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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My charitable giving is inspired by compassion. The more I have, the more I feel compelled to share. I would bet you a million dollars I can do more good by determining where my charity is spent and giving directly than by giving a larger amount of money to the government to redistribute. I'm not in the 1%, but I am a job creator who supports several families, including my own. We need to pay taxes to support our infrastructure, defense, agencies that regulate trade, etc, but by strangling job creators and people who WORK their asses off with high taxes you hurt the people who are supposedly being helped. Capitalism is not perfect, but it works better than anything else that has been tried. |
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Location: TEXAS | FLITASTIC - 2016-01-22 2:47 PM
slacy09 - 2016-01-22 12:34 PM
My take on all this is that America as well as the world will soon collapse and the "lawless one" will appear promising peace. Â We are in the end times, so really the future president doesn't matter much. Â If I'm wrong, I would like to see a Trump/Carson ticket  Â
SO are you not going to pay taxes because its the end of times and why bother?
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Location: SE KS | Bear - 2016-01-22 3:47 PM Don't hold your breath. She won't be back for a while, and even if she posts, it will be the same kind of drive-by remark.....
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Location: Oregon | Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-22 2:05 PM My charitable giving is inspired by compassion. The more I have, the more I feel compelled to share. I would bet you a million dollars I can do more good by determining where my charity is spent and giving directly than by giving a larger amount of money to the government to redistribute. I'm not in the 1%, but I am a job creator who supports several families, including my own. We need to pay taxes to support our infrastructure, defense, agencies that regulate trade, etc, but by strangling job creators and people who WORK their asses off with high taxes you hurt the people who are supposedly being helped. Capitalism is not perfect, but it works better than anything else that has been tried. Well theoretically they want to take more money from the 1 percent, not the middle class job creators.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 2:44 PM
 It has noting to do with education.Â
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.Â
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| Dinero10 - 2016-01-22 3:09 PM
1DSoon - 2016-01-22 2:44 PM Â It has noting to do with education.Â
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.Â
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lol - oh this is fun - who is condescending who now - you just stated earlier that I felt superior - who is stating now that you are more
intelligent than those of us on this board. Perhaps you are, and that is great. I don't claim to be the smartest, but I do believe in hard work, educating one self, and I feel I'm just as good as anyone else, and I have a right to become wealthy if I TRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are fun... lol
Compassion doesn't pay the bills, feed the world, put food in your mouth , my mouth.    Yes we need to have compassion, I have compassion for those that can't for themselves, have great disablility, but if you can walk, talk, and feed and I would hope think for yourself, you know what, pull yourself up by the boot straps and fight for what you want.  Â
K - the ball is in your court now. I'll be waiting. Â
Education does not equal intelligence. I KNOW what my IQ is, (and I don't go around belittling others) and I have all the education I care to have. My husband is fond of saying that the more education folks get the less common sense they tend to have....and I am inclined to agree with him in many instances. I have a BIL who did not graduate from high school then in his 20s got his GED equivalent and went all the way to a PhD in education. ...He drove the 5 miles to my house in his little S10 pickup with a completely flat tire and had no clue....that it was flat or how to change the tire. I had to change it for him.
One of the things my not so stupid brain and common sense tell me is that VERY few will actually work for 10% of their wages. I, for one, am getting tired of the 47% that don't pay taxes at all, telling those of us that work, that we are not keeping them in the manner to which they would like, so we must pay more taxes. I am speaking of those on government welfare, subsidies and the government in general.
In this country we have the Right to PERSUE happiness. We do not have the right to happiness, or a higher education for free, or medical insurance, or a roof over our heads or food on the table for free.
By the way, I grew up poor. We worked hard and are comfortable...far from rich. Why does ANYONE have the right to take any of that away from us? Because you want it? that is THEFT, plain and simple.
Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.
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| Dinero10 - 2016-01-22 4:14 PM
Bear - 2016-01-22 3:47 PM Don't hold your breath. She won't be back for a while, and even if she posts, it will be the same kind of drive-by remark.....
lol - I'm not - people with that thought process drive my crazy.... :)Â
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Location: Weatherford, TX | crapshooter - 2016-01-22 4:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-22 2:05 PM My charitable giving is inspired by compassion. The more I have, the more I feel compelled to share. I would bet you a million dollars I can do more good by determining where my charity is spent and giving directly than by giving a larger amount of money to the government to redistribute. I'm not in the 1%, but I am a job creator who supports several families, including my own. We need to pay taxes to support our infrastructure, defense, agencies that regulate trade, etc, but by strangling job creators and people who WORK their asses off with high taxes you hurt the people who are supposedly being helped. Capitalism is not perfect, but it works better than anything else that has been tried. Well theoretically they want to take more money from the 1 percent, not the middle class job creators.
