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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2015-11-15 8:15 AM
LOL@ bear, you want to coddle these child molesting and women raping cowards. I dont care that your dad believed in a pedophile skydaddy, the majority of them are disgusting almost humans.
OK tough guy. I'll ask you the same question. Let's see if you have the courage to give an honest answer. What should be done about "the Muslims"? What should be done about the ones who are US citizens?
Also, what the hell are you talking about? My dad....pedophile sky daddy? You don't even make sense. | |
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Location: Colorado | Look at the good Christians defending the USA!Congrats Doc, you got good people to step up.karen | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2015-11-15 8:41 AM
Look at the good Christians defending the USA!Congrats Doc, you got good people to step up.karen
LOL....I'd love to sit down and have a beer with a few of these brave, enlightened, "good Christians". | |
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Location: Florida.. | This was a prayers thread but I guess I will say this.....Christians get scared to so just try to remember that .the world is Ugly right now and words are spewed and people are in a state of panic.. There is no leadership whatsoever so we are all just trying to keep our lives together and figure out solutions. none of us are perfect nor know the answer.. If we had a true leader in office we could trust and rely on for the better of America then wed have a little bit of sense of security but right now we dont and its dangerous.. and leave on this note.. prime minister of France speech yesterday.. and Obama is stating he doesnt know who did it just a mass murder.. he never once called it like it was..... terrorist..
"Yes, we are at war. We are faced with an act of war methodically organized by a jihadist terrorist army. And because we are at war, we take exceptional measures. We will do this and we will strike the enemy to destroy it: in France and in Europe, but also in Syria and Iraq. And this war, we will win."
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | ndcowgirl - 2015-11-15 12:27 AM
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TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so?
For starters, look at the history of their immigration policy and open borders.
Chew on that for a while.
My step brother moved there. He also married a citizen and even after having a kid he had a tough time staying there. He makes less than a person born there having the same job and had to complete more education to do his job and testing high he still makes less
Frankly the case you presented isn't so wrong. France is doing the right thing by paying your brother less. It is called taking care of your own. France isn't America where everyone is supposed to be equal | |
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| Bear - 2015-11-14 7:41 PM
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muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see. | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Sometimes you sacrifice some security to have certain freedoms. When we let our fear and hate rule us, in the same way it rules these terrorists, we sink to their level, sacrifice our identity as Americans, and then must be prepared to live in a military state. History has taught us over and over how pleasant that is. Yes, let's all be Syria part two only yelling the name of Jesus, who I'm ever so sure would approve of our killing tons of people. This is a thread about prayer. My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to those who have suffered in France. I don't care if anyone here thinks that country has 'brought it on themselves,' perhaps in the same way America brought 9/11 on ourselves. People are suffering and hearts are hurting from a mindless act of hate. Let us do please avoid demonstrating the same form of mindless hate here. Many prayers for these families and even for those souls lost in hate that caused this travesty. Anyone who is raised around such hate is to be pitied as well. It cannot be happy to know such negativity all your life and then prepare to lose it so violently. I'll pray for a few souls on here that they not lose themselves in the same hate. | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | jbhoot - 2015-11-15 10:15 AM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 7:12 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:08 PM
svincent - 2015-11-14 6:54 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 4:49 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 6:42 PM
muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see.
They are not silent. They are being IGNORED. Right now you can sell more commercials on yours news media station by promoting hate, not understanding. Most moderate Christians are ignored in the same way. Voices of reason are the ones most quickly pushed to the side when fear and hate reign. It's a mob mentality. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2015-11-15 10:15 AM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 7:12 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:08 PM
svincent - 2015-11-14 6:54 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 4:49 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 6:42 PM
muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see.
It's out there, and they really are speaking out against ISIS. Keep in mind it's Muslims who far and away have been raped and massacred the most.
If you LOOK for the condemnation, it's out there......but if you want to continue to use the alleged "absence of condemnation" as an excuse to be a bigot, then you won't look. Just because it's not on Facebook or TV doesn't mean it isn't there. Also, many of these people are very bewildered and afraid.....for good reason. ISIS is not Islam. | |
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Location: Colorado | Try listening to some International news. Muslims around the world are denouncing the violence. Evan here in CO they are standing with the French communities.karen | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Stitch4k9 - 2015-11-15 10:52 AM
Try listening to some International news. Muslims around the world are denouncing the violence. Evan here in CO they are standing with the French communities.karen
Yes BBC had a sad story about a bombing in Kenya by an extreme Muslim group Al Shaqab. 143 killed. | |
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| Bear - 2015-11-15 10:47 AM
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Bear - 2015-11-14 7:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 7:12 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:08 PM
svincent - 2015-11-14 6:54 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 4:49 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 6:42 PM
muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see.
