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   Location: SE Louisiana | CJE - 2014-10-13 6:36 PM
The history of Ebola shows us that the virus up to this point has been very specific to hot African countries, which makes a lot of people come to the inaccurate conclusion that Ebola thrives in hot climates, which simply is not the case. Ebola, much like other aerosol transmittable viruses, tends to be many times more transmittable during the cold dry months of winter, something up to this point hasn’t been openly seen with Ebola, since it has never been spread outside of Africa. Not only can the Ebola virus survive in both a liquid & dried state for several days in room temperature outside of a host, but as the temperature goes down, the virus thrives even more, becoming able to survive outside of a host (again in both liquid or dried states ) for even longer (becoming indefinitely stable at -70C ). http://therawfeedlive.com/viruses-including-ebola-survive-much-longer-are-many-times-more-transmittable-in-cold-weather/
OK... First of all I question all the sources provided here.... Rawfeed and godlikeproductions.com??? Gimme a break here... Ebola cannot survive outside a host in cold because cold kills it.. just like hot and dry places because UV and Gamma (Strong sunlight) kill it too... Ebola comes from the jungle... Hot climate with a dark (under the jungle canopy) environment. Once outside of that environment it dissipates unless it is maintained in a laboratory or a host. All this information can be found at CDC and WHO websites as well as other infectious disease research sites. Stop spreading panic.. |
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| NOW, they suspect a man in Kansas City, Ks has it - he had worked in the "hot zone" - folks, this is going to spread like wildfire and nobody will be able to stop it because it SEEMS they don't know HOW people are getting it. OBVIOUSLY the hospitals DON'T know the correct protocol or it was NOT followed there in Dallas for that nurse to have gotten it. I don't believe a single thing that comes out of our corrupt government on this, (or anything else). |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Griz - 2014-10-14 5:28 AM
NOW, they suspect a man in Kansas City, Ks has it - he had worked in the "hot zone" - folks, this is going to spread like wildfire and nobody will be able to stop it because it SEEMS they don't know HOW people are getting it. OBVIOUSLY the hospitals DON'T know the correct protocol or it was NOT followed there in Dallas for that nurse to have gotten it. I don't believe a single thing that comes out of our corrupt government on this, (or anything else).
The word this morning is that the Dallas hospital did not have a biocontainment unit like certain other hospitals that are more prepared for these cases. She was wearing a full suit, two sets of gloves, etc. Extra precautions. However, they did not have the full jumpsuit with the taped gloves, connected boots, etc. |
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                      Location: Here | oija - 2014-10-14 7:44 AM Griz - 2014-10-14 5:28 AM NOW, they suspect a man in Kansas City, Ks has it - he had worked in the "hot zone" - folks, this is going to spread like wildfire and nobody will be able to stop it because it SEEMS they don't know HOW people are getting it. OBVIOUSLY the hospitals DON'T know the correct protocol or it was NOT followed there in Dallas for that nurse to have gotten it. I don't believe a single thing that comes out of our corrupt government on this, (or anything else). The word this morning is that the Dallas hospital did not have a biocontainment unit like certain other hospitals that are more prepared for these cases. She was wearing a full suit, two sets of gloves, etc. Extra precautions. However, they did not have the full jumpsuit with the taped gloves, connected boots, etc.
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | My heart breaks for the nurse in Dallas and the one in Spain. Doing their jobs with the equipment they were given may have cost them their lives. IF you want to see how the two people brough to Emory in Atlanta were transported google the plane. It was a very protective enviroment. Can something like this not be replicated in hospitals? Another thing I do not understand is how are hospitals making such a quick decision that people do not have Ebola? Case in point the couple in New York. They had fevers, had been in South Africa - a great distance from the out break - but so is the US, and it was determined they did not have Ebola the very same day they went to the hospital. I thought it took atleast a day to get results back if not two. One would think surely it could not happen again like with Duncan - but you never know. Also, what is the condition of the man in Nebraska? As for the man in Kansas I feel confident he has it by the way that is being handled. Prayers for the two nurses, the man in Nebraska, and all the others in quarantine |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | komet. - 2014-10-13 3:02 AM CJE - 2014-10-13 6:36 PM The history of Ebola shows us that the virus up to this point has been very specific to hot African countries, which makes a lot of people come to the inaccurate conclusion that Ebola thrives in hot climates, which simply is not the case. Ebola, much like other aerosol transmittable viruses, tends to be many times more transmittable during the cold dry months of winter, something up to this point hasn’t been openly seen with Ebola, since it has never been spread outside of Africa.
Not only can the Ebola virus survive in both a liquid & dried state for several days in room temperature outside of a host, but as the temperature goes down, the virus thrives even more, becoming able to survive outside of a host (again in both liquid or dried states ) for even longer (becoming indefinitely stable at -70C ).
http://therawfeedlive.com/viruses-including-ebola-survive-much-longer-are-many-times-more-transmittable-in-cold-weather/ OK... First of all I question all the sources provided here.... Rawfeed and godlikeproductions.com??? Gimme a break here... Ebola cannot survive outside a host in cold because cold kills it.. just like hot and dry places because UV and Gamma (Strong sunlight ) kill it too... Ebola comes from the jungle... Hot climate with a dark (under the jungle canopy ) environment. Once outside of that environment it dissipates unless it is maintained in a laboratory or a host. All this information can be found at CDC and WHO websites as well as other infectious disease research sites. Stop spreading panic..
