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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-07-30 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: Cecil the Lion



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Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 6:21 PM
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Herbie - 2015-07-30 11:00 AM I don't understand why our society is so concerned over something that happened in another country that is obviously the fault of the guides who issued the hunt.  My boss goes on big hunts like this all the time.  He flies in, hunts, and flies out.  It's the job of the guide to find the animal and say yay or nay.  What kills me is we have people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for this lion situation.  What will that money go toward???  All the while the victims and their families of the incident in Chattanooga gun unnoticed.  How is it that the lion is more important than our heroes being slaughtered on our home soil?  What about the guy who shot up the movie theatre last week?  What about the families of those victims?  One day reporting on this type stuff that is happening RIGHT HERE, and yet people are outraged over a lion that was shot by a wealthy American on foreign soil, and was guided by locals who should know what is ok to shoot and what is not.  Our priorities are so screwed up in this country that it's truly frightening.   
You are comparing apples to oranges here.. Which is to say you are comparing two thing not related. Let me do the same to you. You and a whole bunch of other people here were all up in arms when Credit Card was stolen and butchered. Yet those abortions were still going on... Cecil was just as much a national icon there as American Pharoah is here... Can you imagine if someone were to poach American Pharoah out of his pasture? Would you be squawking about that or would you be objecting this news event was getting more attention than abortion?
If you told me they were setting Credit Card's killer free in return for locking up these human butchers, I'd be just fine with it. 
Well this is just another point we do not agree on. If I had a choice between reading about doctor assisted abortion or going back to reading about back-alley/clothes-hanger abortions.... I know which one I'd pick..
After these latest stories, the world can no longer convince themselves that doctors are removing inviable tissue mass.  They are tearing apart arms, legs, spines and crushing skulls.  Stopping developed hearts and selling livers and kidneys.

I rather not read about any abortion.  I don't care whether the instrument of death was a clothes hanger, a scalpal, suction or pliers.   



 

Well.. you can go ahead and stick your head in the sand as deep as you want.... This was going on long before.... even antibiotics.... If someone wants it bad enough... they will get it....
This is all about religion.... Well I have news for you.... There are a whole bunch of people out there that will die before they answer to your God... Just like they will die before they will answer to Allah.

This country was based, (in part) on freedom of religion... and freedom not to have to answer to it... Enough people were burned at the stake for heresy they got tired of it!!
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-30 6:26 PM
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komet. - 2015-07-30 6:21 PM

TXBO - 2015-07-30 4:48 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 4:37 PM
TXBO - 2015-07-30 4:23 PM
komet. - 2015-07-30 4:15 PM
Herbie - 2015-07-30 11:00 AM I don't understand why our society is so concerned over something that happened in another country that is obviously the fault of the guides who issued the hunt.  My boss goes on big hunts like this all the time.  He flies in, hunts, and flies out.  It's the job of the guide to find the animal and say yay or nay.  What kills me is we have people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for this lion situation.  What will that money go toward???  All the while the victims and their families of the incident in Chattanooga gun unnoticed.  How is it that the lion is more important than our heroes being slaughtered on our home soil?  What about the guy who shot up the movie theatre last week?  What about the families of those victims?  One day reporting on this type stuff that is happening RIGHT HERE, and yet people are outraged over a lion that was shot by a wealthy American on foreign soil, and was guided by locals who should know what is ok to shoot and what is not.  Our priorities are so screwed up in this country that it's truly frightening.   
You are comparing apples to oranges here.. Which is to say you are comparing two thing not related. Let me do the same to you. You and a whole bunch of other people here were all up in arms when Credit Card was stolen and butchered. Yet those abortions were still going on... Cecil was just as much a national icon there as American Pharoah is here... Can you imagine if someone were to poach American Pharoah out of his pasture? Would you be squawking about that or would you be objecting this news event was getting more attention than abortion?
If you told me they were setting Credit Card's killer free in return for locking up these human butchers, I'd be just fine with it. 
Well this is just another point we do not agree on. If I had a choice between reading about doctor assisted abortion or going back to reading about back-alley/clothes-hanger abortions.... I know which one I'd pick..
After these latest stories, the world can no longer convince themselves that doctors are removing inviable tissue mass.  They are tearing apart arms, legs, spines and crushing skulls.  Stopping developed hearts and selling livers and kidneys.

I rather not read about any abortion.  I don't care whether the instrument of death was a clothes hanger, a scalpal, suction or pliers.   



 

Well.. you can go ahead and stick your head in the sand as deep as you want.... This was going on long before.... even antibiotics.... If someone wants it bad enough... they will get it....
This is all about religion.... Well I have news for you.... There are a whole bunch of people out there that will die before they answer to your God... Just like they will die before they will answer to Allah.

This country was based, (in part) on freedom of religion... and freedom not to have to answer to it... Enough people were burned at the stake for heresy they got tired of it!!

