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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Whiteboy - 2016-01-20 7:10 AM
OregonBR - 2016-01-19 3:23 PM miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-01-19 1:05 PM RacingQH - 2016-01-19 11:16 AM Calangelo - 2016-01-19 6:07 AM OregonBR - 2016-01-18 2:23 PM Phxbarrel - 2016-01-18 11:45 AM Doesn't a smooth guy carry genetic issues? I wouldn't breed to him for that reason. I'm really gonna be keeping my eye on Feel the Sting. What he carries is recessive. So test the mare. If she is negative, I see no reason to worry about breeding to him. Nothing he sires o/o a negative mare will be affected. I can think of a lot worse things to worry about. I don't remember much from my biology class... even if his babies out of negative mares weren't affected, would they still be able to pass on the gene and affect future generations? Only if they get the genes from him. With each of the disorders he carries, you have a 50% chance that the resulting foal won't inherit the gene. I have always been interested in this stud but have never heard about him having genetic issues. What does he pass on? He's o/o a daughter Doc O Lena so he has one copy of HERDA. He also got GBED from his mother. FG has none of the 5 disorders that are testable with DNA.
I'm sure you already know this but he is out of a daughter of Dry Doc...full sibling to Doc Olena. Just helping to clarify.
Yep. I saw Poco Lena and Doc Bar and had a brain fart. Both Dry Doc and Doc O Lena got HERDA from Poco Lena. I'm not sure where GBED came from. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Well and actually, Nonestop Firewater has very few foals and has a average earnings per performer of $40,000 and 2 have gone to the NFR. |
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   Location: TX | Nonstop firewater is a good one too. Recently lost a nonstop jet mare unfortunately. I had crossed her on a FWF son, was a nice baby. Love that NSJ/FF cross |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Texican - 2016-01-21 5:17 PM
Nonstop firewater is a good one too. Recently lost a nonstop jet mare unfortunately. I had crossed her on a FWF son, was a nice baby. Love that NSJ/FF cross
He's a 1997. Is he still alive and shipping semen? |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | OregonBR - 2016-01-22 12:30 PM Texican - 2016-01-21 5:17 PM Nonstop firewater is a good one too. Recently lost a nonstop jet mare unfortunately. I had crossed her on a FWF son, was a nice baby. Love that NSJ/FF cross He's a 1997. Is he still alive and shipping semen?
He's 19 now and very much still alive. To bad he's been under-promoted because he has very few foals, most out of their own few mares and his foals are super nice! |
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | When I think of the "next big stud" a 19 year old is not what I think of. Just sayin' |
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 Location: Indiana | Nonstop Firewater is still alive. He stands at Southern Indiana Equine. |
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    Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Honestly super surprised that only 1 person said slick by design. His oldest is only 3 but the video i saw was super ncie and smooth and working nice. I like him a LOT I think he'll get a big name under him. he certainly has the stats and the owners to promote him. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | OregonBR - 2016-01-23 5:00 PM When I think of the "next big stud" a 19 year old is not what I think of. Just sayin'
No, your right and I dont either. However, I added him to this conversation because his record as a sire is phenominal. Especially givin how few foals he has. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Around 2005 I said I thought Chasin Firewater would be one of the greats.
My next prediction is Triple Vodka. He is all that and a bag of chips.
I also said that Dash Ta Fame and FWF would be the dream cross and seems they are also proving me right. I have always really liked FireWater Ta Fame. He has some amazing performers in the barrel pen.
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   Location: Lost in a sea of horses | What about Streakin ta Fame?? Thoughts. .. |
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What new line do you all think will be the up and coming producer? I wish someone would import one (several?) of those sons of the hot Brazilian stallion, El Shady Zorrero. Could be interesting... |
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| Anyone have any opinions on A Dash Ta Streak? We bred my mare, who is Matts King, Sugar King Chex & Shawnee Bug bred, to A Streak of Fling last year. She is do for a late February foal. We are looking to breed her back to a really nice stallion but can't afford the high price stud fees this year. Since he is by A Streak of Fling & Out of a Dash Ta Fame mare, thought I could sorta get a little best of both worlds. I was told he is currently in training with Ryan Pedone. He is only a six year old & I believe his oldest foal crop is yearlings. |
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 Location: Indiana | Nonstop Firewater is alive and is also being promoted. Check him out on Facebook and Southern Indiana Equine |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | sjoyner - 2016-01-24 2:37 PM Anyone have any opinions on A Dash Ta Streak? We bred my mare, who is Matts King, Sugar King Chex & Shawnee Bug bred, to A Streak of Fling last year. She is do for a late February foal. We are looking to breed her back to a really nice stallion but can't afford the high price stud fees this year. Since he is by A Streak of Fling & Out of a Dash Ta Fame mare, thought I could sorta get a little best of both worlds. I was told he is currently in training with Ryan Pedone. He is only a six year old & I believe his oldest foal crop is yearlings.
We have a mare in foal to him due this spring. There are also a couple other board members here who have bred to him and 1 has a couple foals born last year by him. |
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TOMAHAWK N FIREWATER
http://barrelhorseworld.com/horsedetail.asp?id=26148
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        Location: somewhere up north | My opinion is that I don't think there will be another as big as Dash Ta Fame because there are 8 million stallions out there now and several that are out of FANTASTIC mares too. How does a person even chose!?!? How many studs are standing by Mulberry Canyon Moon, PC Frenchmans Flirt, Firewater Fiesta, etc. Then look at the number of Frenchmans Guy stallions out of Dash Ta Fame mares. Now several stallions by A Streak of Fling. There are a TON of stallions and I think you will see a smaller number of foals winning by each one than in the past because of this. I am sure glad I don't have a bunch of mares to breed because my head is spinning just looking at what's out there. WOW! |
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 Location: TEXAS | SLICK BY DESIGN--- all time leading barrel horse stallion. His oldest colt is coming 3, and has the coolest move, I've ever seen. All his babies I've seen are built awesome, and have the best attitudes.
Also watch for FEEL THE STING--- Dash Ta Fame x Stingray, super pretty colt, and can't go wrong on the bloodlines.
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