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Destry Fleming
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-03-06 8:56 PM
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 I'm not trying to tell anyone to say or do,, but I would just like to point out that in only 2 short years "The American" has pumped millions of dollars into cowboy/cowgirl ' s pockets. Have there been some hiccups? Absolutely. But in fairness to the RFD crew I believe they are trying their very best to do what is right for the contestants. C'mon y'all.. there is no where that it's written in stone that they ever even have to do another one. That would be a huge loss to everyone. Being in on the production side of the event I can tell you they are doing their very best to put on a good show and have a huge payout. Let's cut them a little slack. Unless someone else has a few million dollars to throw around. Anyone?? Lol
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-03-06 9:22 PM
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I thought it was a survey to get our opinion?
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Posted 2015-03-06 9:38 PM
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Itsme - 2015-03-06 9:22 PM

I thought it was a survey to get our opinion?

There is an actual survey... this is not a survey.
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
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Itsme - 2015-03-06 9:22 PM

I thought it was a survey to get our opinion?

There is an actual survey... this is not a survey.


God forbid anyone voice their opinion.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-03-07 12:10 AM
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Chandler's Mom - 2015-03-05 9:41 PM
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stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM
scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. 
KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
Actually, KC Jones did in the end get a part of the Million. Randy Barnard was on The American Recap last night on RFD TV and they said he did get to share in the million. Rightfully so! 
So they took part of the million from the other two contestants?

Yes, they took $83k from Price & Reemer and paid KC $283k, which is great.  The founder of RFD-TV wanted to make it right.  Though, I do not understand the math at all.  It seems that 1 million split 3 ways should be about $333k.  Hopefully someone has an explanation this old cowboy can understand! ;-)

I feel for the two that had already counted their money, but it was SO the right thing to do cause KC deserved part of the million.
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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2015-03-07 12:13 AM
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paysonw - 2015-03-06 4:35 PM

stayceem - 2015-03-06 3:25 PM
Just Bring It - 2015-03-06 11:00 AM
paysonw - 2015-03-06 10:54 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-03-05 9:41 PM
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stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM
scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. 
KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
Actually, KC Jones did in the end get a part of the Million. Randy Barnard was on The American Recap last night on RFD TV and they said he did get to share in the million. Rightfully so! 
So they took part of the million from the other two contestants?
Yes, they took $83k from Price & Reemer and paid KC $283k, which is great.  The founder of RFD-TV wanted to make it right.  Though, I do not understand the math at all.  It seems that 1 million split 3 ways should be about $333k.  Hopefully someone has an explanation this old cowboy can understand! ;-)
It was suppose to be $333k? Did they just decide to give him less in an attempt to make everyone happy? The two guys that thought they were getting $500k and KC who thought he was only getting $100k???  
There was a posting from Randy on fb, all parties agree to the amount. The two volunatrily gave up x amount of their winnings and KC agreed to a little less to make it right. The intention of the rules were that he wasnt eligible for the million but due to confusion with the rule, they agreed he should be given a cut. Randy stated the rule was interpreted differently by multiple readers. I would guess they will word it better for next year. I just wana say I think hes gotten a lot of crap thus far... and I wanna give a hand though to dealing with the hostility so professional and doing his best to satisfy everyone. I loved his event and I would hate for him to get discouraged and not produce it anymore!

 This post says he got another $283k so that makes more sense;
Did you hear the news last night on ?#?RFDTV? during ?#?TheAmerican? Wrap-Up Show? KC Jones, who tied for the fastest steer wrestling time in Sunday’s Shootout Round, will be making some more money!
"Unfortunately, there was some confusion with the way the rule was written that made it ambiguous," said Randy Bernard. "RFD-TV is hosting The American to help the sport, not to hurt anybody. We want to do what's right."
After a conference call with everyone involved, it was agree...d that Jones would receive an extra $283,000. Everybody gave up a little money, including KC, to make the agreement work.
 
Good for RFD for trying to make it right!
 

Very cool that they've made an attempt to make things right; I can only see this event getting better.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2015-03-07 12:35 AM
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Itsme - 2015-03-06 9:45 PM

stayceem - 2015-03-06 9:38 PM

Itsme - 2015-03-06 9:22 PM

I thought it was a survey to get our opinion?

There is an actual survey... this is not a survey.


God forbid anyone voice their opinion.

Post away but I think that we also need to look at the positive things the American has done for our sport and the great things it has done. I just know as a producer and seeing so much criticism, would be pretty exhausting.

