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Posted 2014-07-08 2:24 PM
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For those that want some info on WHAT an Assault Rifle is or is not
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assault_rifles 
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I remember back in the 90s when there was a lot of "anti-SUV" sentiment in liberal land, and hence in the media.  They tried to portray SUVs as evil gas guzzling polluters and symbols of wealth and greed.  Whenever there was a traffic accident involving an SUV, especially one in which there was a fatality, the media would describe an accident, for example, by saying something like "two people were killed in an accident by an SUV....."   I'm not kidding you.  They felt this would shift public opinion in a direction where SUVs would be despised and shunned and consequently become non existent.  They tried to convince people that the evil SUVs had a mind of their own, like "HAL" in "Space Odessy 2001".  
They are doing the same thing with guns....suggesting if we eliminate guns, the killings in our cities would drop drastically, like in Chicago, for example.
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-07-08 2:29 PM
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LRQHS - 2014-07-07 12:09 PM I wish I had an assault weapon..... 
Me too! The closest we have is a semi-auto AR-15. Its sweet, we took lace stockings and spray painted over the gun to create a kick ass "camo" type color. We shoot a heck of a lot of varmits and coyotes with it! :) I wonder if mr O would send me one too!??!?

Glad to see that someone understands that an AR15 is not an assault weapon. 

What do you mean TXBO?!?! Everything the liberals say isn't true?!?!?!

Woops, spilled some sarcasm on the floor there....

BAHAHAHAAHA ... ya mean just because I have cool grips, a neat paint job, and a suppressor on my AR it's not an assault rifle!!!?????!??!?! GASP!!!

My sarcasm spilled too ;) *high fives*
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-07-08 2:32 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-07-08 2:29 PM

I remember back in the 90s when there was a lot of "anti-SUV" sentiment in liberal land, and hence in the media.  They tried to portray SUVs as evil gas guzzling polluters and symbols of wealth and greed.  Whenever there was a traffic accident involving an SUV, especially one in which there was a fatality, the media would describe an accident, for example, by saying something like "two people were killed in an accident by an SUV....."   I'm not kidding you.  They felt this would shift public opinion in a direction where SUVs would be despised and shunned and consequently become non existent.  They tried to convince people that the evil SUVs had a mind of their own, like "HAL" in "Space Odessy 2001".  
They are doing the same thing with guns....suggesting if we eliminate guns, the killings in our cities would drop drastically, like in Chicago, for example.

SNAP! you brought up Chicago ... that one sure hasn't turned out real well ... and to think that our current Pres is from there. Apparently when you make more laws, things don't always go as planned.


I remember the 90s SUV reports ... wasn't that the era of exploding Ford Explorers too? Or am I thinking of the wrong decade ... Pretty sure I was still on the west coast then and it was/still is full of tree huggers who don't bother to educate themselves on all sides of an issue.
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-08 2:39 PM
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Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 

Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.

The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.
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Posted 2014-07-08 2:54 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM    The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.

Soooo...You wouldn't recomend hitting Cicero with the boys after a ballgame?
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TXBO - 2014-07-08 2:54 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM    The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.
Soooo...You wouldn't recomend hitting Cicero with the boys after a ballgame?

Ha, I'd say stick to wrigleyville....  
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Posted 2014-07-08 2:57 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:56 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM    The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.
Soooo...You wouldn't recomend hitting Cicero with the boys after a ballgame?
Ha, I'd say stick to wrigleyville....  

LOL.  That's a different kind of fun. 
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-07-08 2:58 PM
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TXBO - 2014-07-08 2:57 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:56 PM
TXBO - 2014-07-08 2:54 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM    The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.
Soooo...You wouldn't recomend hitting Cicero with the boys after a ballgame?
Ha, I'd say stick to wrigleyville....  
LOL.  That's a different kind of fun. 

Truth! 
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-07-08 4:22 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM

Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 

Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.

The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.

PREACH :) I agree 100%. Laws don't do anything unless you have infrastructure, funding, and police to support them along with an economy that can or will support the growth and change. I agree that poverty and criminal actions go hand in hand. They have since history has been recorded.

I'm not trying to say that crime doesn't happen in "better" communities but that there is a strong correlation between crime and the amount of money household's bring home.
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-07-08 4:44 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM

Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 

Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.

The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.

PREACH :) I agree 100%. Laws don't do anything unless you have infrastructure, funding, and police to support them along with an economy that can or will support the growth and change. I agree that poverty and criminal actions go hand in hand. They have since history has been recorded.

I'm not trying to say that crime doesn't happen in "better" communities but that there is a strong correlation between crime and the amount of money household's bring home.