More flight of ideas today, Komet?
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 6:27 PM
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Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

I'm sorry... Can you point me toward proof that money changed hands except for this edited video?. Got receipts? Proof of money transfers? ANYTHING??? I promise the feds want to see it.
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 6:30 PM
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Bear - 2015-07-30 6:26 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 6:21 PM

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komet. - 2015-07-30 4:37 PM
TXBO - 2015-07-30 4:23 PM
komet. - 2015-07-30 4:15 PM
Herbie - 2015-07-30 11:00 AM I don't understand why our society is so concerned over something that happened in another country that is obviously the fault of the guides who issued the hunt.  My boss goes on big hunts like this all the time.  He flies in, hunts, and flies out.  It's the job of the guide to find the animal and say yay or nay.  What kills me is we have people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for this lion situation.  What will that money go toward???  All the while the victims and their families of the incident in Chattanooga gun unnoticed.  How is it that the lion is more important than our heroes being slaughtered on our home soil?  What about the guy who shot up the movie theatre last week?  What about the families of those victims?  One day reporting on this type stuff that is happening RIGHT HERE, and yet people are outraged over a lion that was shot by a wealthy American on foreign soil, and was guided by locals who should know what is ok to shoot and what is not.  Our priorities are so screwed up in this country that it's truly frightening.   
You are comparing apples to oranges here.. Which is to say you are comparing two thing not related. Let me do the same to you. You and a whole bunch of other people here were all up in arms when Credit Card was stolen and butchered. Yet those abortions were still going on... Cecil was just as much a national icon there as American Pharoah is here... Can you imagine if someone were to poach American Pharoah out of his pasture? Would you be squawking about that or would you be objecting this news event was getting more attention than abortion?
If you told me they were setting Credit Card's killer free in return for locking up these human butchers, I'd be just fine with it. 
Well this is just another point we do not agree on. If I had a choice between reading about doctor assisted abortion or going back to reading about back-alley/clothes-hanger abortions.... I know which one I'd pick..
After these latest stories, the world can no longer convince themselves that doctors are removing inviable tissue mass.  They are tearing apart arms, legs, spines and crushing skulls.  Stopping developed hearts and selling livers and kidneys.

I rather not read about any abortion.  I don't care whether the instrument of death was a clothes hanger, a scalpal, suction or pliers.   



 

Well.. you can go ahead and stick your head in the sand as deep as you want.... This was going on long before.... even antibiotics.... If someone wants it bad enough... they will get it....
This is all about religion.... Well I have news for you.... There are a whole bunch of people out there that will die before they answer to your God... Just like they will die before they will answer to Allah.

This country was based, (in part) on freedom of religion... and freedom not to have to answer to it... Enough people were burned at the stake for heresy they got tired of it!!

More flight of ideas today, Komet?

That's how this country was founded sir.... Asking question and standing up when suitable/believable answers were not forthcoming...
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-07-30 6:31 PM
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How did this thread go from lions to cops to abortion?
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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-07-30 6:31 PM
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 Funny how the people in Zimbabwe have no idea who Cecil is. To them he is simply another danger in their world. Sure wish this much attention and money was given to the starving children there. Zimbabwe is known for its corrupt government. They seriously don't care about another dead lion.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-30 6:32 PM
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komet. - 2015-07-30 6:27 PM

Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

I'm sorry... Can you point me toward proof that money changed hands except for this edited video?. Got receipts? Proof of money transfers? ANYTHING??? I promise the feds want to see it.

Irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-30 6:34 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2015-07-30 6:31 PM

How did this thread go from lions to cops to abortion?

....to Allah......to burning at the stake.....to American Pharoah......to the Chicago Cubs......to Haldol.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-07-30 6:36 PM
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Bear - 2015-07-30 6:34 PM

barrelracr131 - 2015-07-30 6:31 PM

How did this thread go from lions to cops to abortion?

....to Allah......to burning at the stake.....to American Pharoah......to the Chicago Cubs......to Haldol.

Yall are crazy. lol
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geronabean
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-07-30 6:47 PM
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There are only a limited amount of causes I can support in my busy self absored life.
If I comment on one in that doesnt mean I dont care about others.
With that disclaimer I will say:
Drop the dentist off in the middle of the reserve for a little lion payback.

Oh and one more thing...
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Edited by geronabean 2015-07-30 6:49 PM
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Posted 2015-07-30 6:49 PM
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 7:01 PM
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I don't understand why our society is so concerned over something that happened in another country that is obviously the fault of the guides who issued the hunt.  My boss goes on big hunts like this all the time.  He flies in, hunts, and flies out.  It's the job of the guide to find the animal and say yay or nay.  What kills me is we have people raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for this lion situation.  What will that money go toward???  All the while the victims and their families of the incident in Chattanooga gun unnoticed.  How is it that the lion is more important than our heroes being slaughtered on our home soil?  What about the guy who shot up the movie theatre last week?  What about the families of those victims?  One day reporting on this type stuff that is happening RIGHT HERE, and yet people are outraged over a lion that was shot by a wealthy American on foreign soil, and was guided by locals who should know what is ok to shoot and what is not.  Our priorities are so screwed up in this country that it's truly frightening.   

