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| SCORCHOLVR - 2014-11-20 10:15 AM Do you see how obsessed you are with this case? It's almost easy to believe that you would be obsessed enough to stalk someone. You aren't doing yourself any favors by continuing to rehash every detail of your relationship with her. This ^ The fact that you do not recognize how incredibly bad of an idea it is to be discussing this court case on a public forum that they can see and use against you in court is evidence that you are not looking at this clearly and may not be looking at other situations clearly either. Take a breath and do what you need to do to make this go away. As a woman, because of the statements you have made on here, I don't think your odds look too good for a jury trial.
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | This is what I sent to my attorney just now. Good morning Earl, Here is what I will accept in the Diversion: I will accept the Diversion and will complete all requirements that they want, Only if she drops the Civil Stalking charge and we go our separate ways. This is a win win for both of us. Her lies won't be exposed in court and to her fiance. In the deal, we both submit to a polygraph since they want me evaluated she needs to be evaluated also. If they do not accept this deal, we will go to trial. |
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | When you are being accused of something that is false and you defend yourself, I don't call that obcessed! |
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| Douglas J Gordon - 2014-11-20 10:48 AM
When you are being accused of something that is false and you defend yourself, I don't call that obcessed!
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       Location: Oz, Kansas | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-11-20 9:46 AM This is what I sent to my attorney just now.
Good morning Earl,
Here is what I will accept in the Diversion:
I will accept the Diversion and will complete all requirements that they want, Only if she drops the Civil Stalking charge and we go our separate ways. This is a win win for both of us. Her lies won't be exposed in court and to her fiance. In the deal, we both submit to a polygraph since they want me evaluated she needs to be evaluated also.
If they do not accept this deal, we will go to trial.
I seriously doubt she will consent to a polygraph since she isn't the one charged with a crime. Let it go, if you want to do diversion, do it successfully & move on. At this point who cares what lies she's told. Even if she took an ad out in the paper confessing her lies you still won't feel vindicated so move on. Last I checked a polygraph isn't submissable in court anyway. |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lookout hill - 2014-11-20 11:06 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-11-20 9:46 AM This is what I sent to my attorney just now.
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Here is what I will accept in the Diversion:
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I will accept the Diversion and will complete all requirements that they want, Only if she drops the Civil Stalking charge and we go our separate ways.Β This is a win win for both of us.Β Her lies won't be exposed in court and to her fiance.Β In the deal, we both submit to a polygraph since they want me evaluated she needs to be evaluated also.
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If they do not accept this deal, we will go to trial.
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I seriously doubt she will consent to a polygraph since she isn't the one charged with a crime. Β Let it go, if you want to do diversion, do it successfully & move on. Β At this point who cares what lies she's told. Β Even if she took an ad out in the paper confessing her lies you still won't feel vindicated so move on. Β Last I checked a polygraph isn't submissable in court anyway. Β Β
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   Location: Moving soon..... | First of all, I do not think that you are arrogant, just very honest and up front. I would go with what your attorney advises you to do. Good luck. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-11-20 10:33 AM
SCORCHOLVR - 2014-11-20 10:15 AM Do you see how obsessed you are with this case? It's almost easy to believe that you would be obsessed enough to stalk someone. You aren't doing yourself any favors by continuing to rehash every detail of your relationship with her. This ^ Β Β The fact that you do not recognize how incredibly bad of an idea it is to be discussing this court case on a public forum that they can see and use against you in court is evidence that you are not looking at this clearly and may not be looking at other situations clearly either. Β Take a breath and do what you need to do to make this go away. Β As a woman, because of the statements you have made on here, Β I don't think your odds look too good for a jury trial.Β
This is wisdom, you should take it. As a police officer and a woman, they are right. And your attorney will tell you (if he hasn't already) that asking a 'victim' to submit to a polygraph is distasteful to a jury. Walk away. |
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     Location: Canada | I don't know you so I have a limited view but I've read this post all the way through and this is my honest opinion of what I see.