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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-07-08 6:51 PM
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lindseylou2290 - 2014-07-08 4:22 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 2:39 PM Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 



Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.



The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.
PREACH :) I agree 100%. Laws don't do anything unless you have infrastructure, funding, and police to support them along with an economy that can or will support the growth and change. I agree that poverty and criminal actions go hand in hand. They have since history has been recorded. I'm not trying to say that crime doesn't happen in "better" communities but that there is a strong correlation between crime and the amount of money household's bring home.

The Dems created many of the ghetto's in Chicago through welfare. When they needed more room for building they flattened Cabrini Green and dispersed about 4,000 of Chicago's problems Throughout Illinois. Chicago's crime rate went down for a short time and it grew around towns in other parts of Illinois. Most of those dispersed have been replenished since having illegitimate babies are rewarded and is a way of life with welfare people and the cycle continues. 
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Posted 2014-07-08 7:52 PM
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 Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......
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Posted 2014-07-08 9:16 PM
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musikmaker - 2014-07-07 11:13 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-07-07 12:07 PM "We're sending assault weapons to rebels in Syria to confront a regime that does not represent them." - Barack Hussein Obama "There is no reason any American should own an assault weapon." - Barack Hussein Obama Really, Mr President? Hmmmm.....let's examine these statements together.
Back to the original point.  Barry been sending weapons of all sorts, through Eric Holder, into conflcts that really have nothing to do with us and usually in the wrong side of things ayway.  because he was he side he is supplying to have a "legitimate shot at freedom."  In that same vein he does not want us to have them because with the populace having access to them, it makes a governmental take over of this country next to immpossible reguardless of how good our military is.  And a quick news flash on that, the 4 major branches of he military is on our side.   
Can we say the same thing about the 'UN' military?

Thje UN military, oh h-e-double hockey sticks no, and the national guard is iffy too.  But the Army, Navy, Air force and marines are behind us. 
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Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-07-08 9:58 PM
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Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-08 7:52 PM

 Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......

You go woman!!
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-07-08 10:33 PM
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I think it's fair to say that there's no correlation between strict gun control and the number of gun-related crimes and homicides.  If you want to see an explosion in gun related crimes, eliminate the 2nd Ammendment, and watch the sparks fly.  
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Posted 2014-07-08 10:42 PM
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This video is a classic on gun control, in my opinion.  Many of the women who have posted on this thread could easily say what she said.
This sums it up perfectly, especially her last parting comment.  Gutsy.
You have to C&P this, but it's well worth watching:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrIsuO5PLc
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-07-09 12:26 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-07-08 10:42 PM

This video is a classic on gun control, in my opinion.  Many of the women who have posted on this thread could easily say what she said.
This sums it up perfectly, especially her last parting comment.  Gutsy.
You have to C&P this, but it's well worth watching:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrIsuO5PLc

I've seen this before.... and I agree with her very last line. Here is a live link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgrIsuO5PLc
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Posted 2014-07-09 5:36 AM
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Cindy Hamilton - 2014-07-08 7:52 PM  Just saw this post......an AR-15 is just a semi auto rifle.......I have a Colt tactical AR 15 modified for competition, a Glock 34 competition 9mm pistol, and a Mossberg 930 JM Pro shotgun...all designed to be accurate and load fast.....I'm practicing for ladies 3 gun competitions, so yes, I do practice...have to.....Anyone can buy from individuals on Armslist for cash, anonymous, no background check.......I'm a patriot, and like that sign said, my door is locked for your protection.......

I knew I liked you! 
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Posted 2014-07-09 7:25 AM
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barrelracr131 - 2014-07-08 3:39 PM Chicago is such a mess because there is such a large number of high poverty areas, period. Those areas have huge drug and gang issues. 



Anyone who thinks gun control laws, including background checks, do ANYTHING to stop CRIMINALS from getting weapons is living under a rock. It's not difficult to find someone selling drugs or illegal weapons in Illinois in a bad area, and CRIMINALS know all the right people to get all the guns they want or need.



The state of IL is BROKE. They don't have the money to pay enough police officers to patrol these "bad neighborhoods", ie the ghettos, which is where all this violence occurs. For the most part, the downtown areas and nicer residential neighborhoods are pretty safe, even at night, or at least as safe as any other major city. Just watch where you wander off too... you don't want to take a wrong turn in certain areas. We used to hit the bars in the downtown area when I was younger frequently, and we never had any issues with safety. But then again, we were in the nicer, safe areas of the city.... which are a far cry from the "bad" areas.

My niece lives in Chicago and this is what she says too.  However, bless her heart, she is also a bleeding heart.  While I commend her, she does try and do alot in the inner city to help some of these kids.  I worry about her safety.   
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