You are comparing apples to oranges here.. Which is to say you are comparing two thing not related. Let me do the same to you.
You and a whole bunch of other people here were all up in arms when Credit Card was stolen and butchered. Yet those abortions were still going on...
Cecil was just as much a national icon there as American Pharoah is here...
Can you imagine if someone were to poach American Pharoah out of his pasture? Would you be squawking about that or would you be objecting this news event was getting more attention than abortion?


I don't think this was comparing apples to oranges at all.....every word spoken was the truth. If the other countries put as much weight into American Pharoah being hunted and killed as we are into Cecil, then you might have an argument. I think you missed the point of this post completely. The point being made is that Cecil the lion (while very sad and unjust) is receiving far more attention and concern and outrage than the 5 soldiers we lost a couple weeks ago......far more concern and outrage than the evidence of babies being taken apart piece by piece. The outrage is misguided. Don't get me wrong, I was incredibly saddened to hear of Cecil's demise........I just wish people would put this much energy into the problems we face everyday in America.

4 Marines and a Sailor were killed.. NOT 5 Soldiers... Maybe you should pay more attention to the facts and the news.. The man that killed them is dead... Killed by police. What is left to debate? Gun Control?
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 7:02 PM
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Why don't you go back to The Onion and leave us alone?
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 7:05 PM
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Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

I'm sorry... Can you point me toward proof that money changed hands except for this edited video?. Got receipts? Proof of money transfers? ANYTHING??? I promise the feds want to see it.

Irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.

I've noticed how much you like to ignore facts that don't align themselves with your point of view... Thus they become irrelevant.

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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-30 7:10 PM
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geronabean - 2015-07-30 6:47 PM There are only a limited amount of causes I can support in my busy self absored life.

If I comment on one in that doesnt mean I dont care about others.

With that disclaimer I will say:

Drop the dentist off in the middle of the reserve for a little lion payback.



Oh and one more thing...

Antiwrinkle, anti puffy eye cream IS THE BIGGEST RIP OFF KNOWN TO MAN.

 I love your posts...
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-30 7:10 PM
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komet. - 2015-07-30 7:05 PM

Bear - 2015-07-30 6:32 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 6:27 PM

Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

I'm sorry... Can you point me toward proof that money changed hands except for this edited video?. Got receipts? Proof of money transfers? ANYTHING??? I promise the feds want to see it.

Irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.

I've noticed how much you like to ignore facts that don't align themselves with your point of view... Thus they become irrelevant.


How is my calling your statement irrelevant considered "ignoring the facts"?
Care to explain? What "facts" am I ignoring?



Edited by Bear 2015-07-30 7:12 PM
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 7:17 PM
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Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

So.... all the citizens and members of the armed forces of the United States killed outside of the USA after 1945, since they didn't happen here... We should do nothing?
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-07-30 7:20 PM
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Bear - 2015-07-30 7:10 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 7:05 PM

Bear - 2015-07-30 6:32 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 6:27 PM

Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

I'm sorry... Can you point me toward proof that money changed hands except for this edited video?. Got receipts? Proof of money transfers? ANYTHING??? I promise the feds want to see it.

Irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.

I've noticed how much you like to ignore facts that don't align themselves with your point of view... Thus they become irrelevant.


How is my calling your statement irrelevant considered "ignoring the facts"?
Care to explain? What "facts" am I ignoring?


Sorry... I misspoke... I should have called it "lack of facts"... since all we have is an edited video from an anti-abortion group.. I'll say it ONE more time... If they felt the need to edited that video.. there has to be something they don't want us to hear...
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-07-30 7:21 PM
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Bear - 2015-07-30 7:10 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 7:05 PM

Bear - 2015-07-30 6:32 PM

komet. - 2015-07-30 6:27 PM

Delta Cowgirl - 2015-07-30 6:17 PM

Since the lion was not killed on US soil, what US laws can be applied? If he brought the remains to the US does that open the door for US law?

I am sad so many are so upset about the lion's death yet not as upset about the horrid actions by Planned Parenthood selling fetus parts and pieces. That reeks to me of the holocaust when Nazis were experimenting on live humans and using body parts for experiments.... very disturbing.

I'm sorry... Can you point me toward proof that money changed hands except for this edited video?. Got receipts? Proof of money transfers? ANYTHING??? I promise the feds want to see it.

Irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned.

I've noticed how much you like to ignore facts that don't align themselves with your point of view... Thus they become irrelevant.


How is my calling your statement irrelevant considered "ignoring the facts"?
Care to explain? What "facts" am I ignoring?


Still waiting for your answer, Huey.
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