It's out there, and they really are speaking out against ISIS. Keep in mind it's Muslims who far and away have been raped and massacred the most.
If you LOOK for the condemnation, it's out there......but if you want to continue to use the alleged "absence of condemnation" as an excuse to be a bigot, then you won't look. Just because it's not on Facebook or TV doesn't mean it isn't there. Also, many of these people are very bewildered and afraid.....for good reason. ISIS is not Islam.
In the first place back the H*** off the bigot crap. There was nothing in my statement that was bigoted. It was a valid question. This is not a new problem it has been going on since the mid 80's and only getting worse. After all this time I should not have to LOOK as you say for a more robust condemnation it should be all over the media. You are right ISIS in is not Islam but until the good Muslim's loose their fear and bewilderment and stand up and take back their religion this problem will continue. I think most of the world agrees that these ISIS bastards need a bullet in the head. But that does not solve the root problem. This is not a Christion problem it is a Muslim problem it is the Muslim's that have let this grow. That be it from fear as you say but it is time that they loose that fear. Until the Muslim leaders that preach this crap are denounced and shunned in a LARGE voice by the vast majority Muslim's this will continue. As of yet I do not see that LARGE voice. | |
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Location: PNW | oija - 2015-11-15 9:08 AM
Stitch4k9 - 2015-11-15 10:52 AM
Try listening to some International news. Muslims around the world are denouncing the violence. Evan here in CO they are standing with the French communities.karen
Yes BBC had a sad story about a bombing in Kenya by an extreme Muslim group Al Shaqab. 143 killed.
Totally true. Moderate Muslims are considered to have committed apostasy (denouncement of their Muslim faith) by the extremists, which the greatest sin of them all and is punishable by death under every interpretation of Sharia Law. Moderate Muslims are just as disgusting as us no-good Christians as far as the extremists are concerned, and in the Middle East there are far more moderate Muslims than Christians to persecute in whatever sick fashion they would like.
AS CHRISTIANS, we should be recognizing that our fear is what puts this hatred into our hearts and PRAY. Pray for YOURSELF, that you may be given understanding and compassion and safety. Pray for THE MIDDLE EAST and ALL those subjected to the horrors around them for whatever reason is given. I'm as scared as anybody else, but you can't let that fear rule your life and overpower your other emotions and erase your logic.
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Location: PNW | jbhoot - 2015-11-15 10:02 AM
Bear - 2015-11-15 10:47 AM
jbhoot - 2015-11-15 10:15 AM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 7:12 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:08 PM
svincent - 2015-11-14 6:54 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 4:49 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 6:42 PM
muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see.
It's out there, and they really are speaking out against ISIS. Keep in mind it's Muslims who far and away have been raped and massacred the most.
If you LOOK for the condemnation, it's out there......but if you want to continue to use the alleged "absence of condemnation" as an excuse to be a bigot, then you won't look. Just because it's not on Facebook or TV doesn't mean it isn't there. Also, many of these people are very bewildered and afraid.....for good reason. ISIS is not Islam.
In the first place back the H*** off the bigot crap. There was nothing in my statement that was bigoted. It was a valid question. This is not a new problem it has been going on since the mid 80's and only getting worse. After all this time I should not have to LOOK as you say for a more robust condemnation it should be all over the media. You are right ISIS in is not Islam but until the good Muslim's loose their fear and bewilderment and stand up and take back their religion this problem will continue. I think most of the world agrees that these ISIS bastards need a bullet in the head. But that does not solve the root problem. This is not a Christion problem it is a Muslim problem it is the Muslim's that have let this grow. That be it from fear as you say but it is time that they loose that fear. Until the Muslim leaders that preach this crap are denounced and shunned in a LARGE voice by the vast majority Muslim's this will continue. As of yet I do not see that LARGE voice.
If you watch any international news stations, the moderate Muslims DO speak out - but how many Americans watch BBC more regularly than Fox or MSNBC?
