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Location: Riding Crackhead. | A few different people have suggested riding him but you haven't replied to that, just treating ulcers. He needs to be rode. Bond with him. Get to know him away from barrels. | |
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Location: Texas | mruggles - 2014-10-17 10:14 AM
mollibtexan - 2014-10-18 6:09 AM I am always blown away by the statement I never work them on barrels?! Seriously this is why horses get "Issues"! Hot horses need structure and routine. They don't need pasture ridden! ?? this blew me away......my horses never see the arena at home (unless they are just getting started) and when i go to a jackpot i do not take my horses in the arena, and i have NEVER had a blown up or hot nasty horse, my horses know that when we are goin in the arena its to work not piss around loping mindless circle after circle and to get picked on constantly(not saying this is the case here but i see it all the time) i ride out in the pasture every ride from my 2 yr old to my 15 yr olds.......thats just my 2 cents
as to my opinion on the op's horse...ULCERS, would be my first check
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I was saying hot horses in particular. As you stated none have yours have been hot. I was referring to hot horses in particular. I ride all my colts in the pasture but not hot horses. | |
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| mollibtexan - 2014-10-17 10:24 PM
mruggles - 2014-10-17 10:14 AM
mollibtexan - 2014-10-18 6:09 AM I am always blown away by the statement I never work them on barrels?! Seriously this is why horses get "Issues"! Hot horses need structure and routine. They don't need pasture ridden! ?? this blew me away......my horses never see the arena at home (unless they are just getting started) and when i go to a jackpot i do not take my horses in the arena, and i have NEVER had a blown up or hot nasty horse, my horses know that when we are goin in the arena its to work not piss around loping mindless circle after circle and to get picked on constantly(not saying this is the case here but i see it all the time) i ride out in the pasture every ride from my 2 yr old to my 15 yr olds.......thats just my 2 cents
as to my opinion on the op's horse...ULCERS, would be my first check
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I was saying hot horses in particular. As you stated none have yours have been hot. I was referring to hot horses in particular. I ride all my colts in the pasture but not hot horses.
I tend to agree with Misty,
I have had to fix unsafe hot horses, I rode one who couldn't stand still, he would go straight up in the air. Best thing for him was riding in the open fields on trails, as it gave his mind time to relax and calm down.
I do believe this is why Misty doesn't consider herself having hot horses.
My 4 yr old when I was riding her as a 3 yr old, I was afraid she was going to be too hot to handle 5 yr old futurities, by doing most of my work out of the arena, and keeping the arena slow and calm, she is right on track for 5 yr old futurities.
Horses are very versatile, there are many different training methods to get to similar outcomes.
Personally with the Op's horse if it was mine, I would be riding the horse in the open fields, working on circles, leads, shape, then I would go to the arena walk the pattern, renter the arena and get off and loosen the cinch at first barrel take boots off, even give a crunchy to reassure this horse the arena is an okay spot to be.
I would also be treating the horse for ulcers for atleast 30 days, then day before day of and day after competitions.
I would also make sure this horse had hay infront of him 24/7 even when at a barrel race | |
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Location: MN | Barrelhorsehelp1 - 2014-10-17 2:54 PM
i didn't come to this group to be bashed about my horse, obvsly i want to FIX what is wrong or i wouldn't be asking for help from such rude people that don't know me nor my horse. (doesn't apply to everyone) i am trying my best to fix everything. i know he is sound i know he is utd on teeth feet etc. he has been vetted and nothing was found. i don't ride him because his pervious owners didn't either, that wasn't something i just decided to do. And he is on a round bale 24-7. he doesn't have ANY grass. i will treat with ulcers tonight. his feed is max 13.0 starch. Also i was just told, literally just told 5 mins ago by a old old owner that had him (years ago) that when she got him his feet where bad. he had x-rays done and he had some changes to the coffin bone but everything was fixed there when he got him. I called and made ANOTHER appointment with 2 different vets to get 2 different options. I'm not trying to drug him, i have a terrible anxitity disorder so i know what its like to be nervous, i take a prescribed medicine and i don't consider myself "drugged" when i need to take my medicine. Also i never said he was FINE till i got him, his ex ex old owners had the same problem, (which i think i already mentioned this) she said he was dangerous. but she fixed him. after she sold him, she says she didn't know what happen to him. So he has had this problem before. No i am not trying to sell him. Not yet at least. Yes i should be able to run him now or whenever, doesn't matter if I've owned him for 1 week or 10 weeks. i paid over $15.000 for this horse, so yes i wanted to run him whenever i could. Had i known he was going to try to kill me, maybe i would i have reconsidered. please let me clarify.. He is SOLID, FINISHED. makes the SAME run EVERYTIME. no blowing off barrels so taking steps by barrels. NOTHINg. its getting him into the arena is the problem. so please if anyone has any other ideas. and doesn't want to be rude to me, please again, help me.
