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| FlyingJT - 2014-11-13 9:55 AM
jbhoot - 2014-11-13 9:48 AM
I am a little shocked (Pissed really) at some off the remarks on this thread. How can you run your gum's about this show or Rob Oneal WITH OUT VIEWING THE SHOW. If you had watched the show you would see that he is not being paid did not reveal any tact's nor names that has not been released by the New York times, Nat Geo channel, Discovery Channel,Hollywood,several books already written about this, and the White House.
Because it's the fact the he is even talking that has people upset... it's not what he's saying but that he shouldn't be saying anything at all!
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | All I need to know is did he reveal his reasons for opening his mouth in the first place? What good has any of this interview done?
Entertaining? Sure, I love to know about the SEALS as much as the next guy. I love watching any and everything I can about them. I like seeing what they go through, the sacrifices they've made. I love it all, but do I need to know? Nope. Is there a reason it should not be publicized? Yep. Is he the only person to blame for information leaks? Nope. He is just the dude that has brought it to the public this week.
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| LRQHS - 2014-11-13 10:04 AM
All I need to know is did he reveal his reasons for opening his mouth in the first place? What good has any of this interview done?
Entertaining? Sure, I love to know about the SEALS as much as the next guy. I love watching any and everything I can about them. I like seeing what they go through, the sacrafices they've made. I love it all, but do I need to know? Nope. Is there a reason it should not be publicized? Yep. Is he the only person to blame for information leaks? Nope. He is just the dude that has brought it to the public this week.
Yes he did state why he came out now. If you had watched you would know that. Proves my point. |
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| Fox makes money from the advertisers who know well in advance what shows are airing and where those spots are. Hell yes money is being made here. Maybe nothing lines his pockets unless of course, he gains the interest of a movie producer and then what?
I'm not taking sides, I'm just letting you know that its gullible to really believe that someone didn't turn a profit. Fox wants viewers...this got attention and people talking. More viewers...more advertisers. It's the way we roll in America. I just wish this particular subject of Bin Laden stayed where it belongs. |
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Location: Arkansas | You can be pissed off all you want. Those of us who have had close relations with the military don't need to see the show. We know he stepped over the line by talking and writing about his experience. You keep your mouth shut and do not profit from it.
Of course, that would not satisfy the American public's thirst to know everything. Sometimes, it's just not none of your business.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Lobo - 2014-11-13 9:13 AM You can be pissed off all you want. Those of us who have had close relations with the military don't need to see the show. We know he stepped over the line by talking and writing about his experience. You keep your mouth shut and do not profit from it.
Of course, that would not satisfy the American public's thirst to know everything. Sometimes, it's just not none of your business.
It made for great Fox ratings.
This, this is exactly why. NEWS is such a load of CRAP, the real smelly kind. It is to get to the public, ratings and all that. Most if not all that you see and hear on TV is so far from the reality of it that is isn't even funny. News during Vietnam is one of the biggest reasons this country turned against it's own soldiers.
Glad it was a good entertaining show for those of you that watched, but you will never understand why those of us against it, did not. We can't convince you of our reasons so we have to agree to disagree. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | jbhoot - 2014-11-13 10:11 AM LRQHS - 2014-11-13 10:04 AM All I need to know is did he reveal his reasons for opening his mouth in the first place? What good has any of this interview done?
Entertaining? Sure, I love to know about the SEALS as much as the next guy. I love watching any and everything I can about them. I like seeing what they go through, the sacrafices they've made. I love it all, but do I need to know? Nope. Is there a reason it should not be publicized? Yep. Is he the only person to blame for information leaks? Nope. He is just the dude that has brought it to the public this week. Yes he did state why he came out now. If you had watched you would know that. Proves my point.
Do you feel like this has done anyone any good? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | He's a motivational speaker. Dude is going to profit from this. |
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| Lobo - 2014-11-13 10:13 AM
You can be pissed off all you want. Those of us who have had close relations with the military don't need to see the show. We know he stepped over the line by talking and writing about his experience. You keep your mouth shut and do not profit from it.
Of course, that would not satisfy the American public's thirst to know everything. Sometimes, it's just not none of your business.
It made for great Fox ratings.
I am ex military and so has every male in my family for the last 6 generations and I do not agree with you in this case. You have your opinion and so do I. But I am not going to judge Oneal nor anyone else without first viewing the show. If you wish to so be it.
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Location: Washington | He didn't learn anything from what happened to Matt Bissonette who wrote the book in 2012 called "No Easy Day". Pretty sure this will not end well for O'Neil.
AND no I did not watch, and what I don't get is why the folks from 9-11 that he spoke to said they got closure.....they needed to know who shot him to get that? Remember Bissonette also lays claims to doing this.... Heck Obama also claims he killed him.