They will have to tax the middle class job creators, the theoretical 1% won't cut it. During the small amount of the Democratic debate that I saw (couldn't take very much of it), Bernie replied to Hillary that the middle class would be taxed. That's always the way. |
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| Bear - 2016-01-22 3:00 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-22 2:55 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 2:44 PM It has noting to do with education.
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.
What opportunities are they privy too that are not available to others?? I am all for everyone being able to make a comfortable living but the numbers just don't add up. Even if you took 100% of the top 5% income you would have only enough $$ to sustain the current government programs for a few years much less redistribute it. This is backed up my numerous independent studies. How is this $$ going to get in the pockets of others?? The only way is through better wages, better jobs. My husband was/is a common folk who through 70 hour work weeks is now a top wage earner. By no means did he have his foot "on the throat" of the common man. He created jobs and improved the lives of everyone who works for him, they saw financial gains every time he did. Your husband is a capitalist pig who took advantage of a system that rewarded him because he was fortunate enough to be blessed with the ability to work hard and take risks. Not everyone is blessed with those abilities......some people are innately lazy.
Wellllll throw my husband and I in that pot too ... we'll all be capitalist pigs together and enjoy the fruits of working our tails off ;-)
For the record, until a work ethic is instilled and handouts go away, our country is in the crapper ..... just sucks that my future children will be left with the mess Obama has created. Handouts and wealth redistribution, as rodeomom pointed out, don't fix spending or budget problems. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | crapshooter - 2016-01-22 4:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-22 2:05 PM My charitable giving is inspired by compassion. The more I have, the more I feel compelled to share. I would bet you a million dollars I can do more good by determining where my charity is spent and giving directly than by giving a larger amount of money to the government to redistribute. I'm not in the 1%, but I am a job creator who supports several families, including my own. We need to pay taxes to support our infrastructure, defense, agencies that regulate trade, etc, but by strangling job creators and people who WORK their asses off with high taxes you hurt the people who are supposedly being helped. Capitalism is not perfect, but it works better than anything else that has been tried. Well theoretically they want to take more money from the 1 percent, not the middle class job creators.
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Location: Oregon | I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor. |
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| crapshooter - 2016-01-21 2:16 PM
Trump is the only candidate with a chance at beating Billary. And if the GOP splits off there goes that chance, and we'll be stuck with her. Palin's endorsement will hurt, not help Trump - he needs to not align himself with her. The evangical and tea candidates ARE NOT ELECTABLE, so those factions need to vote for Trump or force us to endure 4 or 8 more years of garbage.Â
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| crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:51 PM I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor.
why the waltonS why not the clinton the gates the pelosi buffet the wealthy liberal let them
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Location: Oregon | vjls - 2016-01-22 3:10 PM crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:51 PM I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor. why the waltonS why not the clinton the gates the pelosi buffet the wealthy liberal let them
i worked my butt off i am 65 and still working
Yes, all of them! I was just thinking of the Waltons since Walmart employees cost the taxpayers billions of dollars a year in public aid. |
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| crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:18 PM vjls - 2016-01-22 3:10 PM crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:51 PM I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor. why the waltonS why not the clinton the gates the pelosi buffet the wealthy liberal let them
i worked my butt off i am 65 and still working
Walmart just gave a pay raise to employees as the first step of a multi step program to pay better wages. |
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| lindseylou2290 - 2016-01-22 4:42 PM
Bear - 2016-01-22 3:00 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-22 2:55 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 2:44 PM Â It has noting to do with education.Â
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.Â
  What opportunities are they privy too that are not available to others??  I am all for everyone being able to make a comfortable living but the numbers just don't add up.  Even if you took 100% of the top 5% income you would have only enough $$ to sustain the current government programs for a few years much less redistribute it.  This is backed up my numerous independent studies. How is this $$ going to get in the pockets of others??  The only way is through better wages, better jobs.  My husband was/is a common folk who through 70 hour work weeks is now a top wage earner.  By no means did he have his foot "on the throat" of the common man.  He created jobs and improved the lives of everyone who works for him, they saw financial gains every time he did. Your husband is a capitalist pig who took advantage of a system that rewarded him because he was fortunate enough to be blessed with the ability to work hard and take risks. Not everyone is blessed with those abilities......some people are innately lazy.