can you go to the ex ex owners and find out what they did to fix the problem? Also have him checked for navicular. | |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I had a horse sent to me earlier this year that was having the same issue. I took him to a junior rodeo in my back yard and couldn't even get him near the warm up pen for about 30 min. We finally made it to the mouth of the alley but I felt like I was on a Volcano. He was a big powerhouse and I was in a dangerous situation. Once at home he rode fine in my small pasture and even my arena. I hauled him to the ranch to work goats and noticed he didn't move out the way that he was built to. He was 'guarding' his steps. Talked to the owners about having the shoer take him to the vet and get some X-rays. Shoer did just that. Adjusted his shoeing and off we went again. I rode him another week slow at the house and felt that he was not using himself deep enough to gather and leave a barrel powerfully while doing dry work. Called owners again and they allowed me to have my "track vet" over to do some injections. We did the injections gave him some time off and on return to saddle ridden work he felt better but still had something that I couldn't put my finger on. The owner talked to the vet I had out and agreed with us to send his horse to a bone scan. Well, wouldn't you know it he lit up-all over. The poor boy needed some much needed time off of ridden work and some well deserved therapy. He got the therapy and came back in 8 weeks time to saddle work and thru his vast improvement was actually sold to a college gal doing very well on him.
When a horse that has no bony changes nor any soft tissue lesions stops working their normal I want you to suspect generalized body soreness. You have to stop that cascade and once that's been done then resume.
I've been on plenty of blown up barrel horses and even have a mare of my own right now that I've spent lots of $ on. Some can make a come back and others just can't- be it physical, mental/emotional.
I'm trying my best to learn about EO (essential oils) and there capabilities of reprogramming the emotional past of horses. I've been quite astonished at some of the changes I've seen in a few horses.
The first thing I would ever do on a horse refusing the alley and performance runs is check for bleeding or airway anamalies. The second is ulcers with the inclusion of hind gut acidosis. If you have a horse that's not wanting to stay hydrated on the trailer (or at an event) then do something about that and you may just change the pH in the hind gut and their ability to perform. As well, you should be willing to oral dose the horse with something such as Lilly of the Desert "Stomach Formula" to aid in a clinical diagnosis of stomach ulcers. Most horses lick this product up straight out of the feed pail. The third is a simple lameness evaluation, followed with treatment of any grade 2 or greater swinging leg lameness. If you have a mare, well they get the full repo tract workup.
Teach your horse how to stretch and get in a routine of doing it daily for the upper level horse. I feel a horse running 1-2 D it keeps them running in those divisions. If your horse is not able to perform after treating appropriatly the above then its time to dive in for a bone scan and if nothing is found there then go to another vet for more blocking and reevaluate the possibility you may have a soft tissue lesion that was missed. If they find it on blocking then ultrasound with poss. of sending horse to MRI facility.
FYI, bone scans have come down in pricing and by time you have invested in simple X-rays on a moderate workup you could have paid for a total bone scan.
Hear my battle cry...for your horse...be cognizant of any and all changes keep a log so that you can track whats helping and whats not. Especially feed and medications.
I also want you to know I've given up on a few horses. I've lost several of my friends (that I grew up rodeoing with and) knowing that their life ended due to tragic deaths caused by a horse that was dangerous.
I tell you, we barrel racers would all be driving maserati's if we didn't have to be so diligent in the care of our horses.
