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Location: Midwest | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-22 8:23 PM vjls - 2014-12-22 7:56 PM bennie1 - 2014-12-22 4:00 PM I think a lesson from someone you respect is far better than asking a bunch of strangers who may or may not be half baked to comment on a horse and rider they have never seen.  i agree plus no video plus did not like vonda.s comment I added a video
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| 2 suggestions: 1. have her checked over thoroughly for pain. She might be a pretty tough horse and not really showing pain so much exept through hitting the barrels. I've got an older gelding with arthritis, but he doesn't show it very much. I can tell more by his weight than how he acts when the arthritis is flaring up. Had another gelding that was still working but coming out of the arena *****d off. Found out he had lots of issues and must have been in excrutiating pain. The tough ones just keep trucking as much as they can and sometimes only show subtle signs of issues.
2. get lessons from a professional. In my experience, it is very, very difficult to change my style of riding from horse to horse. You are working with the muscle memory of your old horse. I see too many people try to ride different horses all the same way and getting very frustrated with the horse. I, too, have been riding and showing horses forever, but life (family, work, etc.) gets in the way and I cannot devote the amount of time compared to someone that can ride lots of different horses every day. If you don't have someone pushing and correcting you, you can develop bad horsemanship habits without realizing. It also helps to have someone watching to tell us what we actually did, not what we thought we did. LOL
Give it time to learn each other also.
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| 100% agree with everyone that says get professional lessons. Not from some yahoo. Someone that is professional with references. |
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Location: Alberta | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-22 1:50 PM Here is a video of the previous owner running her a few days before I picked her up. She doesn't knock the 1st in this video but is there anything you can see that I need to do to keep her going like she is? Anything I am missing? http://youtu.be/S-4_-m5qZC4
There has been a lot of great suggestions and I agree with lessons, what I can tell u I see in this video is a horse that is keeping her hindend engaged under herself, when the hindend is proper the shoulder has no choice but to be correct as well...shouldering issues gets fixed from the back forward. Perhaps (from what your saying) she does require being ridden for each step in the run.....being aware of where are horses bodies are at all speeds is essential, some horses will forgive us and do their job others won't. Best of luck! |
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Location: Illinois | Thank you for all of your suggestions. I have a good friend who was trained by the reinhardts and I have wanted to do one of thier clinice for a long time. I will try and read through everything and get caught up and then start from the beginning. I will also try and get a video this weekend. |
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| ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-23 12:49 PM
Thank you for all of your suggestions. I have a good friend who was trained by the reinhardts and I have wanted to do one of thier clinice for a long time. I will try and read through everything and get caught up and then start from the beginning. I will also try and get a video this weekend.
The rienhardts are WONDERFUL. Talk about getting you motivated. The problem that I have is that they don't have clinics near their home. Go to one of their clinics and it will be money well spent. Besides, you will have a lot of fun.
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Location: Illinois | There closest one to me is 4 hours away but MJ has one that is only about an hour from me. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-23 6:21 PM There closest one to me is 4 hours away but MJ has one that is only about an hour from me.
Personally...I would find someone good to give you a one on one instead of a MJ clinic. JMO |
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Location: Kansas | My horse started to do this at the beginning of this year, also. I had no idea what to do, so I asked several horse friends and fellow barrel racers. Nobody had the solution to our problem. So, we quit barrel racing completely for about a month, then started back with the basics. We also started to make wider pockets. We are now running and communicating the best we ever have. Hope this helps, just remember to take it slow and make sure, while doing slow work, you don't get to close to the barrel (if so, wider pockets). |
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Location: Illinois | Nevertooold - 2014-12-23 6:49 PM
ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-23 6:21 PM There closest one to me is 4 hours away but MJ has one that is only about an hour from me.
Personally...I would find someone good to give you a one on one instead of a MJ clinic. JMO
The problem with this is I have no one to get advice from. I no longer have anyone around me that is super knowledgeable in barrel racing. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | streakysox - 2014-12-22 11:00 PM Look at these schedules and find a clinic near you. Both are excellent and very similar. I have been friends with Martha Josey for MANY years and just attended another clinic there. I live near both (Rienhardt and Josey. ) I see Vickie in the grocery store or Walmart all the time--laughing. If you want to go kick butt, this will be the best money you ever spent. http://www.rienhardtclinics.com/Schedule_2015.html http://barrelracers.com/HOME/Home.html
I agree with the Reinhardt Clinic.....I have helped several times at their clinic.....I see that you live in Illinois. If you can get to Bloomfield, Iowa (May) for that one, I would sign up. It sounds like you NEED someone to actually watch you run the horse. I will give you a "heads up".....If you have any inclination to attend that clinic, get your fees in NOW....it fills up quick. |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | If your wanting ideas on clinics, look at the thread I started about who does decent clinics. It'll give you a decent idea on where to start.  |
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| I also LOVED Ed Wright so if there's one of his clinics anywhere close, it's worth the haul. I learned a TON and it made a HUGE HUGE difference in my riding/pattern. |
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Location: Illinois | I went out and rode today and it went much better with all of your advice! I put her back in the bit her previous owner was running her in and made my pocket a lot smaller. We still kept knocking the first barrel so I took her to the left and we never hit one! I think I just need to learn to stay out of her way and let her do her thing and make sure she doesn't try to turn too soon. Also taking her to the left seemed to help. I am going to keep trying her to the left and see what happens. I am so happy that I got it mostly figured out! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Where do you live in Illinois? |
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Location: Illinois | I live an hour strait east of St louis, MO and a half hour strait west of Effingham, IL right on I-70. Little town called Mulberry Grove. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-27 10:38 AM I live an hour strait east of St louis, MO and a half hour strait west of Effingham, IL right on I-70. Little town called Mulberry Grove.
You are kind of in no man's land.
There was a really neat lady that use to live by Effingham but she was pretty old when I left IL 18 years ago. |
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Location: Illinois | Yeah lol, there is not a lot around me, it is all in MO, IN, or north in IL. I found a martha josey clinic in cloverdale, IN and that is only 2 hous from me. |
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Location: Illinois | I have one more question. Her previous owner rode her in a bonnet and I have been riding her in just a nose tiedown, would that make a difference? |
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| ShortyHorse11 - 2014-12-27 6:19 PM
I have one more question. Her previous owner rode her in a bonnet and I have been riding her in just a nose tiedown, would that make a difference?
IMO, yes. 2 different feels so the horse might respond 2 different ways. |
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