Dear Komet.........I just googled....after your post about the weather conditions and ebola.....but then again you might explain why on the News they should disinfecting the sidewalk at the nurses house where her dog.........might have walked...........just saying..........as for panic..........I think it is time we are all concerned.......not panic.............my husbands flies every week.......could he come in contact with someone that has Ebola.........the chances are not likely but I feel he is more likely than you......due to the nature of his job........ |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | Ebola in Germany
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/14/world/europe/ebola-outbreak/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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                      Location: Here | Does anyone know the cost to test to see if someone has Ebola? With so many of these foreigners going to er's I could see the hesitation to not test.... ARGGG |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-virus-outbreak-2014-ebola-costs-numbers-who-requires-490-million-fight-ebola-1673538 |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | There are a lot of things about this disease that aren't known with complete certainty, as far as I can tell. One question I have is whether or not someone can transmit the virus to someone else during the incubation period, or the "window" when someone is assymptomtic. |
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      Location: oklahoma | A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business.
Oh NO!!!!!!!!! This is not good - prayers for this family. |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. What is your source of this information? Not doubting you - just could not find anything when I did a search on this. Thank you.
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| cruise - 2014-10-14 3:19 PM CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. What is your source of this information? Not doubting you - just could not find anything when I did a search on this. Thank you.
I just heard on the news that the only confirmed case of Ebola caught on USA soil is the nurse in Dallas. No reports of any family having it. |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | cruise - 2014-10-14 3:19 PM CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. What is your source of this information? Not doubting you - just could not find anything when I did a search on this. Thank you.
Me neither. I was thinking thenationalreport.com was not reliable. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | Texas Town Has Not Been Quarantined After Family of Five Tests Positive for EbolaA fake article published earlier today claims that the small town of Purdon, Texas has been quarantined after a family had tested positive for Ebola. Sponsored Links Fake News This spurious piece is the latest attempt at viral fear mongering from National Report, an ill-famed satire site notorious for their fake news pieces. The false article claims that the small town of Purdon, Texas had been quarantined after a family of five had been diagnosed with the Ebola virus. It goes on to claim that the father of the family had apparently contracted Ebola on a business trip to Dallas (reported to be 70 miles away), and the rest of the family had subsequently caught the virus when the man did not seek medical attention. According to the fictional column, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had sealed off the town with road blocks. To repeat, the write-up is phony. Satirical Ebola ArticlesSponsored Links Recently, Ebola has been a prominent topic for the mainstream news media. In turn, this makes it a favored topic for satire sites which intend on capitalizing on current newsworthy trends with fabricated news articles. At times, this involves scaremongering as a tactic for attracting traffic. National Report Imitation news articles originating from such websites as National Report have become profitable over the last two years. Oftentimes, such articles are transmitted through social media avenues by wide-eyed readers who appear to only glance at the headlines before passing them on to friends. Occasionally, such behavior results in viral memes. In previous times, the National Report website had contained a disclaimer which let visitors know that their articles were fictional and intended as satirical entertainment. Of late, the disclaimer has been withdrawn or concealed from public visibility. Summary A small town in Texas has not been quarantined after a family of five tested positive for Ebola. The website which published this claim (National Report) has been recognized as a satirical website which produces artificial news. |
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      Location: oklahoma | Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-14 3:24 PM cruise - 2014-10-14 3:19 PM CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. What is your source of this information? Not doubting you - just could not find anything when I did a search on this. Thank you. Me neither. I was thinking thenationalreport.com was not reliable.
I am so sorry and very thankful but someone told me that it's a hoax. I don't know why someone would start this but I thought it was a reliable source. Apologies. |
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:26 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-14 3:24 PM cruise - 2014-10-14 3:19 PM CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. What is your source of this information? Not doubting you - just could not find anything when I did a search on this. Thank you. Me neither. I was thinking thenationalreport.com was not reliable. I am so sorry and very thankful but someone told me that it's a hoax. I don't know why someone would start this but I thought it was a reliable source. Apologies.
I don't know why people do things like this either. You didn't know, and were trying to make us aware. There is so much going around about Edola it is hard to keep fact from fiction. |
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      Location: oklahoma | cruise - 2014-10-14 3:30 PM CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:26 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-14 3:24 PM cruise - 2014-10-14 3:19 PM CurlyQ - 2014-10-14 4:00 PM A family of 5, from purdon, Texas has tested positive for Ebola. The dad was in dallas last week for business. What is your source of this information? Not doubting you - just could not find anything when I did a search on this. Thank you. Me neither. I was thinking thenationalreport.com was not reliable. I am so sorry and very thankful but someone told me that it's a hoax. I don't know why someone would start this but I thought it was a reliable source. Apologies. I don't know why people do things like this either. You didn't know, and were trying to make us aware. There is so much going around about Edola it is hard to keep fact from fiction.
Thanks. I'd heard of the national review and had googled it and this is what I read, a semi monthly magazine started in 1955 by William F. Buckley. It describes itself as ' Americans most widely read and influential magazine and web site for conservative news, commentary and opinion.' I'm so glad that it turned out to be nothing. My son and his friend were in Dallas last weekend for the OU game and state fair down there. Sons friend threw up for 2 days after and luckily his dad is a doctor because they immediately took him in a tested for everything, even a concussion. Just the flu. That's got to make it harder to diagnose right off. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | "Satire"? Yeah, I guess. I was laughing hysterically When I read that.
Everybody needs to just calm down and make sure your sources are reliable and reputable. |
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