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           Location: Florida.. | SKM - 2015-07-10 7:46 AM Come on people. Think about it. Many groups are wanting tie down to go the way of steer tripping. Tie down ropers are under a microscope. He was stupid. A quick WHACK WHACK probably would have been fine. It was the WHACK WHACK WHACK WHACK WHACK WHACK that got him in trouble. If a horses running stride is 22-24' and he hit that horse for 3-5 strides, that's roughly 66' to 110'. That's almost the length of some pens if you include the length of the score. No tie down roper can whip that far and get a loop on one. Again, what he did was excessive. As for the comparison to barrel racers whipping...I doubt many woman barrel racers have his strength. Nor do the use what amounts to a doubled over, thicker and heavier rope. But if they are whipping to the extent he was, have his strength and with the same type of material...then maybe they shouldn't be allowed to whip either. I have NEVER seen a barrel racer whip a horse as hard and fast as he did. Whip one, yes. But not like he did. I agree . he was wound to tight to begin with imo..pressure got to him and hes professional enough to know better.I dont think anyone will think to harsh on him.. we all have been there in his shoes with pressure.. and I dont think he will lose respect.. but I would think he will think it over.Horse cheated him no doubt.. but there are some things you just need to keep under control.. in circumstances and this was one of those times..once or twice maybe he would have gotten away with but not constant. .
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        Location: CTX | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-07-10 9:01 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-07-10 8:57 AM Herbie - 2015-07-10 8:31 AM DunIt - 2015-07-10 7:56 AM Still dont think its as damaging to the sport of rodeo as the viral video of the threesome! I saw that on instagram and am dying to know who the "bull riders" were. In the words of the great poet Ron Burgundy, "Stay classy, CS!". LOL I saw that picture, what a lovely group. She looks like a hoooooooser
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| I find the pictures of girls kicking their horses so hard that are almost doing the splits much more disturbing than what Tuff did. How do we know that horse hasn't been scotching on him in previous runs? He could take him to the practice pen but he may not have had time with the July 4th runs just over. I see both sides and understand what is at stake for the càlf ropers, though. They are under more pressure from outsiders and even from insiders. |
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      Location: Alberta | I am a committee member for one of the other livestock events at the Stampede and they are REALLY enforcing rules and standards around all aspects of animal safety on park not just rodeo and chuck wagons.
The have implemented a new animal safety and welfare program that is top notch and you better believe there are always "people" watching whether at the shows/competitions, in the barns, at the exhibits and demonstrations and right down to informal inspections as animals are being unloaded on park. They want to ensure that if there is any cause for concern regarding an animals health or well being that it is addressed properly, efficiently and by professionals.
There are over 1.1million people who pass through those gates every year not to mention the thousands if not millions that are watching on tv and livestream. If you want to participate with your animals at "the greatest outdoor show on earth" you better be held to a certain standard and put all these sports best face forward to the general public. When an incident happens within one of the livestock competitions at the Stampede and it makes headlines across the world its certainly felt by all other groups participating at the Stampede and we all feel the pressure to be on our A game at all times. But if we want agriculture and livestock to continue to be seen and appreciated in a day and age where most view us as a bunch of redneck hillbillies that need to get with the times then large scale events such as the Stampede need to crack down on every little incident that happens and unfortunately sometimes they need to make examples of people!
I think instead of criticizing the Stampede for the decision they made to DQ Tuff we as fellow rodeo competitors, livestock exhibitors or animal enthusiasts need to applaud them for the millions of dollars they spend every year trying their ****edest to prove to the world that agriculture and livestock still have a real purpose and they stand behind our heritage and traditions no matter who disapproves with what we do!!
