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Location: Southeast Louisiana | It wouldn't surprise me if it was concrete. I remember one year, I think it was Sherry Cervi, had some sparks fly when she ran through a bad spot. That ground is a problem every year. You'd think they could come up with some kinda fix.
I sure hope Radio is ok. He didn't look off to me, either. Just looked like Carley safetied up and was letting him finish on his own and maybe watching him closely to see if she needed to pull him up. |
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Location: Post Falls, ID | I also saw these bottles with NFR dirt at cowboy christmas, the two I looked at had Carpet threads mixed in with the dirt.. I thought that was interesting.. |
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| Willow55 - 2015-12-08 10:40 AM
It is concrete under the dirt. I saw pictures on facebook before they brought in the dirt and its solid concrete. Ill try to find them but you know how facebook is, posts seem to vanish if you don't post them to your wall.
Nobody is denying that the floor is concrete. Of course it is, they put flooring over it to play basketball on. The issue is, when the horse fell did all the dirt move and actually expose the concrete. |
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Location: Kentucky | I always get so confused. Whenever the NFR comes around, there are threads about the girls and their horses. We are interested in them, we want to talk about the event, the horses, everything. But someone ALWAYS has to say that there is "bashing". No, there's not. If discussing an NFR rider and horse is bashing then count me in. I like discussing the events and hearing other's opinions. These gals represent all of us barrel racers and it's so interesting!
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| If you don't like what someone has written, ignore it so it'll go away! Getting in a cat fight to prove yourself correct or someone else wrong is annoying! Say what you have to say about the subject, in this case: Carley and Radio, and keep it movin! Nothing worse than having to read 2 pages of your wrong, no your wrong, I didn't say that, yes you did, you don't know anything, your immature, your jealous, your horse is fat, yours looks like a mule, everybody is picking on me........... GOOD GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!! |
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| From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
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Location: California | newracer - 2015-12-08 7:46 AM I think it was right after she ran and before Bo and Taylor ran..did anyone see the ground in the spot they fell? Was that concrete showing?
I saw somewhere that it was plywood over concrete....  because that's so much better |
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| I am not certain if what I am about to type is true... so *** I think I recall Charmayne James one year volunteered to do the ground at the NFR and she was refused... Clearly the WPRA needs to really step up and start voicing their concerns in public and put the pressure on the PRCA to care enough to do something. The "invited guest" went out with the Lawsuit that the WPRA won a few years back and the PRCA owing them millions if not allowing them back in. We are equal partners and the second most popular event in rodeo... it's time someone stood up and got vocal about this, really vocal! It's a safety issue for horse and rider! |
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Location: Kansas | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
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Location: That part of Texas | Video from last year showing how the arena is retrofitted for the rodeo:
https://youtu.be/GCTkbClxIlk
Looks like everything is placed on the concrete with lots of dirt brought in. It's the same process I've seen for our local venues who do this stuff (Amarillo transforms a hockey rink to an arena for the World Champion Ranch Rodeo every year about the same way).
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| Wow I just wanted to know if Radio was ok. I wasn't trying to cause problems |
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Location: Somewhere around here | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
It isn't "behind the scenes" or "secret" information. I have friends running there, and friends that have trained a horse that is running there, and a friend that has a daughter that is going to make a run to be there next year, and friends that are good friends with girls running that happened to take a bad spill there last night. We all keep up with eacheother on Facebook, many of their posts are set to "friends only" but its public none the less. There are a couple girls running that I talk to here and there. I compete with Carley's sister and consider Kaily a friend (none of which this info came from), I have known Jana since I was like 5 years old (none of which this info came from), We all have friends or friends of friends that are competing...social media is public...
To be clear, I have not been to the NFR or "helped" the girls at the NFR...I just have friends, as do we all, that are there, are trainers that have trained horses that are there, are breeders of the horses that are there, there is NOTHING special about me. Just relaying info from 'someone in the know' that has made a public post on FB...if you were a mutual friend you would have seen it too.
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Location: That part of Texas | caspersabelpip - 2015-12-08 2:12 PM Wow I just wanted to know if Radio was ok. I wasn't trying to cause problems
Your question was valid and in case you missed the answer, it looks like he is going to be okay. I asked a friend of mine this morning who has been with Carley in Vegas if he was okay and she said yes -- got it straight from someone in the actual know that Radio is going to be okay. MOTIVATED has posted as much and has actually put a PM in to Carley to verify because there are people who do want to know and it's natural and nice to know people care.
The other stuff . . . well that's BHW for you sometimes. Don't let it bother you. 
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| cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM
MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride.
not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes?
Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally?
How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny. |
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Location: Kansas | cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally?
Get off your high horse and don't cop an attitude with me. I was simply asking a question since she seems to know so much. |
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| streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
Sean Davis manages the dirt and it is kept in storage and recycled every year. That is not an uncommon thing....obviously I do not know the age of the dirt haha I was 'joking' when I said it was 30 years old...what I meant and I should have clarified apparently, is that the dirt is recycled from year to year... and has been for years and years and years and years and years and years.
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Location: Kentucky | MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 3:34 PM
streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny.
Exactly. Dirt for North American Rodeo and KY State Fair are decades old. It's stored not far from the fairgrounds. |
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Location: Bama | kk65 - 2015-12-08 10:48 AM
I think all the girls should agree to high-lope through the pattern tonight as a joint protest to the ground conditions!
THIS is what I was thinking along the lines of. It's obvious the ground conditions suck. I am not there and do not know enough about this place or what it takes to get there, BUT if the ground is always this bad, how come these girls just don't refuse to run or attend? IF they ALL refused, they'd have to fix it right? Or am I just living in my own little ignorant dream world? 
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Location: That part of Texas | Murphy - 2015-12-08 2:38 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 3:34 PM streakysox - 2015-12-08 2:29 PM cecollins0811 - 2015-12-08 2:16 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-08 1:51 PM MOTIVATED - 2015-12-08 1:38 PM From a friend who is in the know....a ground crew offered to come do the ground at the finals this year for FREE, including dirt, equipment and crew and was turned away. The ground that they use for the finals is 30 years old...it is the same dirt every year...with the exception of last year where they added sand but not enough water...and that is why it was so shifty last year. This year it is better BUT the arena is drying out too quickly. I do know that a couple years back a very famous ground crew in this area supposedly offered for FREE to also do the Amarillo PRCA rodeo ground because slack is notoriously bad every year......they were turned away. I have a few friends competing this year and most of the horses have handled the ground pretty well this year...it is MUCH better than last year...but they need professionals to come in and let them do their job...its free...I dont know why they wouldn't allow it other than pride. not trying to come off as rude.....but how is it that you know SOOO much about what is going on behind the scenes? Not trying to come off as rude BUT have you ever thought that MOTIVATED has been there and helped out people at the NFR personally? How in the world did they get dirt that is 30 years old? Now that is pretty funny. Exactly. Dirt for North American Rodeo and KY State Fair are decades old. It's stored not far from the fairgrounds.
Lol -- you guys are missing the joke. Somebody was being sneaky snarky.  |
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