|
|
 I Chore in Chucks
Posts: 2882
   
Location: MD | I'm going to guess all of this wouldn't be an issue of some people weren't screen shotting watermarked photos with "THIS PHOTO IS STOLEN" across the center of it. Unfortunately those that try to do right by photographers by buying photos and thinking they can do what they please with it end up getting the sh*t stick trying to regain control of their own businesses.
Whatever. The photographer shouldn't have called you out. At least you actually purchased something. He needs to either incorporate digital rights into his fees... OR make you aware. Everyone these days has some sort of online presence, that is something you bring up, especially when you have problems with "theft".
I feel sad for the OP, that photographer mad her feel like crap and I'm sure if he just said something through a private message she would have handled it. He's just being a jerk about it and needs to straighten out those panties. | |
| | |
 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | Most of the photographers here are really good about it. I love the option to purchase digital downloads, that's usually all I do. If I buy a hard copy, I just tell them that I'd like to be able to post it on FB and ask if it's ok. 95% of them will throw in a digital copy for free instead of me scanning it in. What I find incredibly rude is people stealing images off a webpage and posting all over the place. As reasonably as most will sell a digital download, I can't imagine why they think this is ok. When you see them in an ad, it's even worse.....tells you a lot about the kind of person you'll be doing business with if you buy the horse. | |
| | |
 Zeal Queen
Posts: 3826
Location: TEXAS | Three 4 Luck - 2015-10-27 2:28 PM If I buy a pic and post it on my FB or here or whatever, and someone doesn't like it, they can kiss my ass. I can understand if you use it in an ad, but personal display is personal display.
I agree!! I pay good money for the pictures and should be able to show them off to my friends whether in person or online. To me, it seems like greed that a photographer took a picture of ME and then I purchase it and have to purchase the digital copy just to be able to show where family and friends! BS! | |
| | |
 Elite Veteran
Posts: 851
Location: West Texas | I have done this before, as I assume everyone has. If a photographer confronted me and accused me of stealing, I darn sure wouldn't buy another image from the said person or business. I don't care what the laws are, if they are going to be ridiculous and an ass, no way will they overcharge me again for a print. I paid for the picture and I'll show it to whom I want. Maybe the laws need to be changed... And yes, I have purchased digital images as well. I just don't like photographers getting in a tizzy over nothing and like others have said, its me in the picture, so that should carry rights, even though it doesn't. | |
| | |
 Expert
Posts: 1525
| mlh0972 - 2015-10-28 7:23 AM Ok, here's my thing, if i buy the digital rights like they are asking, then I don't need to buy that physical photo. I should be given that photo on a CD so that I can then take it to Wal-mart or any other photo store and make as many "pictures" as I like. So in that case shouldn't the digital rights be more expensive since I am essentially buying that photo and making it mine? If photographers want to play the whole you need to buy the "rights" to this photo before posting, shouldn't they then explain how that works. If I have to buy multiple forms of my photo, digital, physical, holographic, ect, I should be then given a CD of that photo so that I can then make as many copies as I want since it is then MY photo. The logic behind some of this is questionable.
Sorry to burst your bubble, I thought this was the case too. But actually, I was told that taking your digital copy to a "photo place" for copies was also Stealing, and that most "photo shops" would know that it was illegal and not allow you do do it....because it has the photographers name, stamp or whatever on it. JUST SO YOU KNOW> you have to buy the digital copy and that is for online, social media, etc....and if you want physical copies...then you have to purchase those as well. | |
| | |
Expert
Posts: 1525
| I will say this. I apologized to the photographers...each of them on my Facbook page...and told them that I was sorry and I would purchase the digital copy for my Facbook since I often use those photos to help tell stories and include them in my little "blog posts" and sell horses with them. One of them emailed the digital photo of what was my profile picture, that I had purchased, this morning. It was in my inbox when I came to work. I asked her how much I owed her for it....havent heard back yet. I am assuming that since I aplogized for not understanding the Copyright rules that she may have "gifted" it to me. The PRCA photographer, in which I bought the picture, is only charging me $10 for that picture's digital rights so that I can use it in future Facebook posts.
I think that maybe, going forward, when you get online or at a race and you buy a picture....there should be some sort of Copyright disclosure or something at informs people like me...that arent Copyright experts...what I can and cant do with that picture. I am not a big fan of having to pay for a picture of myself...since years ago modeling...I would have charged them to photograph me ahahahah...boy it sucks getting old! | |
| | |
| mlh0972 - 2015-10-28 7:23 AM Ok, here's my thing, if i buy the digital rights like they are asking, then I don't need to buy that physical photo. I should be given that photo on a CD so that I can then take it to Wal-mart or any other photo store and make as many "pictures" as I like. So in that case shouldn't the digital rights be more expensive since I am essentially buying that photo and making it mine? If photographers want to play the whole you need to buy the "rights" to this photo before posting, shouldn't they then explain how that works. If I have to buy multiple forms of my photo, digital, physical, holographic, ect, I should be then given a CD of that photo so that I can then make as many copies as I want since it is then MY photo. The logic behind some of this is questionable.