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      Location: The edge of no where | CEFERG - 2015-07-10 9:57 AM I am a committee member for one of the other livestock events at the Stampede and they are REALLY enforcing rules and standards around all aspects of animal safety on park not just rodeo and chuck wagons. The have implemented a new animal safety and welfare program that is top notch and you better believe there are always "people" watching whether at the shows/competitions, in the barns, at the exhibits and demonstrations and right down to informal inspections as animals are being unloaded on park. They want to ensure that if there is any cause for concern regarding an animals health or well being that it is addressed properly, efficiently and by professionals. There are over 1.1million people who pass through those gates every year not to mention the thousands if not millions that are watching on tv and livestream. If you want to participate with your animals at "the greatest outdoor show on earth" you better be held to a certain standard and put all these sports best face forward to the general public. When an incident happens within one of the livestock competitions at the Stampede and it makes headlines across the world its certainly felt by all other groups participating at the Stampede and we all feel the pressure to be on our A game at all times. But if we want agriculture and livestock to continue to be seen and appreciated in a day and age where most view us as a bunch of redneck hillbillies that need to get with the times then large scale events such as the Stampede need to crack down on every little incident that happens and unfortunately sometimes they need to make examples of people! I think instead of criticizing the Stampede for the decision they made to DQ Tuff we as fellow rodeo competitors, livestock exhibitors or animal enthusiasts need to applaud them for the millions of dollars they spend every year trying their ****edest to prove to the world that agriculture and livestock still have a real purpose and they stand behind our heritage and traditions no matter who disapproves with what we do!!
      Very well said. Thank you guys for what you do for the sport of rodeo! Great job. |
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        Location: CTX | GLP - 2015-07-10 9:39 AM I find the pictures of girls kicking their horses so hard that are almost doing the splits much more disturbing than what Tuff did. How do we know that horse hasn't been scotching on him in previous runs? He could take him to the practice pen but he may not have had time with the July 4th runs just over. I see both sides and understand what is at stake for the càlf ropers, though. They are under more pressure from outsiders and even from insiders.
Those pics make me crinch too... What about the ones where there is over a foot of air inbetween a butt and the saddle??? Imagine the landing.... although that is not always voluntary.... some horses can really launch a person.... Now, was it really neccesary for him to whack the horse 6-7 times? I don't know.... Maybe it was frustration, in that case I really don't mind him being DQ'ed. This was not his first rodeo, and by now he should know taking your frustration out on a horse will never help the situation.... Maybe the horse really needed it..... anyway, until he speaks out about it we will never know for sure. He is a proffesional, and has to act like it, camera's and spectators around or not..... |
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     Location: Lala Land | CEFERG - 2015-07-10 9:57 AM
I am a committee member for one of the other livestock events at the Stampede and they are REALLY enforcing rules and standards around all aspects of animal safety on park not just rodeo and chuck wagons.
The have implemented a new animal safety and welfare program that is top notch and you better believe there are always "people" watching whether at the shows/competitions, in the barns, at the exhibits and demonstrations and right down to informal inspections as animals are being unloaded on park. They want to ensure that if there is any cause for concern regarding an animals health or well being that it is addressed properly, efficiently and by professionals.
There are over 1.1million people who pass through those gates every year not to mention the thousands if not millions that are watching on tv and livestream. If you want to participate with your animals at "the greatest outdoor show on earth" you better be held to a certain standard and put all these sports best face forward to the general public. When an incident happens within one of the livestock competitions at the Stampede and it makes headlines across the world its certainly felt by all other groups participating at the Stampede and we all feel the pressure to be on our A game at all times. But if we want agriculture and livestock to continue to be seen and appreciated in a day and age where most view us as a bunch of redneck hillbillies that need to get with the times then large scale events such as the Stampede need to crack down on every little incident that happens and unfortunately sometimes they need to make examples of people!
I think instead of criticizing the Stampede for the decision they made to DQ Tuff we as fellow rodeo competitors, livestock exhibitors or animal enthusiasts need to applaud them for the millions of dollars they spend every year trying their ****edest to prove to the world that agriculture and livestock still have a real purpose and they stand behind our heritage and traditions no matter who disapproves with what we do!!