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Location: In a happy place | uno-dos-tres! - 2014-10-18 9:42 AM I had a horse sent to me earlier this year that was having the same issue. I took him to a junior rodeo in my back yard and couldn't even get him near the warm up pen for about 30 min. We finally made it to the mouth of the alley but I felt like I was on a Volcano. He was a big powerhouse and I was in a dangerous situation. Once at home he rode fine in my small pasture and even my arena. I hauled him to the ranch to work goats and noticed he didn't move out the way that he was built to. He was 'guarding' his steps. Talked to the owners about having the shoer take him to the vet and get some X-rays. Shoer did just that. Adjusted his shoeing and off we went again. I rode him another week slow at the house and felt that he was not using himself deep enough to gather and leave a barrel powerfully while doing dry work. Called owners again and they allowed me to have my "track vet" over to do some injections. We did the injections gave him some time off and on return to saddle ridden work he felt better but still had something that I couldn't put my finger on. The owner talked to the vet I had out and agreed with us to send his horse to a bone scan. Well, wouldn't you know it he lit up-all over. The poor boy needed some much needed time off of ridden work and some well deserved therapy. He got the therapy and came back in 8 weeks time to saddle work and thru his vast improvement was actually sold to a college gal doing very well on him.
When a horse that has no bony changes nor any soft tissue lesions stops working their normal I want you to suspect generalized body soreness. You have to stop that cascade and once that's been done then resume.
I've been on plenty of blown up barrel horses and even have a mare of my own right now that I've spent lots of $ on. Some can make a come back and others just can't- be it physical, mental/emotional.
I'm trying my best to learn about EO (essential oils) and there capabilities of reprogramming the emotional past of horses. I've been quite astonished at some of the changes I've seen in a few horses.
The first thing I would ever do on a horse refusing the alley and performance runs is check for bleeding or airway anamalies. The second is ulcers with the inclusion of hind gut acidosis. If you have a horse that's not wanting to stay hydrated on the trailer (or at an event) then do something about that and you may just change the pH in the hind gut and their ability to perform. As well, you should be willing to oral dose the horse with something such as Lilly of the Desert "Stomach Formula" to aid in a clinical diagnosis of stomach ulcers. Most horses lick this product up straight out of the feed pail. The third is a simple lameness evaluation, followed with treatment of any grade 2 or greater swinging leg lameness. If you have a mare, well they get the full repo tract workup.
Teach your horse how to stretch and get in a routine of doing it daily for the upper level horse. I feel a horse running 1-2 D it keeps them running in those divisions. If your horse is not able to perform after treating appropriatly the above then its time to dive in for a bone scan and if nothing is found there then go to another vet for more blocking and reevaluate the possibility you may have a soft tissue lesion that was missed. If they find it on blocking then ultrasound with poss. of sending horse to MRI facility.
FYI, bone scans have come down in pricing and by time you have invested in simple X-rays on a moderate workup you could have paid for a total bone scan.
Hear my battle cry...for your horse...be cognizant of any and all changes keep a log so that you can track whats helping and whats not. Especially feed and medications.
I also want you to know I've given up on a few horses. I've lost several of my friends (that I grew up rodeoing with and) knowing that their life ended due to tragic deaths caused by a horse that was dangerous.
I tell you, we barrel racers would all be driving maserati's if we didn't have to be so diligent in the care of our horses.
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| It may be pain, it may be past history and it may be as simple as picking up on the rider's anxiety.
First thing....it's going to take time. You look for pain, breathing issues. Then spend some time riding this horse DOING SOMETHING ELSE. When you feel like you are gaining his trust and he, yours head for the arena but don't start running barrels. Chase cows, do a trail pattern but do something besides barrels and circles. Then haul him somewhere and DO SOMETHING BESIDES barrels in the arena. Let him learn that going in to an arena away from home does not have to cause him pain or anxiety.
THEN maybe start taking him to barrels races and exhibitions that don't always entail running a pattern. After all of the above coupled with feed changes and more natural calming things like B1, magnets, calming cookies etc., I "might" resort to trying a drug or two TEMPORARILY to try to convince him that running barrels can be fun.
All the while getting your anxieties and fears under control.
