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Shorty 2
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-12-14 4:59 PM
Subject: RE: Let's reheat that can of worms


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Willow55 - 2014-12-14 2:07 PM

Didn't nancy win Houston in 2013 but didn't make the finals? So no easy trip there. I think she deserved to be there 110%.... Along with Kaley.

Yes, Nancy won Houston in 2013 but it didn't count that year for NFR standings.
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-12-14 5:33 PM
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uno-dos-tres! - 2014-12-11 10:28 AM
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NJJ - 2014-12-10 12:16 PM Personally, I don't think ANY money won at ANY "invitational" should count. And the WPRA screwed their members by allowing that to happen. That being said to say that any of the ladies there at the NFR don't "deserve" to be there is asinine.  
Agree.......and if I am not mistaken.......in a interview Kaley Bass even said herself she didn't think invitational rodeos should count........and it helped her make the NFR........
A few of them made that comment. I saw it on a website that interviewed all 15 of them. "What would you change about rodeo?" A few mentioned invitationals shouldn't count.
 I wonder what the real vote would be on the invitational format from the contestants...I made two meetings last year early in the season. Not more than a dozen gals showed up. Big Byron came and told us how the cow was going to eat the cabbage on a few points at one of them. 

The committees are the shakers here. Not the players and the middle man our associations are in a tough spot balancing the "act". 



I would love the big rodeos to open up much like the Ft Worth show. I just don't see that ever occurring again. But, I don't ever say never as several girls have learned the reason they got to dance was a big invitational win. Even if they were profoundly against the $ counting. I've not seen one turn down  the paid EF's and I've seen smiles as they've raced down  the T&M alley. 

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Why should they turn it down? They qualified fairly under the existing rules. Nothing underhanded happened, they qualified fair and square. It doesn't mean they agree with invitationals qualifying.
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Willow55
Reg. Oct 2014
Posted 2014-12-14 5:45 PM
Subject: RE: Let's reheat that can of worms



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Shorty 2 - 2014-12-14 4:59 PM

Willow55 - 2014-12-14 2:07 PM

Didn't nancy win Houston in 2013 but didn't make the finals? So no easy trip there. I think she deserved to be there 110%.... Along with Kaley.

Yes, Nancy won Houston in 2013 but it didn't count that year for NFR standings.

Ok ignore my comment then!! :)
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-12-15 1:19 AM
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lookout hill - 2014-12-11 10:07 AM It's not riders fault that they were talented enough to win the big rodeos.

 
I agree.  Not only do Houston and Calgary add BIG money....They draw in TONS of contestants!  If you are good enough to beat those top name contestants, you should be rewarded! 



They didn't get handed that money, they still had to do a lot of work to win!
Its invitation only....not all and allowed to compete.

Even better then.  They don't invite average joe "Rodeo Girls".  They invite the best of the best.  

  I agree 100% If you can win at a competitive rodeo w/ a ton of prize # you deserve to go to the NFR!
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-12-15 7:45 AM
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lookout hill - 2014-12-11 10:07 AM It's not riders fault that they were talented enough to win the big rodeos.

 
I agree.  Not only do Houston and Calgary add BIG money....They draw in TONS of contestants!  If you are good enough to beat those top name contestants, you should be rewarded! 



They didn't get handed that money, they still had to do a lot of work to win!
Its invitation only....not all and allowed to compete.

Even better then.  They don't invite average joe "Rodeo Girls".  They invite the best of the best.  

  I agree 100% If you can win at a competitive rodeo w/ a ton of prize # you deserve to go to the NFR!

Okay lets not give ppl like Sarah M and others just starting on the rodeo road with good horses a fair chance. If she would have got the invite or had the chance to run at the big invites she would have been in the top 15 without a doubt.
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rodeoveteran
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-12-15 11:19 AM
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Agreed. That has always been the beauty of rodeo for me. You can BE an "average Joe" (ie someone who hasn't been able to go down the road) and still be able to outrun the toughs. Heck, I have learned to NEVER discount the "local yokels", no matter what their horse looks like or how they are dressed. They have taken my money more than once. And don't forget that Charmayne and Scamper were once those local yokels running at their first rodeo and they made history and records that will stand for many, many years.

Limiting entries can decrease the level of competition. It's like saying that you are afraid some unknown will come in and embarrass the "toughs" by outrunning them. They should at least get the chance. And this is not even mentioning the regional toughs that normally for whatever reason can't don't haul all over the country. Shouldn't they get a chance to prove themselves as bonafide cardholders?
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-12-15 11:23 AM
Subject: RE: Let's reheat that can of worms



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rodeoveteran - 2014-12-15 12:19 PM Agreed. That has always been the beauty of rodeo for me. You can BE an "average Joe" (ie someone who hasn't been able to go down the road) and still be able to outrun the toughs. Heck, I have learned to NEVER discount the "local yokels", no matter what their horse looks like or how they are dressed. They have taken my money more than once. And don't forget that Charmayne and Scamper were once those local yokels running at their first rodeo and they made history and records that will stand for many, many years. Limiting entries can decrease the level of competition. It's like saying that you are afraid some unknown will come in and embarrass the "toughs" by outrunning them. They should at least get the chance. And this is not even mentioning the regional toughs that normally for whatever reason can't don't haul all over the country. Shouldn't they get a chance to prove themselves as bonafide cardholders?

 
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