You strongly feel you have been wronged and you want her to recant what she has said and start telling the truth. IMO you need to let this go. I can only imagine how awful this entire situation is but she's been given every opportunity to save face and she holds fast to what she's said. She either knows she's lying and doesn't know how to stop or get out of it, or she's suffering from a mental issue of some sorts and she can't distinguish fiction from reality. The other option is that she has been lying for so long she believes her own stories.
Regardless of the reason she is never going to suddenly start saying the truth and I can only imagine how much that must hurt but she's not going to change. The only thing you can change is how you react to this and it's time to try to let it go. (I know this is so much easier said then done.)
You're angry and you have a right to feel that way but you're coming off as arrogant and obsessive on this matter. I know that this woman is trying to ruin you and I can't only imagine the rage that can bring but you need you stop. I know you're looking for input from women but at this point it seems you are overly obsessing and you need to take a step back.
I think you were smart to go with option 3 but IMO you need to stop trying to "get back" at this woman. She's never going to come out and admit she was wrong and asking her to submit to a polygraph just looks immature. You know she won't agree and if she does what will it solve truthfully? You know she's lying and your friends know as well. That is what matters.
I think your best bet is Option 3 as long as it's wiped clean at the end and after that be thankful she's gone.
This was not meant to be rude or disrespectful but just as an observation. I hope that this has a swift end and that you are able to happily move on.
Best of luck!
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     Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | Thank you to all of you! I have heard from my attorney and he said he can't combine this with dropping the Civil charges so he is preparing for Court! |
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        Location: ND | your lawyer should have you declared mentally incompetent and then sue BHW for letting you put this on here...... |
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| Douglas J Gordon - 2014-11-20 1:00 PM
Thank you to all of you!Β I have heard from my attorney and he said he can't combine this with dropping the Civil charges so he is preparing for Court!
^^^ At the heart of humor is a seed of truth. And what dhdqhllc said was hilarious.
Seriously. Settle. Plea. Do not take the stand if it does go to court. You will never convince a jury with women on it. And the police officer's low opinion of you will hold a lot of weight with the jury (it always does).
I spend about two or three days a month testifying in court. I do not know a single attorney who isn't smart enough to Google every witness, victim, and suspect for incriminating, discrediting information. You are easy to find. And your obsession makes you look at least unstable. You will not be happy with the outcome of a court or jury trial.
Oh - and your attorney? Keep in mind, he will double his bill by getting a full court day out of it - plus all the prep. Attorneys aren't just sharks for their clients, they are first and foremost in the game to make money. Remember that when he advises you.
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      Location: Looking for someplace cooler | I will say this one time and one time only. If you have any court case pending or anything that may go to court. You keep your mouth shut, you do not go on any public form and discuss anything. Your lawyer should have told you that or you are old enough to know better. |
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          Location: Washington | JustJokin - 2014-11-20 11:42 AM I will say this one time and one time only. If you have any court case pending or anything that may go to court. You keep your mouth shut, you do not go on any public form and discuss anything. Your lawyer should have told you that or you are old enough to know better.
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        Location: ND | fatchance - 2014-11-20 1:45 PM JustJokin - 2014-11-20 11:42 AM I will say this one time and one time only. If you have any court case pending or anything that may go to court. You keep your mouth shut, you do not go on any public form and discuss anything. Your lawyer should have told you that or you are old enough to know better. He has been advised this before, but yet here we are again.
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       Location: Deep in the heart of Texas. | I Have a court case that is still going on almost a year later. Talk to your lawyer he will try to direct you in the right direction if he is a good lawyer. My lawyer suggested me to go into the right direction But I will not go into detail about my case. |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | For those people that say he is obsessed because of him posting her testimony, this is now in court records and is available to the public. DG, if you take #3, because it now becomes clear a civil suit cannot be tied to this, you will be wide open to anything she wants to sue you for with no way out. It has been said here by women about a woman that THIS woman will never admit she is wrong and that she has lied. Take this to heart. This is a truism about women. If you have the option to choose the judge over a jury, with the easily proven lies you have posted, take the judge. Even if you you get a woman judge she will be trained in the law and will not be able to ignore a pathological liar... Good luck sir. |
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