Moderate Muslims wanting to be moderate is what helped to plant the seed of ISIS. The extremists saw how moderate their faith was becoming and decided to try to change that. They started so small because they were a SMALL GROUP. They have gained traction through fear, violence, and promises of more violence. Unfortunately, ISIS is much heavier in the arms department than their moderate victims. Obama's opinion that ISIS was an inferior threat and his decision to withdraw from the ME only ended up compounding the situation and lead to the obviously rapid growth of the caliphate.
If somebody had a loop of razor wire around your children's necks and told you to join them or watch your family die, would you tell them to go eff themselves on international television? Probably not. If you ARE one of the few that is eager to be martyred, there's still flights to the Middle East on a regular basis, I'm sure they'd love all of the extra expertise on how to defeat ISIS. | |
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Location: PNW | For what it is worth, I'm not calling anybody a bigot. I'm guilty of speaking too quickly with words fueled by fear also. I'm just trying to call our attention to the fact that many, if not most of us lose sight of our humanity when our families, values, and our country are threatened. This is wrong, but we can't linger in that mentality. Christians calling for the extermination of all Muslims is NO BETTER than Muslims calling for the extermination of all Christians, or from the Nazis calling for the extermination of all Jews.
There's no easy solution. If there were, we wouldn't even be discussing this, it would already have been handled. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jbhoot - 2015-11-15 12:02 PM
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jbhoot - 2015-11-15 10:15 AM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 7:12 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 7:08 PM
svincent - 2015-11-14 6:54 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 4:49 PM
Itsme - 2015-11-14 6:42 PM
muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see.
It's out there, and they really are speaking out against ISIS. Keep in mind it's Muslims who far and away have been raped and massacred the most.
If you LOOK for the condemnation, it's out there......but if you want to continue to use the alleged "absence of condemnation" as an excuse to be a bigot, then you won't look. Just because it's not on Facebook or TV doesn't mean it isn't there. Also, many of these people are very bewildered and afraid.....for good reason. ISIS is not Islam.
In the first place back the H*** off the bigot crap. There was nothing in my statement that was bigoted. It was a valid question. This is not a new problem it has been going on since the mid 80's and only getting worse. After all this time I should not have to LOOK as you say for a more robust condemnation it should be all over the media. You are right ISIS in is not Islam but until the good Muslim's loose their fear and bewilderment and stand up and take back their religion this problem will continue. I think most of the world agrees that these ISIS bastards need a bullet in the head. But that does not solve the root problem. This is not a Christion problem it is a Muslim problem it is the Muslim's that have let this grow. That be it from fear as you say but it is time that they loose that fear. Until the Muslim leaders that preach this crap are denounced and shunned in a LARGE voice by the vast majority Muslim's this will continue. As of yet I do not see that LARGE voice.
First of all, John, I didn't mean to call YOU a bigot. I apologize. That was sloppy wording on my part. I should have stated "If one wants to....."
My question to you is, have you actually looked for condemnation of these monsters by moderate, mainstream Muslims? If you don't look for it, you won't see much, but take my word for it......it's out there. It could be better, I'll admit, but it's out there. Try looking. Read about it.
Keep one thing in mind.....there are only 2 million Muslim citizens in this country. That's way less than 1%. That, plus the nature of media, makes their condemnation not sensational enough to be particularly newsworthy.
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| its just satan getting in high gear before Jesus comes back
we don/t know the answer but i will say this any man that rapes a child that his religion says is ok there is a special place in hell for them | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | vjls - 2015-11-15 12:51 PM
its just satan getting in high gear before Jesus comes back
we don/t know the answer but i will say this any man that rapes a child that his religion says is ok there is a special place in hell for them
I agree.....pretty disgusting, even if it was common accepted practice 1400 years ago.
Can you imagine a prominent modern day Christian leader as a pedophile?
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muslims are the biggest hate group, no question about it, their bible mandates it. Plus muslims kill and instill more terror each and every year than the Klan ever has.
It's true that practically all major terror attacks over the past half century have been committed by Muslims. Does that mean all Muslims are terrorists or promoters of terrorism?
If they are Muslim and truly believe in the Quran - YES. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want us infidels dead; it is a question of whether or not they are willing to do it themselves or just let "the terrorists" do it.
OK, if that's correct, what should we do to the Muslim citizens in the US?
