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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:58 AM Anyone know how FloJo is bred?
His registered name is Dat Flowing Bunny, or something like that. | |
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| stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw.
Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. | |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. | |
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   Location: Oklahoma | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:06 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:58 AM Anyone know how FloJo is bred? His registered name is Dat Flowing Bunny, or something like that.
http://www.barrelracingreport.com/issues/8_13_13_BarrelRacingReport_HighRes.pdf
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground.
I agree, it is one thing to be out of the running because you hit or rider error but to have so many lose their opportunity because of the ground is just a shame. | |
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      Location: NE Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground.
Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips. Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt! The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night. The end. | |
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| Makes me so mad when people belittle the kids when they are getting beat by them. I was once that kid that came in and kicked some butt in the 1D. My horse was fantastic and we just clicked and we had an awesome go up through hs. Some people just can't stand being beaten by the young kids. It's just terrible the things what you hear when you are that little when you should be on top of the world but truth is everyone is trying to bring you down. Especially the adults. | |
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| Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. Â The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. Â And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. Â This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. Â There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. Â
Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips.  Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt!  The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night.  The end. Â
My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride. | |
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   Location: OH | My 2 cents worth, which means nothing is that the little girl can ride and stayed centered and let the horse do the job he is trained for. Big Picture---she is a Superstar, this thing could be GREAT for barrel racing as a whole. When has anything about barrel racing or rodeo in general EVER made ESPN. This could be a great thing for our sport that every one of us love or we wouldn't be on here talking about it all the time. | |
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      Location: NE Texas | stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips. Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt! The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night. The end. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride. I'm in total agreement with you, stayceem! That's what makes an elite rodeo horse is that they are able to handle the long miles, different arenas, and still stop the clock on bad ground. The allure of the American is that you don't have to do that. So the fact many of these horses are NOT rodeo horses and have never been exposed to "rodeo" ground makes the conditions Sunday even more treacherous....especially considering the fact that many of these contestants are kids that aren't worldly enough to help their horse when needed.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
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rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
 The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought.  And then the ground for the finals was outstanding.  This weekend's conditions were ridiculous.  There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. Â
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| Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:59 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips. Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt! The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night. The end. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride. I'm in total agreement with you, stayceem! That's what makes an elite rodeo horse is that they are able to handle the long miles, different arenas, and still stop the clock on bad ground. The allure of the American is that you don't have to do that. So the fact many of these horses are NOT rodeo horses and have never been exposed to "rodeo" ground makes the conditions Sunday even more treacherous....especially considering the fact that many of these contestants are kids that aren't worldly enough to help their horse when needed.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
OOOUUCH Herbie! Hopefully it doesnt cause you any dicomfort these days. | |
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   Location: Where the Jasmine & Magnolia Grow | Tatum2 - 2015-02-23 11:21 AM Makes me so mad when people belittle the kids when they are getting beat by them. I was once that kid that came in and kicked some butt in the 1D. My horse was fantastic and we just clicked and we had an awesome go up through hs. Some people just can't stand being beaten by the young kids. It's just terrible the things what you hear when you are that little when you should be on top of the world but truth is everyone is trying to bring you down. Especially the adults.
Been there! Many years ago (my WPRA Card is 3 digits) I will always remember the very 1st Rodeo I entered & the difference in my reception from the older more experienced barrel racers when I was paying my entry fee & then the cold shoulder when I was collecting my check. And to the person that commented you will always remember and feed off it, that's exactly what I did. Won enough $ in 6 weeks to buy my card. But it got down right evil at that point. Asked one of the women that acted like she was my friend, should I buy my card? & she said No, you should buy another permit so you can run wherever you want because once you buy your WPRA card you can't. Didn't realize about the "Rookie" award & just went ahead & bought another permit. Long story short, I filled that 2nd Permit before it even came to me in the mail. Bought my card and eventually was told that the "click" was wanting their friend to win the Circuit Rookie of the Year title. Karma is a b...h and although buying that 2nd permit almost cost me the Rookie title, since the other girl had a good lead on me from the get go, I won it by a mere $125. Also ended up winning the Permit Championship, made the Circuit Finals & placed 2nd in a go and only a downed barrel cost me the Average win. The many valuable lessons I learned in my "Rookie" year, Priceless! | |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | How many of the 30 to make it to the semi finals were under say 16?
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      Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:59 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips. Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt! The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night. The end. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride. I'm in total agreement with you, stayceem! That's what makes an elite rodeo horse is that they are able to handle the long miles, different arenas, and still stop the clock on bad ground. The allure of the American is that you don't have to do that. So the fact many of these horses are NOT rodeo horses and have never been exposed to "rodeo" ground makes the conditions Sunday even more treacherous....especially considering the fact that many of these contestants are kids that aren't worldly enough to help their horse when needed.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
You put this much better than I would've......well said.
'Rodeo ground' should not have been a factor at an event like this.period.end.of.story.
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| Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:59 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips. Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt! The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night. The end. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride. I'm in total agreement with you, stayceem! That's what makes an elite rodeo horse is that they are able to handle the long miles, different arenas, and still stop the clock on bad ground. The allure of the American is that you don't have to do that. So the fact many of these horses are NOT rodeo horses and have never been exposed to "rodeo" ground makes the conditions Sunday even more treacherous....especially considering the fact that many of these contestants are kids that aren't worldly enough to help their horse when needed.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period. Ditto, those top rodeo horses are amazing. Like Herbie said, this was a BBR event plus factor in the opportunity to run for a million dollars, no luck of the draw as to which ground you got should have factored into it at all.
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ksjackofalltrades - 2015-02-23 11:42 AM The ground at the ATT center for the finals last year was not outstanding. There were several horses that didn't like it all.
Not liking it is not the same as trashy. I don't remember anyone slipping or falling--am I not remembering right? | |
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| Kudos to Chayni! She did an awesome job. End of story. I can only wish my daughter will be able to ride like her when she's 9!
On the topic of the ground, I'm not justifying the bad ground, I think they could have done better but, I am wondering if the cowboys in the timed events and contractors had anything to do with it. Good ground for barrel horses is not good ground for rope horses, bucking horse and especially not bulls. I didn't like to buck my horses on the ground I liked to run in at all. It was too deep and I was afraid of them pulling something. I know bull owners don't like "deep" ground either. Because of the way bulls buck, ground that is more suited to barrel racing can cause stifel and shoulder injuries. Team ropers complain if the ground is to deep because their horses have to work extra hard at pulling cattle. The calves and steers have to work harder too. Coming from a contractor and barrel racer's point of view I can see the ground as a catch-22!
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