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Location: So. California | Slick By Design
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM
I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind.
hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration.
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM
I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind.
hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration.
Good reasoning, Ty
They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years.
Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL |
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| I'd like to ad another one to the ones to watch list with CEO. Danny Ray is no fool and this stud has very few foals and even fewer that have got into the right hands. But being bred to these better mares and marketing from Danny Ray he will probably be a good one to invest a breeding into! |
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Location: Texas | And just so no one thinks I'm ASOF hating...I love him and want to breed some mares to him. And I didn't think he even qualified as a "next big sire" as he's already been there. Just like BJO- he's been there too. I want one of his babies too <3 <3 |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
Really?? He was a running horse that I was around and called a friend of mine as I was leading him down that track that day and said "I have a colored up stud in my hands right now, out of a great mare- they want to sell" He never stood until he sold shortly after and best I know he was always aimed as a barrel sire.
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. 
Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era. |
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Location: Texas | TurnLane - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era.
Pyc In my opinion is too high for the average barrel breeders to justify breeding to him. But I see lots of people picking them up as 2 and 3 year olds at heritage place.
Ivory James if he stays at 4000 isn't too high yet in my opinion but if they raise him too it'll be the same where I predict more people claiming them or buying them post racing career.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 8:33 AM
TurnLane - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era.
Pyc In my opinion is too high for the average barrel breeders to justify breeding to him. But I see lots of people picking them up as 2 and 3 year olds at heritage place.
Ivory James if he stays at 4000 isn't too high yet in my opinion but if they raise him too it'll be the same where I predict more people claiming them or buying them post racing career.
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Location: Texas | ndiehl - 2014-06-06 8:36 AM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 8:33 AM
TurnLane - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era.
Pyc In my opinion is too high for the average barrel breeders to justify breeding to him. But I see lots of people picking them up as 2 and 3 year olds at heritage place.
Ivory James if he stays at 4000 isn't too high yet in my opinion but if they raise him too it'll be the same where I predict more people claiming them or buying them post racing career.
Yup yup. I also agree.
Which is fine by me because that's how I got my shazoom and my stoli! And my Strawflyin buds didn't have a stellar race career either. Give me race horse flunkies any day!! |
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Location: tennessee | Slick By Design.They already have 120 + mares in foal to him.Most of the big name winning mares have been bred to him this year.The only other stud used for barrel racing that i know of that has had that big of a book is Dash Ta Fame,numbers of foals help get the studs on the leader board. Slick By Design is a outstanding horse in his own right and is out promoting himself every day. If he sires the working abilty he has got he will be the next leading sire.If the foals take after there mothers with the high class mothers he has bred,he will be the leading sire. Seems like a win,win on his part. |
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Location: Northeast SD | I'm thinking A Smooth Guy will be producing some awesome futurity colts in the near future. Lots of them in good hands already |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | There are very few studs that I think of as SIRES. Lots of sperm donors and lots more that should be geldings. With saying that, I really think BJO will be just as big as DTF. He is a sire. He is throwing himself and crossing well on different mares. I will admit, I was a doubter myself but now I have him booked next year already plus a mare in foal to him now (Fingers crossed). I really think he will get bigger even tho he is already hot. I bet his stud fee jumps again. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol. |
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Location: NE Texas | LRQHS - 2014-06-06 10:39 AM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol.
And you didn't forward?!?!?! Shame on you!!!! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-06-06 10:56 AM LRQHS - 2014-06-06 10:39 AM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol.
Let me see if I can. This new Walmart phone is a huge piece of crap. I'll try :) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2014-06-06 11:00 AM Herbie - 2014-06-06 10:56 AM LRQHS - 2014-06-06 10:39 AM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I think Firewater Finale will be in a couple of years. Amy has bred him to some super super mares. Her winning daughters of DTF and Tres Seis and many others. They are so trainable and I have heard they are in some top hands as well. It just takes so many years for a sire (who competed himself) to have his own offspring old enough to start to compete. |
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| Although I'd consider him a proven sire, Chasin Firewater. He's had some awesome mares bred to him and babies that are in very capable hands. |
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