Wellllll throw my husband and I in that pot too ... we'll all be capitalist pigs together and enjoy the fruits of working our tails off ;- ) For the record, until a work ethic is instilled and handouts go away, our country is in the crapper ..... just sucks that my future children will be left with the mess Obama has created. Handouts and wealth redistribution, as rodeomom pointed out, don't fix spending or budget problems. Â Â
We have a very successful friend in the oil and gas industry. He does not have a college degree, started working for them right out of high school doing grunt work. He never said no when asked to go do a job, his work ethic moved him up the ladder to now in his late 50's he is making a ton of money. It didn't come quick, it did not come easy and sure didn't come working only 40 hours a week. He and my husband always say the toughest part of their job is finding good people who want to work hard. My husband builds apartments and his subs can't find enough good labor to get the jobs done on time. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:37 PM cavyrunsbarrels - 2016-01-22 1:19 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 11:53 AM It's time for this country to finally get on the str8 and narrow.
Bernie Sanders is our man.
That's who will be getting my vote. I hope you're joking.
Bernie is that someone.
I can't believe I'm reading this...If you like Socialism move to a Socialist Country. He is everything that America is not and stands for everything America isn't. He's a big blow hard that has done nothing in almost 30 years of being in Congress. He is a true Socialist that has collected the same paycheck of people that were working. |
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Location: Florida.. | crapshooter - 2016-01-22 6:18 PM vjls - 2016-01-22 3:10 PM crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:51 PM I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor. why the waltonS why not the clinton the gates the pelosi buffet the wealthy liberal let them
i worked my butt off i am 65 and still working
I thought you meant "The Waltons" ... on the mountain.. and was trying to figure out the reasoning there.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2016-01-22 9:28 PM crapshooter - 2016-01-22 6:18 PM vjls - 2016-01-22 3:10 PM crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:51 PM I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor. why the waltonS why not the clinton the gates the pelosi buffet the wealthy liberal let them
i worked my butt off i am 65 and still working
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Location: Arkansas | rodeomom3 - 2016-01-22 5:39 PM
lindseylou2290 - 2016-01-22 4:42 PM
Bear - 2016-01-22 3:00 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-22 2:55 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 2:44 PM Â It has noting to do with education.Â
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.Â
  What opportunities are they privy too that are not available to others??  I am all for everyone being able to make a comfortable living but the numbers just don't add up.  Even if you took 100% of the top 5% income you would have only enough $$ to sustain the current government programs for a few years much less redistribute it.  This is backed up my numerous independent studies. How is this $$ going to get in the pockets of others??  The only way is through better wages, better jobs.  My husband was/is a common folk who through 70 hour work weeks is now a top wage earner.  By no means did he have his foot "on the throat" of the common man.  He created jobs and improved the lives of everyone who works for him, they saw financial gains every time he did. Your husband is a capitalist pig who took advantage of a system that rewarded him because he was fortunate enough to be blessed with the ability to work hard and take risks. Not everyone is blessed with those abilities......some people are innately lazy.
Wellllll throw my husband and I in that pot too ... we'll all be capitalist pigs together and enjoy the fruits of working our tails off ;- ) For the record, until a work ethic is instilled and handouts go away, our country is in the crapper ..... just sucks that my future children will be left with the mess Obama has created. Handouts and wealth redistribution, as rodeomom pointed out, don't fix spending or budget problems. Â Â
We have a very successful friend in the oil and gas industry. He does not have a college degree, started working for them right out of high school doing grunt work. He never said no when asked to go do a job, his work ethic moved him up the ladder to now in his late 50's he is making a ton of money. It didn't come quick, it did not come easy and sure didn't come working only 40 hours a week. He and my husband always say the toughest part of their job is finding good people who want to work hard. My husband builds apartments and his subs can't find enough good labor to get the jobs done on time.
Where do you live RM3? I'm in the deep South, own my own business, and find it sickening what our labor pool is like. . . . Lots of folks want paychecks but they don't want to have to get off the front porch or the cell phone to have to do it.
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