Thanks for the response! I honestly think that enforcing your rules is not wrong, but if they make an example of one person and do not follow through with others.. that would make it wrong. I don't think that's what is being done, just an example. Funny how people aren't up in arms about Callie being DQ'd as well. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | Lovin Life - 2015-07-10 10:06 AM CEFERG - 2015-07-10 9:57 AM I am a committee member for one of the other livestock events at the Stampede and they are REALLY enforcing rules and standards around all aspects of animal safety on park not just rodeo and chuck wagons. The have implemented a new animal safety and welfare program that is top notch and you better believe there are always "people" watching whether at the shows/competitions, in the barns, at the exhibits and demonstrations and right down to informal inspections as animals are being unloaded on park. They want to ensure that if there is any cause for concern regarding an animals health or well being that it is addressed properly, efficiently and by professionals. There are over 1.1million people who pass through those gates every year not to mention the thousands if not millions that are watching on tv and livestream. If you want to participate with your animals at "the greatest outdoor show on earth" you better be held to a certain standard and put all these sports best face forward to the general public. When an incident happens within one of the livestock competitions at the Stampede and it makes headlines across the world its certainly felt by all other groups participating at the Stampede and we all feel the pressure to be on our A game at all times. But if we want agriculture and livestock to continue to be seen and appreciated in a day and age where most view us as a bunch of redneck hillbillies that need to get with the times then large scale events such as the Stampede need to crack down on every little incident that happens and unfortunately sometimes they need to make examples of people! I think instead of criticizing the Stampede for the decision they made to DQ Tuff we as fellow rodeo competitors, livestock exhibitors or animal enthusiasts need to applaud them for the millions of dollars they spend every year trying their ****edest to prove to the world that agriculture and livestock still have a real purpose and they stand behind our heritage and traditions no matter who disapproves with what we do!! Thanks for the response! I honestly think that enforcing your rules is not wrong, but if they make an example of one person and do not follow through with others.. that would make it wrong. I don't think that's what is being done, just an example. Funny how people aren't up in arms about Callie being DQ'd as well.
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EXACTLY !!!! Thanks for the response. Additionally, I have been in the security trailer at Cheyenne and I will tell you that they can SEE everything going on in THAT park! |
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           Location: Florida.. | CEFERG - 2015-07-10 10:57 AM I am a committee member for one of the other livestock events at the Stampede and they are REALLY enforcing rules and standards around all aspects of animal safety on park not just rodeo and chuck wagons. The have implemented a new animal safety and welfare program that is top notch and you better believe there are always "people" watching whether at the shows/competitions, in the barns, at the exhibits and demonstrations and right down to informal inspections as animals are being unloaded on park. They want to ensure that if there is any cause for concern regarding an animals health or well being that it is addressed properly, efficiently and by professionals. There are over 1.1million people who pass through those gates every year not to mention the thousands if not millions that are watching on tv and livestream. If you want to participate with your animals at "the greatest outdoor show on earth" you better be held to a certain standard and put all these sports best face forward to the general public. When an incident happens within one of the livestock competitions at the Stampede and it makes headlines across the world its certainly felt by all other groups participating at the Stampede and we all feel the pressure to be on our A game at all times. But if we want agriculture and livestock to continue to be seen and appreciated in a day and age where most view us as a bunch of redneck hillbillies that need to get with the times then large scale events such as the Stampede need to crack down on every little incident that happens and unfortunately sometimes they need to make examples of people! I think instead of criticizing the Stampede for the decision they made to DQ Tuff we as fellow rodeo competitors, livestock exhibitors or animal enthusiasts need to applaud them for the millions of dollars they spend every year trying their ****edest to prove to the world that agriculture and livestock still have a real purpose and they stand behind our heritage and traditions no matter who disapproves with what we do!!
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | blccwgl55 - 2015-07-10 9:26 AM I think they're saying that the video of him doing this wasn't a big deal compared to the videos of porn out there that's "acceptable". Lol. I think that's what they meant?? Idk. Haha ETA: I didn't really think there was a threesome recorded at the stampede or anything. I didn't know what the DL was. Lol Oh - but there was a threesome in broad open daylight recorded by someone at calgary - google calgary stampede threesome if you care to see it.     WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK - AND PLEASE NOT WHILE YOUNG EYES ARE AROUND TO SEE THE SCREEN.
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    Location: wherever my daughter's running | barrelracr131 - 2015-07-10 11:51 AM I don't recommend watching that video unless you have an eye wash handy for after.
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    Location: Midwest | TrailGirl - 2015-07-10 11:06 AM So I'm guessing its NSFW?  Yikes. I'll stick with watching the traditional rodeo events!
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        Location: North of the 49th Parallel | What did they fine Sarah Rose with? I heard she got fined for something after her run |
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