Or...... see if someone out there wants to trade. IMHO neither you OR your horse cannot make their best runs if EITHER is uncomfortable or afraid. Not all horse and rider combos are good matches. If you don't want to put the time into him or cannot trust him then find one that you CAN. Hopefully in that process he will find a match too. | |
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| There is not much fat in grass......why are you trying to make up for no grass with high fat feed? I don't think that is your problem, the horse is sore, or just hates barrels. Find a different job for the poor guy or go to a different vet. | |
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| I have thought about this and decided if my whole world consisted of a stall and a walker, I would be an A Hole too. If you have not had the horse long I would say that he is trying you and has gotten the upper hand. Relaxing rides in the pasture with loping and circling trees helps tremendously. If the only time that you ride him is at a barrel race I truly feel sorry for him. Wet saddle blankets correct many, many problems. | |
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Location: n.c. | I'm just totally confused by you never ride him at home, just shows; you only show once/twice a month, but you've only had him 3 weeks.
You are contradicting yourself with your posts. Straight talk would help alot with the answers and help you get. | |
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| I ended up with a blown up, dangerous horse. I took him completely off barrels for 6 months, but hauled him to the arena with us anytime we went. At first, I just walked him around the perimeter of the show. Didn't get anywhere near the arena. When he was finally relaxed doing that(however many shows it took) I then took him a bit closer to the arena and worked my way up to standing near the arena. Finally, after about 4 months, I started exhibitioning him, but only at a walk. The first time he went it, all he would do is trot. Never could get him to walk. Then did a few more exh. and got him to walk. Did that for a while until he would go in totally relaxed. Then started trotting the pattern, and eventually slow loping. I wanted him to learn that I wasn't going to ask him to give his life every time we went in to the pen.
Eventually I started running him, but always bought 1 exhibition so he could just walk in and see that I wasn't going to make him run every time.
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Location: Kansas | I have a pretty hot gelding that I'm running now and I have an older gelding with a history of bad gate issues so I feel like I have some experience with this type of horse.
Neither of them need to hang out anywhere near the alley or gate. They also aren't going to walk in flat footed on a loose rein. If they are going in the general vicinity of the gate, I stay off their face and just try to steer them if needed. Stopping them or insisting on a slow pace will just cause a fight. I've had people ride one of my other horses up beside them to get them in the gate, and I've even been drug into the alley by pickup men, ropers, and even a rodeo queen.
Clifford (the one I'm running a lot now) seems to have benefitted from changing to a low starch feed. I cut the corn & oats out of his diet, put a lot more alfalfa pellets in the mix, plus I feed him THE Equine Essentials with the highest level of calming added in, I have run him on Quietex, Vita Calm, SmartCalm Ultra and Animal Element's InTheZone paste, and he gets Maalox before every run to calm the butterflies in his stomach. He's very insecure and benefits from me talking to him and petting him on the neck while we wait our turn. He'll actually stand there and flex his head clear around to my foot and look at me with a scared kitten look in his eyes. He was a blown up racehorse, then blew up in bulldogging training, and in the wrong hands could be a blown up mess of a barrel horse. I know I get nervous running him because he's INSANELY fast and tough to keep up with, so I warm him up by trotting a little bit, moving him off my feet both directions, and then I get off. I'll hand walk him for 85% of the time that I'm "warming him up" and I step on maybe 5 horses before us, then quietly put my rubber bands on and I don't put both hands on the reins until we're very very close to the gate. A lot of times I have to grab the reins with my 2nd hand as he's taking off. I have given him reserpine in hopes of getting him past the frantic OMG WE HAVE TO RUN thoughts but honestly don't think it makes much of a difference. Quietex is my absolute favorite calming paste - it actually takes the edge off of him.
Joker (older gelding) has gate issues because he ran with sore hocks for a while before we found the problem. He used to spin, rear, back up fast, buck, kick, freeze completely, anything you can think of, he tried it. We got his hocks feeling good, and we make darn sure that his rider is CALM. I'm talking calm to the point of ready to take a nap. I also get off and hand walk him until right before we're up. If possible, I have someone on another horse walk up with us, and in a pinch, a person can get him started by leading him from the ground. He can't handle even being ridden in the arena before a race. If I think he needs to feel the ground, I pony him around instead. Basically I keep everything as relaxed as possible with him. He is turned out on grass 24/7 and I generally pony him for exercise. If he starts refusing the gate, I know it's time for a break from running or a trip to the vet.
