed or have a re-lapse.



Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus.  Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life.  Some have a re-lapse, some don't.   

Do you have a fungus? 
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CYA Ranch
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Posted 2014-04-04 4:26 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:23 PM
Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM
linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM
rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM
Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?
Some horses are shedders for life. 
They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time.  Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time.  They can shed for periods of 7-10 days.
And they have said that 99% of horses have already contracted EHV in their lifetimes.  So almost all horses already are carriers, but most of the time, they don't shed or have a re-lapse.



Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus.  Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life.  Some have a re-lapse, some don't.   
Do you have a fungus? 

or possibly a blue 5 star? 
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