Watch them like a hawk, im talking about the citizens as well as the govt. Then deport any here illegally or on a visa and DO NOT import the "Syrian refugees".
I believe the vast majority of Muslims do not wish to kill innocent people. Regardless of what is taken out of context from the Quran, the vast majority of Muslims love and admire Christians, in general, as much as Christians generally love one another. You would probably be surprised to learn of the similarities and commonalities between Muslims and Christians. I'm Christian and I was raised Christian by my Christian grandmother. My grandfather was a Muslim, although not particularly devout. I have many relatives and friends who are Muslim. I have the unique life experience of growing up amidst both Muslims and Christians. Moderate Muslims do not take everything from the Quran literally any more than Christians strictly adhere to Old Testament law. We have had Muslims living peacefully among us for centuries, and they have made a great number of contributions to our society, our country, and indeed, humanity. Keep in mind who has far and away suffered most from these evil bastards......Muslims. Many more Muslims have been butchered by these insane evil bastards. They need to be exterminated. Making broad, sweeping generalizations about Muslims/Arabs is precisely what they want. Nothing will be more powerful as a recruitment tool than this wave of bigotry we are seeing in the aftermath of this massacre in Paris. I realize what I am saying is not going to be well received, and most likely a number of people will draw negative inferences about me as a result, but at least I'm being honest. Not all Muslims are the same any more than all Christians share the same values as another fringe Christian group, the KKK.
We, as a nation have been here before, and we regret it. Let's not make the same mistake. It's understandable as an initial reaction, but if we go down that road again, we will have yet another shameful chapter to add to our history.....one we will most certainly regret.
While I agree that most Muslims do not agree with ISIS and their butchery. I must ask you where are the voices of the moderate Muslims. Silence is all I hear. Other than a few pundits I see no vast majority of moderate Muslims standing up to denounce this. Where are the Muslim religious leaders standing in mass against this....Again silence. While it is true that the KKK was an example of bastardize Christianity it was largely swipe into history by Christians and Christian leaders standing up and denouncing them. So again I ask you where are the Muslim voices in this.....Silence is all I see.
It's out there, and they really are speaking out against ISIS. Keep in mind it's Muslims who far and away have been raped and massacred the most.
If you LOOK for the condemnation, it's out there......but if you want to continue to use the alleged "absence of condemnation" as an excuse to be a bigot, then you won't look. Just because it's not on Facebook or TV doesn't mean it isn't there. Also, many of these people are very bewildered and afraid.....for good reason. ISIS is not Islam.
In the first place back the H*** off the bigot crap. There was nothing in my statement that was bigoted. It was a valid question. This is not a new problem it has been going on since the mid 80's and only getting worse. After all this time I should not have to LOOK as you say for a more robust condemnation it should be all over the media. You are right ISIS in is not Islam but until the good Muslim's loose their fear and bewilderment and stand up and take back their religion this problem will continue. I think most of the world agrees that these ISIS bastards need a bullet in the head. But that does not solve the root problem. This is not a Christion problem it is a Muslim problem it is the Muslim's that have let this grow. That be it from fear as you say but it is time that they loose that fear. Until the Muslim leaders that preach this crap are denounced and shunned in a LARGE voice by the vast majority Muslim's this will continue. As of yet I do not see that LARGE voice.
First of all, John, I didn't mean to call YOU a bigot. I apologize. That was sloppy wording on my part. I should have stated "If one wants to....."
My question to you is, have you actually looked for condemnation of these monsters by moderate, mainstream Muslims? If you don't look for it, you won't see much, but take my word for it......it's out there. It could be better, I'll admit, but it's out there. Try looking. Read about it.
Keep one thing in mind.....there are only 2 million Muslim citizens in this country. That's way less than 1%. That, plus the nature of media, makes their condemnation not sensational enough to be particularly newsworthy.
Yes Scott I have looked for it and I do see some of it. But to me not enough or loud enough That's my point. And yes I try to read both sides of a question. And yes I read national and international news. But to me unless the voices get louder I don't see much change. I see it as an internal problem in the Muslim religion and it's going to take the Muslim's to change this way of thinking. This change has to come from within the Muslim community I do not see how we as a country can change this type of thinking all we can do is kill the radicals. I do realize that the Muslim community is small but many many small groups can get their voices heard just look at the head lines of the news. Change only comes from protest and conviction to an idea. Bullets can't solve this alone. The change has to come from with in. | |
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