If I had your horse, I would do the following (or at least consider them):
* Spend a ton of time becoming his friend. It is unreal how big a difference this can make. I have a friend (she's actually a member on here) who spent months just bonding with her super nice 1D gelding when she first got him. She took her time becoming his buddy and now he would do anything for her. A few years ago he needed someone to walk up beside him until he took off down the alley but he's over that now because she takes amazing care of him and finds ways to keep him relaxed until they need to run.
* Make sure he's feeling great. Vet, chiro, evaluate his feed to see if you're contributing to ulcers. Aloe vera juice is a good preventative for ulcers - just drizzle it on their grain every day - but I think omeprazole is the only drug that treats & heals them.
* Keep him calm. If that means you need to relax, try singing or talking to him so you can't hold your breath. If he has a best friend, have that horse walk up with him or hang out with him before your run. Or have someone on foot walk up with you keeping you and the horse calm.
* Ride at home doing anything but barrel work. Move cattle, go through rough terrain, up & down hills, work him over low jumps (a foot to foot & a half is about what I end up with when I put a PVC pipe on the top of two buckets LOL). Basically my hot horses do not do any barrel work at the house and if I haul them to town to work in the local arena, they WALK. I spend a ton of time scoring them in front of the pattern. I'll get Clifford settled and standing there on a loose rein, then walk him forward a couple steps and repeat the process. If I have to lope through the pattern, I make sure we walk it several times after that, then end the ride by sitting in front of the pattern where we'd start our run until he relaxes. | |
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Location: Here | uno-dos-tres! - 2014-10-18 9:42 AM I had a horse sent to me earlier this year that was having the same issue. I took him to a junior rodeo in my back yard and couldn't even get him near the warm up pen for about 30 min. We finally made it to the mouth of the alley but I felt like I was on a Volcano. He was a big powerhouse and I was in a dangerous situation. Once at home he rode fine in my small pasture and even my arena. I hauled him to the ranch to work goats and noticed he didn't move out the way that he was built to. He was 'guarding' his steps. Talked to the owners about having the shoer take him to the vet and get some X-rays. Shoer did just that. Adjusted his shoeing and off we went again. I rode him another week slow at the house and felt that he was not using himself deep enough to gather and leave a barrel powerfully while doing dry work. Called owners again and they allowed me to have my "track vet" over to do some injections. We did the injections gave him some time off and on return to saddle ridden work he felt better but still had something that I couldn't put my finger on. The owner talked to the vet I had out and agreed with us to send his horse to a bone scan. Well, wouldn't you know it he lit up-all over. The poor boy needed some much needed time off of ridden work and some well deserved therapy. He got the therapy and came back in 8 weeks time to saddle work and thru his vast improvement was actually sold to a college gal doing very well on him.
When a horse that has no bony changes nor any soft tissue lesions stops working their normal I want you to suspect generalized body soreness. You have to stop that cascade and once that's been done then resume.
I've been on plenty of blown up barrel horses and even have a mare of my own right now that I've spent lots of $ on. Some can make a come back and others just can't- be it physical, mental/emotional.
I'm trying my best to learn about EO (essential oils) and there capabilities of reprogramming the emotional past of horses. I've been quite astonished at some of the changes I've seen in a few horses.
The first thing I would ever do on a horse refusing the alley and performance runs is check for bleeding or airway anamalies. The second is ulcers with the inclusion of hind gut acidosis. If you have a horse that's not wanting to stay hydrated on the trailer (or at an event) then do something about that and you may just change the pH in the hind gut and their ability to perform. As well, you should be willing to oral dose the horse with something such as Lilly of the Desert "Stomach Formula" to aid in a clinical diagnosis of stomach ulcers. Most horses lick this product up straight out of the feed pail. The third is a simple lameness evaluation, followed with treatment of any grade 2 or greater swinging leg lameness. If you have a mare, well they get the full repo tract workup.