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Location: NE flatlands | I am confused...people are upset about him sharing his story but why is this any different than the deadliest sniper in US History, Chris Kyle writing his best selling American Sniper book that specifically talks about his missions? Or Marcus Luttrell writing Lone Survivor, which they eventually made into a movie? Luttrell and Kyle were praised as hero's but O'Neill is being shunned...? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | O'Neil also said in earlier interviews that "we" all killed him. It wasn't enough for 911 families to know that Seal Team 6 killed him....nope, they needed to know that O'Neil was the one that shot him in the face.....not Bissonette, who O'Neil thinks only thinks he killed him. Sounds like a pecker contest in Seal Team 6, which really makes me feel safe.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | blondie71 - 2014-11-13 9:54 AM I am confused...people are upset about him sharing his story but why is this any different than the deadliest sniper in US History, Chris Kyle writing his best selling American Sniper book that specifically talks about his missions? Or Marcus Luttrell writing Lone Survivor, which they eventually made into a movie? Luttrell and Kyle were praised as hero's but O'Neill is being shunned...?
The sniper and Marcus's stories were something we all knew that went on (other than the rules of engagment that totally pissed me off in that movie). They were not after a single man that everyone in the world knew, one of the most powerful terrorists in history 911 for goodness sake. They told their story as any serviceman would, Luttrells story just happened to have one of the most intense moments as he was the only survivor. He was on a Seal mission, but not one of the super secret ones they have done in history that they keep absolute quiet about.
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Location: Midwest | jbhoot - 2014-11-13 10:11 AM LRQHS - 2014-11-13 10:04 AM All I need to know is did he reveal his reasons for opening his mouth in the first place? What good has any of this interview done?
Entertaining? Sure, I love to know about the SEALS as much as the next guy. I love watching any and everything I can about them. I like seeing what they go through, the sacrafices they've made. I love it all, but do I need to know? Nope. Is there a reason it should not be publicized? Yep. Is he the only person to blame for information leaks? Nope. He is just the dude that has brought it to the public this week. Yes he did state why he came out now. If you had watched you would know that. Proves my point.
Um, some of us choose not to pay for cable here! LOL
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Location: Arkansas | jbhoot - 2014-11-13 10:31 AM Lobo - 2014-11-13 10:13 AM You can be pissed off all you want. Those of us who have had close relations with the military don't need to see the show. We know he stepped over the line by talking and writing about his experience. You keep your mouth shut and do not profit from it.
Of course, that would not satisfy the American public's thirst to know everything. Sometimes, it's just not none of your business.
It made for great Fox ratings. I am ex military and so has every male in my family for the last 6 generations and I do not agree with you in this case. You have your opinion and so do I. But I am not going to judge Oneal nor anyone else without first viewing the show. If you wish to so be it.
We were Regular Army for 23 years. With a Top Secret Clearance. Guarding the Atomic Energy in Los Alamos, NM and Sandia Base in Albuquerque, NM. The Clearance was guarded very carefully. Never spoke or talked about, ever. They took it to their grave what was stored in those round mounds in Igloo Area on the back side of the post.
This was in the '50s when there was a German or Russian spy around every corner. You learn early on about "Loose Lips". Perhaps this was omited in this dude's training. It's brought home again when stationed 50 click's from the East German border with the threat of possibly having to evacuate west when there was chest thumping in the east. And woke up to tank's rumbling out at 3 am.
It's hard for me to understand the thinking of someone who served in the military to think what this dude did is OK.
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Location: Arkansas | Congratulations, it's wonderful that you have six generation's of military. So, your not completely ignorant of the code.
My lineage also go back a long way. To the American Revoulation. And all bush war's and big ones inbetween. |
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Location: Washington | Lobo, I fear that in this new era the right to know will over ride any codes...I mean for gosh sakes we announce to the world when and where we are sending troops and how many. I am shocked we didn't send Laden a postcard telling him the Welcome wagon was on their way.
And a question to all who have been following this....Is all of this information been declassified?
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Location: Arkansas | fatchance - 2014-11-13 12:03 PM Lobo, I fear that in this new era the right to know will over ride any codes...I mean for gosh sakes we announce to the world when and where we are sending troops and how many. I am shocked we didn't send Laden a postcard telling him the Welcome wagon was on their way.
And a question to all who have been following this....Is all of this information been declassified?
I have to agree, Fatchance. It's an era of entitlement. If it's legal and lines your pocket, go for it.
The era that I was associated with and the knowlege that this fella gave, would have earned him a free ride to Leavenwoth and not the military college.
I have to wonder what circumstances he was discharged. Be interesting to know.
Perhaps this is a wake up for the commander of the SEALS. They will tighten up their code of conduct, what can and cannot be devulged. |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | fatchance - 2014-11-13 12:03 PM Lobo, I fear that in this new era the right to know will over ride any codes...I mean for gosh sakes we announce to the world when and where we are sending troops and how many. I am shocked we didn't send Laden a postcard telling him the Welcome wagon was on their way.
And a question to all who have been following this....Is all of this information been declassified?
Ding Ding Ding....I didn't watch the interview and frankly I could care less WHO killed the SOB just as long as he is no longer breathing is all I really care about. I've always thought we offer too much information but that is what people believe anymore...that it is their right to this information and I don't believe it is. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | fatchance - 2014-11-13 12:03 PM Lobo, I fear that in this new era the right to know will over ride any codes...I mean for gosh sakes we announce to the world when and where we are sending troops and how many. I am shocked we didn't send Laden a postcard telling him the Welcome wagon was on their way.
And a question to all who have been following this....Is all of this information been declassified?
Well said and I also agree with Lobo.
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