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| Had to care for a horse for a friend that was injured at a race. Friend and another girl who was her friend were competing at the last show of the season. Other girl's father came up when friend was unloading her her and "helped" by opening the back door before she could get the horse untied. He knew better. Horse backed up and slipped off and hit the end of the rope. Back leg went under the trailer. Came out of it with torn tendons and visible bone. Horse was only 4 or 5 and just starting. Friend no longer races and horse is terrified of trailers. |
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| Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 7:29 PM
 Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...   Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe.Â
It always amazes me how the general public puts those NFR people on a pedestal. While some are very nice and down to earth, others... not so much. Then when someone makes a sort of negative comment, people come unglued defending these superstars. There was a post here last year asking who you would like to travel with for a week to learn from. I'm reading the names going nice, slut, abuser, b!tch, nice, needle queen, nice. I'm really sorry you went through that with your nice mare. People really suck at times. |
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Location: London Ontario | WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!! |
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Location: CTX | MC1993 - 2015-10-02 7:21 AM WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!!
I know, right!! Now I am curious too!!
I understand they can't all be goody 2 shoes, but to get to that level you would at least care about animals enough not to want to hurt them, even if it wasn't your own..... |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-10-01 7:50 PM
Karlaw - 2015-10-01 1:54 PM
I heard about this, pathetic what they will do & they are NFR qualifiers that people think are the most amazing people. Just imagine what they give their own horses to work.
As for the horse who had cocaine added to its water.... there was a very well known Futurity rider whos horse overdosed and died from Coke.....he gives it to his horses to make them "perform" better.
Well I can promise you that we didn't give our already hot headed mare cocainel.... LOL, We don't need to cheat to win at 4H shows. Children are encouraged to do this stuff which is just awful.
Its really sad what people will do. I have NEVER had anything like this happen & the worst I have heard about here was people un-tying horses from trailers but I did buy the baby monitors with video on them so I can put it in his stall and watch mine all night, it was more for my piece of mind as I am up with every little sound I hear. |
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| cowgirl_3207 - 2015-09-30 1:25 PM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-09-30 8:33 AM Bear - 2015-09-30 11:11 AM What do you mean by sabotage? Like drugging a horse or something like that? We had someone put cocaine in my horse's water and feed bucket one time.... It's no joke. Pretty awful what some people will do to winning horses. ummmm good thing you caught that....that would of been one WILD ride lmao.
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| cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-02 7:28 AM
MC1993 - 2015-10-02 7:21 AM WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!!
I know, right!! Now I am curious too!!Â
I understand they can't all be goody 2 shoes, but to get to that level you would at least care about animals enough not to want to hurt them, even if it wasn't your own..... Â
Nope, to some of them they are just a means to an end. It's the game they love, not the animals. I am by no means saying they are all like that, but as in society, there always a few that are in it for themselves only. |
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Location: Paradise , tx | hlynn - 2015-09-30 9:52 PM How to prevent sabotage? Easy. Stay in the 3/4D. No one gives a snot about the not so fast weekend warriors. No need to camp out when no one even knows your name!! Seriously though. People need to get the heck out of competition if cheating is their only way of winning. And most arenas I've been to have a rule against padlocks on stalls with horses in them. You can lock your tack stall but no locks on horse stalls. At least that's what I've been told.
Or just compete locally.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | SKM - 2015-10-02 5:09 AM Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 7:29 PM Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well... Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. It always amazes me how the general public puts those NFR people on a pedestal. While some are very nice and down to earth, others... not so much. Then when someone makes a sort of negative comment, people come unglued defending these superstars. There was a post here last year asking who you would like to travel with for a week to learn from. I'm reading the names going nice, slut, abuser, b!tch, nice, needle queen, nice. I'm really sorry you went through that with your nice mare. People really suck at times.
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | crapshooter - 2015-09-30 2:35 PM
MC1993 - 2015-09-30 10:06 AM We have two German Shepherds. My female comes with me everywhere, like never leaves my side...even when I want to pee...annoying BUT she will rip your face off if she needs too. She is the most protective dog I have ever had. She is amazing with kids, horses and other dogs, but is very sensitive to the environment and my energy - as corny as that sounds. If I ever feel threatened or scared, she is right there looking out for me. We had a drunk guy try to get in our trailer one night thinking it was his, thank god I was still awake and was able to call her off before she did any damage to the guy, but heaven knows she would have. Our dogs have an on/off switch from aggressive to normal and use it when we need them too. When we aren't at our trailer, but cant take our dogs with us, we leave them on a very long tie out. The hubby is also a mechanic so can mess with your truck and trailer without you knowing....thankfully he never would...but can:) A long tie out on a dog (especially a breed like a GSD, Rottweiler, Pit, etc) and is described by it's owner as you just described your dog is a lawsuit waiting to happen.  If she ever does bite anyone and you've left her tied to your trailer you are going to get your ass sued off. Plus what if someone is just walking by your rig? I've been bit at a rodeo by a dog tied to a trailer that came out of nowhere, I was just walking by close to the trailer.Â
eta: turner1 pushed me in front of that dog to save herself!  Â
I'm all for the protection of a dog but it's a pet peeve when I walk my dog, who also protects me, past other trailers so she can do her 'business' and I'm minding my own as well and I get 'attacked'. |
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Location: CTX | GLP - 2015-10-02 9:58 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-10-02 7:28 AM MC1993 - 2015-10-02 7:21 AM WOW! I never knew this about some of the girls. I figured they all couldn't be angels but never got that from most of them...now I am dying to know!!!!!! I know, right!! Now I am curious too!!