There is a survey you can take to voice your opinion.
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Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2015-03-07 10:16 AM
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-06 8:56 PM  I'm not trying to tell anyone to say or do,, but I would just like to point out that in only 2 short years "The American" has pumped millions of dollars into cowboy/cowgirl ' s pockets. Have there been some hiccups? Absolutely. But in fairness to the RFD crew I believe they are trying their very best to do what is right for the contestants. C'mon y'all.. there is no where that it's written in stone that they ever even have to do another one. That would be a huge loss to everyone. Being in on the production side of the event I can tell you they are doing their very best to put on a good show and have a huge payout. Let's cut them a little slack. Unless someone else has a few million dollars to throw around. Anyone?? Lol

^^^^^^
Thankyou...well said....focus on the good.
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Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-03-07 10:50 AM
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ridejg - 2015-03-07 10:16 AM
Destry Fleming - 2015-03-06 8:56 PM  I'm not trying to tell anyone to say or do,, but I would just like to point out that in only 2 short years "The American" has pumped millions of dollars into cowboy/cowgirl ' s pockets. Have there been some hiccups? Absolutely. But in fairness to the RFD crew I believe they are trying their very best to do what is right for the contestants. C'mon y'all.. there is no where that it's written in stone that they ever even have to do another one. That would be a huge loss to everyone. Being in on the production side of the event I can tell you they are doing their very best to put on a good show and have a huge payout. Let's cut them a little slack. Unless someone else has a few million dollars to throw around. Anyone?? Lol
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Thankyou...well said....focus on the good.

Destry you have posted this twice admonishing people for voicing their opinions....so I will post mine here........

 I see this discussion as this and for what it is worth……EVERY rodeo committee can make their rodeo better….how….by actually listening to the contestants and spectators that have a knowledge of rodeo.  This rodeo is a great concept and can surely get bigger and better. The “kinks” that have been pointed out such as ground conditions in the semi final events, rules that are vague (K.C.), and rules that were ignored (PBR rule of soaking the bulls) can only help to make it better.  
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Destry Fleming
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-03-07 11:48 AM
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I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.
I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.




 
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-07 12:18 PM
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 9:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 

What has been accomplished in two years is amazing.    As the growing pains arise they seem to be getting addressed.  This is all that we can ask for as knowledable fans of the sport we love.  I am sure we all can agree we want to see this succeed.
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-03-07 12:43 PM
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fatchance - 2015-03-07 12:18 PM
Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 9:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 
What has been accomplished in two years is amazing.    As the growing pains arise they seem to be getting addressed.  This is all that we can ask for as knowledable fans of the sport we love.  I am sure we all can agree we want to see this succeed.

I agree...I would love to see this succeed with the kinks taken out and if everyone sat back and didn't say anything nothing would change. The complaints will make it a bigger and better venue if they are looked at and addressed. 
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-03-07 2:39 PM
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 11:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 

Did the BBR not handle the barrel race and the ground this year? 
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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-07 2:56 PM
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 11:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 

Thank you!!!

Drives me crazy to see so much focus on a few hiccups and growing pains.  This is an INCREDIBLE event!!!  I don't see any of the contestants whining..... 

 
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Destry Fleming
Reg. Mar 2004
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 11:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 
Did the BBR not handle the barrel race and the ground this year? 

We did the barrel race, but had to use RFD's ground crew.  So yes and no.   
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 11:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 
Did the BBR not handle the barrel race and the ground this year? 
We did the barrel race, but had to use RFD's ground crew.  So yes and no.   

Thank you 
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Reg. Apr 2005
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The American is an incredible event for the participants. Wow... $$$$$$. And I love the fact it allows those who cannot "go" full-time the opportunity to win some big money in a huge spotlight. This is the type of event that can (and will) attract more participants and fans into the sport..... and it is extremely impressive to see the list of sponsors who lined up for this event. Polaris has been wonderful and there is no doubt they will reap rewards for their support of rodeo. Loved seeing so many young folks in the qualifying events - and in the American. They are the future.

And I very much enjoyed watching it on TV -- and hope to attend next year's event in person. Love having the final four shoot-out. Very exciting.

It is a new event so there are growing pains, but I believe RFD-TV is committed to doing the right thing. Nothing and nobody are perfect.

It's pretty amazing how the PBR has become such a beloved sport with many non-rodeo fans. And, now we have the American showcasing "everyday" folks who participate and can get a piece of a million dollars. Wow.... pretty cool beans.
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Posted 2015-03-08 10:25 AM
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Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 4:13 PM
SG. - 2015-03-07 2:39 PM
Destry Fleming - 2015-03-07 11:48 AM I will agree with everything you have said. I will also go a step further and say that we have already been in discussions with RFD about the ground conditions at the Semi's.  They actually asked us for help for next year if they have another one.

I didn't mean to admonish anyone, that certainly wasn't my intention.  I know it's easy to watch something on TV (or even in person) and pick it to pieces.  I just don't want people to loose sight of how much money the American has put in cowboys pockets in the last 2 years.  It would be a shame for them to not decided to fool with it anymore.  That's all.








 
Did the BBR not handle the barrel race and the ground this year? 
We did the barrel race, but had to use RFD's ground crew.  So yes and no.   

SMH........So are you really saying that the BBR had NO "input" on the ground conditions? 
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Reg. Feb 2005
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 RFDTV is replaying The American right now!
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Reg. Nov 2005
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Coming for the mother of a contestant:  This is an amazing event.  (Contestants receive many "gifts" that I am sure the general public are not aware of).  Thank you for the great oppurtunity RFD TV and BBR!!  My only wish is that for an event of this magnitude the payout went further down at the finals not to just the top two.  Our personal experience is the that everyone went out of their way to make it a pleasant experience and tried to help you in any way possible.
Thanks again.  The Nevala's,
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