firewaterfuelsme - 2014-09-30 10:29 AM Basically there is no way to know for sure if the stats are accurate when purchasing a horse. I would never rely on that as a buying tool. Maybe if there were more accurate ways of ensuring the info reported is accurate then I would care. Big futurities check papers at check in and horse is #. But weekend jackpots and shows where horse is not verified by identity is only as accurate as the person reporting wants it to be. The horse industry is like the used car industry. you have to shop and test drive because far too many sellers are dishonest. Until equistat becomes reliable and credible I will continue to use barn names or no name at all.

TheOldGrayMare - 2014-09-30 9:57 AM

I am really surprised by the people who are so weird about writing a registered name on an entry form. How hard is it? What are you trying to hide? You don't like your horse's registered name? Who cares! I've seen some stupid registered names, but I don't care if the horse's name One Eyed Trouser Snake - if it's winning I want to know how it's bred! Just because you're old, grumpy and they didn't do it back in the day isn't really a good answer either. They didn't have cell phones back then either, but you sure have one now.

Breeders put a lot of blood, sweat, tears and certainly MONEY into putting babies on the ground to promote their program. When someone enters a product of the breeder's program in a race or rodeo or whatever and just puts "Skippy" it is offensive because how the hell are they supposed to prove Good Ole Skippy is actually by their stallion or out of their mare? Most people in the breeding business are not making Big Bucks, so their reward is when a horse from their program goes on to win. You are "Paid" so to speak but getting the pride of knowing you raised that horse to be a winner and now it has hone on to prove that. People also like to be proud and say they own a full brother or 3/4 brother or whatever to such and such horse.

firewaterfuelsme - 2014-09-30 8:29 AM Basically there is no way to know for sure if the stats are accurate when purchasing a horse. I would never rely on that as a buying tool. Maybe if there were more accurate ways of ensuring the info reported is accurate then I would care. Big futurities check papers at check in and horse is #. But weekend jackpots and shows where horse is not verified by identity is only as accurate as the person reporting wants it to be. The horse industry is like the used car industry. you have to shop and test drive because far too many sellers are dishonest. Until equistat becomes reliable and credible I will continue to use barn names or no name at all.

cheryl makofka - 2014-09-30 10:43 AM People are saying to use the registered name to give credit where credit is due. Yes I do believe that breeding has a small part of making a champion, but I see training is the larger part. My understanding equistat does not credit the trainer anyway. Also someone please comment I heard equistat will not accept results unless 80 percent of horses are registered?



Equi Stat keeps record of the rider too.

SMartin - 2014-09-30 10:57 AM


 

ThreeCorners - 2014-09-30 12:55 PM I find it so funny, and ironic that some on here are saying it doesnt matter, the breeding side of things dont matter, the buying and selling side of things dont matter, yet,,,,,the pages are FULL of "Who to breed to" posts, "critique this pedigree" posts, and the "NFR horses how are they bred" posts. We have the top end sires, the blue hen mares, and everybody wants one of those. Well you know what, it's because of Equistate we have that information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just admit it, you dont like to, or wont enter by their registered name because it's to many letters and you cant spell if it's more then 3 letters.

cheryl makofka - 2014-09-30 12:13 PM


The rider may not necessarily be the trainer though.

And can someone comment on the 80% registration requirement, is this true

SKM - 2014-09-30 1:45 PM


 Yes, training does play a big part. But if someone has jockeyed a horse for 5 years, but they didn't train it....why on earth should the trainer be the one to take credit for money the horse is earning 5 years later? Obviously the jockey has done something right if the horse is still winning.

NJJ - 2014-09-30 1:25 PM      

dhdqhllc - 2014-09-26 3:43 PM

hmmmm....i already barfed once reading that post on fb........


how about just this ......'dislike' 

OregonBR - 2014-09-29 4:35 PM


Because the people who have stallions and products to market specifically to barrel racers spend literally millions every year in incentive money and sponsorship money to plump up the purses for everyone.  

Advertising in magazines who then sponsor races and write stories about the winners so we can all read them.  

The more each of us can help the industry as a whole the more $$ are out there for you all to run at.  

bennie1 - 2014-09-30 2:01 PM Now, I'm not trying to be a beotch. I am asking with a smile on my face...aren't you a Jackie Bee fan? You have a band of really nice broodmare that carry Jackie Bee bloodlines? How did you become aware or interested in Jackie Bee? Just happen to own one good one with those bloodlines? Or were there a few competing and winning? Or a combination of several factors? Point is...somehow you decided that horses carrying Jackie Bee blood possessed characteristics you liked. In my view, Equistat is just ONE tool that can help people determine if a bloodline may possess characteristics (money earning get) that they are looking for or, to go a step further, to get an idea of what crosses work. Really, is it that much of an intrusion on your day or your civil liberties to write down their registered names? Just a thought.... ;)

dhdqhllc - 2014-09-30 2:12 PM lol...gray.....had a couple....not really any around competing and winning at the time......so....combination of factors......i had a decent debate about my reasons that i disliked this on Honor Bounds facebook post...not just to be ornery or protect my civil liberties.....lol...not that i wouldn't be like that...i sure would.....and it is a tool....didn't say it wasn't....just some of the things presented and certain attitudes bugged me.....most have been mentioned in this thread already......and i didn't care to get into it again other than like and dislike....lol...but for you, sure.......now if they only had those damn like and dislike buttons i could just hit those and that would be enough for me...

TheOldGrayMare - 2014-09-30 9:57 AM I am really surprised by the people who are so weird about writing a registered name on an entry form. How hard is it? What are you trying to hide? You don't like your horse's registered name? Who cares! I've seen some stupid registered names, but I don't care if the horse's name One Eyed Trouser Snake - if it's winning I want to know how it's bred! Just because you're old, grumpy and they didn't do it back in the day isn't really a good answer either. They didn't have cell phones back then either, but you sure have one now.



Breeders put a lot of blood, sweat, tears and certainly MONEY into putting babies on the ground to promote their program. When someone enters a product of the breeder's program in a race or rodeo or whatever and just puts "Skippy" it is offensive because how the hell are they supposed to prove Good Ole Skippy is actually by their stallion or out of their mare? Most people in the breeding business are not making Big Bucks, so their reward is when a horse from their program goes on to win. You are "Paid" so to speak but getting the pride of knowing you raised that horse to be a winner and now it has hone on to prove that. People also like to be proud and say they own a full brother or 3/4 brother or whatever to such and such horse.