I understand they can't all be goody 2 shoes, but to get to that level you would at least care about animals enough not to want to hurt them, even if it wasn't your own..... Nope, to some of them they are just a means to an end. It's the game they love, not the animals. I am by no means saying they are all like that, but as in society, there always a few that are in it for themselves only.
Wow, that is truly sad. And to think that a lot of people look up to these individuals....
I don't go overnight a lot (maybe 2-3 times a year) and I always bring my heeler with me, she is tied to the trailer and will not let anyone close to it when I am not there. The only time she growls is when dogs run around off leash..... and if she ever bites one, I will not be sorry. Every arena I've been to so far has a sign posted that dogs need to be on a leash. If you can't comply then you don't have any reason to complain.
Would I like for her to bite another dog, of course not. But don't let your dog run free, and than blame me for having a guard dog tied to my trailer. There have been enough examples of things going missing.... It is sad enough as it is that tack gets stolen from a horse!! I have padlocks on every door. End even that will not deter some people... so she helps me to keep my stuff where it belongs!
Now, this whole post makes me want to keep my horse at the trailer as well. But since some arena's don't allow that I guess I will be investing some money in a security camera soon! |
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Location: Oregon | Well be forewarned if your dog bites someone or even another dog at the race you are liable and you can be sued. |
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Location: London Ontario | If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm..... |
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Location: Oregon | MC1993 - 2015-10-02 1:30 PM If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm.....
Seriously? If your dog bites anyone anywhere you can be sued. Especially in a public place. Plus they can put your dog down. The person isn't going to confess they were trying to steal your crap.
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| You can be good at playing the "game" but you will never be good enough to out run karma! Hurting an animal or even killing one on purpose, there's the man upstairs you can't ever hide from! Horses are amazing and God sent. If more people had a heart like their horses, there wouldn't be a problem. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | crapshooter - 2015-10-02 6:20 PM
MC1993 - 2015-10-02 1:30 PM If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm.....
Seriously? If your dog bites anyone anywhere you can be sued.  Especially in a public place. Plus they can put your dog down. The person isn't going to confess they were trying to steal your crap.
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I have to carry extra insurance with my homeowners policy. If someone driving by decides to stop and pet my horse and gets bit or kicked, I am covered. |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | SKM - 2015-10-02 4:09 AM
Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 7:29 PM
 Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...   Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe.Â
It always amazes me how the general public puts those NFR people on a pedestal. While some are very nice and down to earth, others... not so much. Then when someone makes a sort of negative comment, people come unglued defending these superstars. There was a post here last year asking who you would like to travel with for a week to learn from. I'm reading the names going nice, slut, abuser, b!tch, nice, needle queen, nice. I'm really sorry you went through that with your nice mare. People really suck at times.
Haha so funny and so true! I found out those who everyone looks up to are some that should not be looked up to at all. I will say Lindsey Sears was very nice and always had a. Smile for anyone walking past her no matter if it was early slack or off time. Others- straight up rotten dogs lol. Some of you know how horrible one NFR girl always is and those who haven't been around her in a competition setting with a good horse under you think she's a good person.
Something to take from this post- don't trust people bc they win.. Some are good and some are harmful to you and your horses. I will NOT mention names |
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Location: Arkansas | abuffalo27 - 2015-10-03 9:52 AM
You can be good at playing the "game" but you will never be good enough to out run karma! Hurting an animal or even killing one on purpose, there's the man upstairs you can't ever hide from! Horses are amazing and God sent. If more people had a heart like their horses, there wouldn't be a problem.
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Location: Oklahoma | MC1993 - 2015-10-02 3:30 PM
If someone tries to break into my truck or trailer and my dog bites them, I will be sued? Hmmmm.....
Yes, you will. I had my heeler tied exactly like you said, and she couldn't reach you unless you were within a foot of the trailer. Shavings sales person across the street SAW the people try to open my tack room and my dog bite them and he told the police that. Didn't matter. I came back from my run and there were police cars at my trailer, as the gal she bit had called them. They pressed charges, and sued. My insurance company paid her, and my insurance went up. All the dog did was tear her pants. Later, the same lady was arrested as part of a tack stealing ring....they found tons of saddles and tack at her place that had been stolen.....yet my insurance company had to pay her because she sued before she got caught for stealing. There's no doubt in my mind she was trying to steal my tack. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Also, the year the horse in my avatar won Drysdales Super Show, the video person came and told me that a guy from the east coast was buying all my videos of him, and to keep an eye out. Then the gal stalled next to me told me a guy kept coming by and looking at him in the stall (which I already had a bike lock on it), so my husband and I took turns staying in front of his stall the whole night. Idk if he had any idea of stealing him, but I knew he could take him to the east coast, sell him for grade and still get good money for him, so I decided to just stay with him. |
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