We are spoiled here with a fantastic photographer that doesn't ask much other than his watermarked pictures to not be screenshot. They say "If view on Facebook (and etc) this photo is STOLEN" across the middle of the image. Sometimes it sucks for previewing your photos, but the thieves are the ones who ruined it for the rest of us. I'd rather have a large watermark than see a photographer that is so good to us up here be taken advantage of.
Anyway, with all that said - I believe he charges $20 for Digital Download - this is Hi-Res and you can use it for printing if you so wish. He also offers digital downloads for $5. These are Low-Res and are used for your social media stuff. Of course you can buy whatever size print you want for $x.xx too. I think the way he offers it is a good way to avoid all the confusion. I swear some photographers set themselves up for headaches.
If a photographer is going to make me buy a $20 print + a $20 digital download just so I can put that same picture up on facebook, to heck with them. Sounds like in the end they will be losing money. | |
| | |
 Expert
Posts: 3815
Location: The best kept secret in TX | Well there go all my cool pics on Social Media.... Gotta start reading fine print... I'm bad about skimming to make sure it says nothing crazy like "give us your first born child so we can call it even" and then I sign it... Gotta stop that. 
What a mess!! | |
| | |
  A Lady with Fight
Posts: 2701
Location: NC | SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM
Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it!
I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want.
This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO.
Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right?
Lord have mercy.
Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do.
Ungrateful much? | |
| | |
Extreme Veteran
Posts: 393
| hlynn - 2015-10-28 8:46 AM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM
Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it!
I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want.
This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO.
Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right?
Lord have mercy.
Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do.
Ungrateful much?
Whoa!!
I actually have 2 very good friends that are photographers that 100% agree with me that some photographers are over charging and they shouldn't be charging that much.
So get off your high horse.
Almost every other person on here has also agreed with me as well that what some of the photographers charge us AROUND HERE is extreme!! I am NOT talking about the ones that have reasonable prices! I am talking about the ones that are charging outrageous prices, $60 a digital copy!
| |
| | |
 Fact Checker
Posts: 16575
Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2015-10-28 9:46 AM SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it! I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want. This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO. Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right? Lord have mercy. Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do. Ungrateful much?
Are YOU kidding us????? That is the cost of doing business.....and the hours they work (2 or 3 days a weeks????) What about the poor factory worker who slaves for 8-10 hours a day (and sometimes overtime) to make the money for travel expenses, enter the race and to BE their subject to SELL to....... | |
| | |
Extreme Veteran
Posts: 393
| NJJ - 2015-10-28 9:12 AM
hlynn - 2015-10-28 9:46 AM SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it! I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want. This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO. Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right? Lord have mercy. Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do. Ungrateful much?
THANK YOU! I am glad I am not the only one that sees it this way. | |
| | |
 Living on the edge of common sense
Posts: 24138
Location: Carpenter, WY | I really can see both sides of the argument, but on a personal level I used to take alot of pics at CFD and post them on here just to share my experience with everyone. I'm no pro photographer, but I'd see the pics ALL over the place (FB, websites) and after a couple of years it kind of ticked me off. I just quit posting the pics on here altogether. All anyone would have done is just asked to use them and given me the credit and I would have been more than happy to share and given the photo to them . I'm even still seeing them on a few of the pro girls avatars on FB
Maybe to those who are offended by the cost of the pic, the courtesys asked for, or the copyright rules you could just give your personal camera to a friend and have them take your pic and you wouldnt have to worry about the cost or laws??
Edited by teehaha 2015-10-28 10:35 AM
| |
| | |
Expert
Posts: 1525
| Got the digital copy...No watermark :) yay...I am free, clear and legal (i think?, lol)
 (DD1_0338E (3).jpg)
Attachments
----------------
 DD1_0338E (3).jpg (83KB - 155 downloads)
| |
| | |
A Lady with Fight
Posts: 2701
Location: NC | SassyPirate - 2015-10-28 11:10 AM
hlynn - 2015-10-28 8:46 AM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM
Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it!
I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want.
This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO.
Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right?
Lord have mercy.
Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do.
Ungrateful much?
Whoa!!
I actually have 2 very good friends that are photographers that 100% agree with me that some photographers are over charging and they shouldn't be charging that much.
So get off your high horse.
Almost every other person on here has also agreed with me as well that what some of the photographers charge us AROUND HERE is extreme!! I am NOT talking about the ones that have reasonable prices! I am talking about the ones that are charging outrageous prices, $60 a digital copy!