Teach your horse how to stretch and get in a routine of doing it daily for the upper level horse. I feel a horse running 1-2 D it keeps them running in those divisions. If your horse is not able to perform after treating appropriatly the above then its time to dive in for a bone scan and if nothing is found there then go to another vet for more blocking and reevaluate the possibility you may have a soft tissue lesion that was missed. If they find it on blocking then ultrasound with poss. of sending horse to MRI facility.
FYI, bone scans have come down in pricing and by time you have invested in simple X-rays on a moderate workup you could have paid for a total bone scan.
Hear my battle cry...for your horse...be cognizant of any and all changes keep a log so that you can track whats helping and whats not. Especially feed and medications.
I also want you to know I've given up on a few horses. I've lost several of my friends (that I grew up rodeoing with and) knowing that their life ended due to tragic deaths caused by a horse that was dangerous.
I tell you, we barrel racers would all be driving maserati's if we didn't have to be so diligent in the care of our horses.
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Location: Here | kmcsunshine - 2014-10-19 4:35 PM There is not much fat in grass......why are you trying to make up for no grass with high fat feed? I don't think that is your problem, the horse is sore, or just hates barrels. Find a different job for the poor guy or go to a different vet.
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| I think you need to slow him down. He probably needs just trail riding and bonding with you. The horse will be way better if you make riding fun for him like riding on the trail and when you are practicing barrels then just walk, every horse knows how to run so there's no reason to practice running. When you're riding walk him in and out of the arena and don't go to the barrels just walk in a little bit and turn around and come back out. When you're finally finished and he will walk in camly and not act up at all then do it one last time but walk him to the first barrel, get off and loosen your cinch and turn him away from the barrel and walk out with him(on foot) This makes the horse think barrels are fun and riding with you is fun too. He will be more willing to ride and do what you want if he knows you're his friend, not just the person that makes him work all the time. | |
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WOW!!! I have read all the comments in regards to your post!!..Sounds like you have a REALLY NICE HORSE, but somewhere along the line he has encountered ULCERS!! He will vet check SOUND through any kind of vet and test you can put him through...I KNOW FOR A FACT!!!! I spent nearly 20 grand trying to figure out what was wrong on a so called HOT HORSE when all it was ULCERS.. Dont just guess!!! Take your horse and have him Scoped for ulcers.. It Takes as little as 48 hours for a horse to get ulcers!!! MY horse that had them..i can tell you the exact moment when he got his, 9 YEARS AFTER when he got them...thats when i learned INDEPT about the ulcers...when he was young he got his foot caught in a fence and had to be stall rested for 2 weeks cause above his hoof was sewn up, he was given bute orally 3 days....THAT and the STRESS of being STALLED gave him ulcers....WOW hind sight is for sure 20/20!!! When you have a horse with ulcers, it is reccommended you DO NOT FEED GRAIN OF ANYKIND!!! you feed FORAGE...you keep hay in front of them 24/7 mixed with a little alfalfa that helps buffer their stomach. ALSO Once they have been DIAGNOSED with ulcers treating 30 days just wont get it....you MUST treat 90-120 days with omeprizole or ulcerguard paste (same thing) to GET RID of ulcers!!! Then from then on after...a few days before a show give him a dose of the paste every day till day of show and the day of the show and the day after the show....Help Reduce his stress around home....get on him and make things fun for him...go on a trail ride...RELAX ON HIM...lay the reins on his neck and let him go where he wants to go if your in a pasture.(keep your hands on the reins)..surely you can ride or you would not have bought him, right? if your out on the trails and not in the pasture, still lay the reins on his neck with your hand on the reins but softly and let him enjoy life...yall build a relationship. get to know one another. and until the 120 days are up i would NOT carry him to another barrel race...GOOD LUCK!!!
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Location: Kansas | CYA Ranch - 2014-10-17 9:56 PM A few different people have suggested riding him but you haven't replied to that, just treating ulcers. He needs to be rode. Bond with him. Get to know him away from barrels.
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2014-10-20 9:35 AM
CYA Ranch - 2014-10-17 9:56 PM A few different people have suggested riding him but you haven't replied to that, just treating ulcers. He needs to be rode. Bond with him. Get to know him away from barrels.
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I agree and let him get to know you on the ground. If they don't respect you on the ground they won't when you are riding them. | |
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