Oh and most of the time they're also charged a vendor fee of they're there for the weekend. So they're also trying to cover that on top of the other costs of just getting there and spending hours uploading and editing and everything else.
You have no idea the hours upon hours of behind the scenes stuff that goes on. | |
| | |
A Lady with Fight
Posts: 2701
Location: NC | NJJ - 2015-10-28 11:12 AM
hlynn - 2015-10-28 9:46 AM SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it! I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want. This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO. Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right? Lord have mercy. Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do. Ungrateful much?
There's more to it than just the time spent taking the photos sweet cheeks. Add in the time setting up the flashes, the cameras, all of the other equipment, the computers, etc. THEN taking pictures for hours upon hours. Then editing and uploading for hours upon hours. It adds up. So yes, all that money they charge is well worth it.
Spend it or don't. But don't complain about it if you haven't the slightest clue the work that goes into it.
And most photographers have day jobs during the week. They use their vacation time to go shoot big shows on the weekends. They usually enjoy it until they have to defend themselves and end up losing God knows how much revenue from people STEALING because they screenshot instead of just buying the digital image with all the rights to it. | |
| | |
I just read the headlines
Posts: 4483
| hlynn - 2015-10-28 10:37 AM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-28 11:10 AM
hlynn - 2015-10-28 8:46 AM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM
Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it!
I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want.
This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO.
Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right?
Lord have mercy.
Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do.
Ungrateful much?
Whoa!!
I actually have 2 very good friends that are photographers that 100% agree with me that some photographers are over charging and they shouldn't be charging that much.
So get off your high horse.
Almost every other person on here has also agreed with me as well that what some of the photographers charge us AROUND HERE is extreme!! I am NOT talking about the ones that have reasonable prices! I am talking about the ones that are charging outrageous prices, $60 a digital copy!
Oh and most of the time they're also charged a vendor fee of they're there for the weekend. So they're also trying to cover that on top of the other costs of just getting there and spending hours uploading and editing and everything else.
You have no idea the hours upon hours of behind the scenes stuff that goes on.
So are you saying they work harder than the rest of us?! What about how hard I worked to care for my horse, get him in shape, hours I worked at my job to afford my horse, feed vet bills, truck and trailer, gas, maintenance on the truck and trailer, etc.? I don't mind paying for my pictures, but I do take acception to them using them without my permission but throwing a hissy if I use the picture I paid for for advertising or promotion purposes or for putting it up on my Facebook page. If I buy the picture I should be able to use it as I see fit, same as the photographer does. And if I don't want my picture taken, I should have that right of refusal, too. I have a friend that does reining and at some shows she HAD to pay a photographers fee and it didn't matter if she wanted her picture taken or not. She had to pay that feè to show. That is BS! | |
| | |
Expert
Posts: 1525
| hlynn - 2015-10-28 10:41 AM NJJ - 2015-10-28 11:12 AM hlynn - 2015-10-28 9:46 AM SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it! I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want. This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO. Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right? Lord have mercy. Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do. Ungrateful much? There's more to it than just the time spent taking the photos sweet cheeks. Add in the time setting up the flashes, the cameras, all of the other equipment, the computers, etc. THEN taking pictures for hours upon hours. Then editing and uploading for hours upon hours. It adds up. So yes, all that money they charge is well worth it. Spend it or don't. But don't complain about it if you haven't the slightest clue the work that goes into it. And most photographers have day jobs during the week. They use their vacation time to go shoot big shows on the weekends. They usually enjoy it until they have to defend themselves and end up losing God knows how much revenue from people STEALING because they screenshot instead of just buying the digital image with all the rights to it.
 I just wanted to say that I didint know that I was STEALING....I thought after I bought the picture it was mine..I didnt know there was even such a thing as "Digital rights" or whatever...I have photographer friends who send me my pictures, with the watermarks, so that I can pick which I want without having to go search through hundreds of pics on the website...and then I buy the one I want.......and usually share it to Facebook until my phyisical photo comes in the mail. I DIDNT KNOW>>>>people who do not work with Copyrights HAVE TO REASON TO KNOW....until they are accused of stealing that is....so now that I know the difference I will be sure to purchase the digital if I want to post it on Facebook.
I just thought I would be clear about the fact that I didnt screenshot anything and not buy the photo. I bought it...I thought it was mine...and I wanted to post it asap because I was excited to take a good pic that weekend or whatever...meant no harm in it at all....JUST DIDNT KNOW THE RULES. NOT EVERYONE IS DOING IT TO STEAL.
| |
| | |
A Lady with Fight
Posts: 2701
Location: NC | GLP - 2015-10-28 11:58 AM
hlynn - 2015-10-28 10:37 AM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-28 11:10 AM
hlynn - 2015-10-28 8:46 AM
SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM
Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it!
I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want.
This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO.
Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right?
Lord have mercy.
Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do.
Ungrateful much?
Whoa!!
I actually have 2 very good friends that are photographers that 100% agree with me that some photographers are over charging and they shouldn't be charging that much.
So get off your high horse.
Almost every other person on here has also agreed with me as well that what some of the photographers charge us AROUND HERE is extreme!! I am NOT talking about the ones that have reasonable prices! I am talking about the ones that are charging outrageous prices, $60 a digital copy!
Oh and most of the time they're also charged a vendor fee of they're there for the weekend. So they're also trying to cover that on top of the other costs of just getting there and spending hours uploading and editing and everything else.
You have no idea the hours upon hours of behind the scenes stuff that goes on.
So are you saying they work harder than the rest of us?! What about how hard I worked to care for my horse, get him in shape, hours I worked at my job to afford my horse, feed vet bills, truck and trailer, gas, maintenance on the truck and trailer, etc.? I don't mind paying for my pictures, but I do take acception to them using them without my permission but throwing a hissy if I use the picture I paid for for advertising or promotion purposes or for putting it up on my Facebook page. If I buy the picture I should be able to use it as I see fit, same as the photographer does. And if I don't want my picture taken, I should have that right of refusal, too. I have a friend that does reining and at some shows she HAD to pay a photographers fee and it didn't matter if she wanted her picture taken or not. She had to pay that feè to show. That is BS!
Omg. This isn't a battle of who works harder. But to say someone doesn't deserve to be paid for their work is BS.
If you don't want your photo taken, don't go to a show where there's a photographer! A photographer has rights to whatever photo they take, no matter the subject. If they are invited, especially if they pay a vendor fee, any photo they take is their property to do with as they please. | |
| | |
Living on the edge of common sense
Posts: 24138
Location: Carpenter, WY | hlynn - 2015-10-28 10:08 AM GLP - 2015-10-28 11:58 AM hlynn - 2015-10-28 10:37 AM SassyPirate - 2015-10-28 11:10 AM hlynn - 2015-10-28 8:46 AM SassyPirate - 2015-10-27 3:55 PM Honestly there are some photographers that are really good about this! You buy a $40-$60 photo from them and they are good with you using it! I think if they aren't I just won't use them for any of my events nor will I purchase photos from them! It does not cost them hardly anything to take photos (once their cameras are paid for), and charging us $60 for a copy seems a bit extreme to me and it is definitely not worth it for a photo but if I do buy it I better darn well be able to use it where I want. This floors me that they can be this greedy! I'm sorry to any photographers on here this is simply JMO. Are you kidding me?! Do you have any idea how much all of that equipment costs?! How much it costs to PRINT those photos for you?! How many HOURS they spend TAKING those photos?! The photgrapher at youth world broke his scapula because some girls horse ran him over! Risks of the job right? Lord have mercy. Please don't ever ever ever buy a piece of artwork or photo. You don't deserve someone's hard work. You don't seem to understand what people put into things and why things cost what they do. Ungrateful much? Whoa!! I actually have 2 very good friends that are photographers that 100% agree with me that some photographers are over charging and they shouldn't be charging that much. So get off your high horse. Almost every other person on here has also agreed with me as well that what some of the photographers charge us AROUND HERE is extreme!! I am NOT talking about the ones that have reasonable prices! I am talking about the ones that are charging outrageous prices, $60 a digital copy! Oh and most of the time they're also charged a vendor fee of they're there for the weekend. So they're also trying to cover that on top of the other costs of just getting there and spending hours uploading and editing and everything else. You have no idea the hours upon hours of behind the scenes stuff that goes on. So are you saying they work harder than the rest of us?! What about how hard I worked to care for my horse, get him in shape, hours I worked at my job to afford my horse, feed vet bills, truck and trailer, gas, maintenance on the truck and trailer, etc.? I don't mind paying for my pictures, but I do take acception to them using them without my permission but throwing a hissy if I use the picture I paid for for advertising or promotion purposes or for putting it up on my Facebook page. If I buy the picture I should be able to use it as I see fit, same as the photographer does. And if I don't want my picture taken, I should have that right of refusal, too. I have a friend that does reining and at some shows she HAD to pay a photographers fee and it didn't matter if she wanted her picture taken or not. She had to pay that feè to show. That is BS! Omg. This isn't a battle of who works harder. But to say someone doesn't deserve to be paid for their work is BS. If you don't want your photo taken, don't go to a show where there's a photographer! A photographer has rights to whatever photo they take, no matter the subject. If they are invited, especially if they pay a vendor fee, any photo they take is their property to do with as they please.
I had to giggle a little at that too :)
| |
| |
| |
Folks on-line