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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Eyewitness accounts of the roadblock and shooting of LaVoy. She's kind of rattled. The part that gets me is after he was shot in the FACE and was down, they shot him a few more times for good measure.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | OregonBR - 2016-01-28 12:42 PM Eyewitness accounts of the roadblock and shooting of LaVoy. She's kind of rattled. The part that gets me is after he was shot in the FACE and was down, they shot him a few more times for good measure. http://trentloos.podomatic.com/entry/2016-01-27T14_07_17-08_00[/quo...
Thanks for all your links!
I just wish the FBI would...if they can...prove that Lavoy's pickup is NOT riddled with bullets...that should be easy enough to do, huh? Again...if they can.
I really do wonder if the fbi started shooting expecting a different reaction and finally realized that there were no return shots and the shooters stopped...out of fear, refusal to murder innocents...who knows. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | musikmaker - 2016-01-28 11:56 AM
OregonBR - 2016-01-28 12:42 PM Eyewitness accounts of the roadblock and shooting of LaVoy. She's kind of rattled. The part that gets me is after he was shot in the FACE and was down, they shot him a few more times for good measure. http://trentloos.podomatic.com/entry/2016-01-27T14_07_17-08_00[/quo...
Thanks for all your links!
I just wish the FBI would...if they can...prove that Lavoy's pickup is NOT riddled with bullets...that should be easy enough to do, huh? Again...if they can.
I really do wonder if the fbi started shooting expecting a different reaction and finally realized that there were no return shots and the shooters stopped...out of fear, refusal to murder innocents...who knows.
They unloaded on the truck full of people. I have no doubt they were trying to get rid of all the witnesses. At that point the people in the truck were all on the floor hunkered down.
There's a video circulating of a woman interviewing LaVoy. She is saying "What if the people who took over the compound were of color? Muslim specifically." LaVoy refused to fall for that. But I will contend if that happened, Ovomit would send them food and supplies and apologize to them for the compound being so remote. He'd probably send them DVD movies so they didn't get bored. SMH What an upside down world we live in.  Edited by OregonBR 2016-01-28 2:14 PM
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| cyount2009 - 2016-01-28 8:54 AM
wickedstepmother - 2016-01-28 9:20 AM
river runner - 2016-01-28 6:56 AM
The main stream media will never report what actually happened and anyone who does will be labeled "crazy and extremist". Just like the EPA, the BLM needs a check on it's powers. People from the eastern part of the US really have no idea what it is like to live with them.
Or the far west. Anyone west of the cascades tend to be extremely liberals and will never acknowledge or admit that the government is sending our county to hell on a shutter :-/
People who do not live in the West and who have never seen first hand the struggle between the ranchers and the BLM and Forest Circus will never understand. The authorities charge them for AUMs, then come in cut the number of cattle they can graze that summer into a third of paid allotment and the rancher is expected to pay the original lease AUM for ever, regardless of how many cows he is allowed to graze every year. Every year that number of cows is cut smaller and smaller until it gets to a point where the cattleman goes screw it! Some sell out some put their cattle out there any ways. They paid for it, they should get to graze it. It would be like paying rent for the entire year before hand and then the landlord coming in and saying only 1 of your family of 4 can stay in the house for the next 4 months because the faucet's leaky and the dishwasher doesn't work but you still have to pay the full months rent for the months they can't live there and there is no refunds.
I know. I live in central washington, in the biggest County in the state (with the smallest population, lol). Our entire County is cattle ranches and farmland. My best friends lease is over 70,000 acres last I checked. The ranch I'm leaving right now (I'm a cleaning lady for them) is similar in size. I'm very aware. I also am two hours from Portland and I will tell you, 90% of the people from West of the cascades just DO. NOT. GET. IT. they might as well be from new york. It's absolutely aweful. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | There are some of us on the west side of the Cascades that do get it. I live in the Willamette Valley and I'm for the farmers and ranchers. If they will do this kind of thing to them, they will do it to me when I'm in the way. It's only a matter of when. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj81iGwTlDM |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | This is from KrisAnne Hall's fb concerning the Fox news interview with an fbi negotiator. Sums up my feelings right now.
Former FBI agent testimony on FOX: They warned Bundy that he would not be allowed to spread his message to other areas.
“If you intentionally go someplace the police have told you not to go, you are provoking that confrontation. And it’s very clear that’s what they did here. They were trying to spread this protest, this unlawful activity, to another area, Law enforcement very clearly told them not to go.”
So I guess, according to this former FBI agent...
the PENALTY for of Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Press, The Right to Peacefully Assemble, and the Right to Petition your government for a redress of our grievances is...
summary execution by federal agents.
KNOW YOUR RIGHTS! http://goo.gl/Q5EHkr (a flyer you can print out & a short video)
I suppose FOX News is ok with that. After all, there was no shock in Jenna Lee’s voice that someone would be shot for “spreading a protest to another area.” I guess Jenna Lee is convinced that the 1st Amendment is only there to protect reporters and that the government would never shoot a FOX reporter for “spreading” a message unwanted by the government.
I have never been more sick and ashamed of my countrymen than I am at this moment.
Hey FOX I hope you enjoy operating in a place where you are free to spew your undying servitude. So please feel free to crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you. I feel no kinship with you and may our Posterity never know you as our countrymen.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | KrisAnne Hall is wonderful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T424sWq1SkE
^^^ about the Bundy's.
About the history of our constitution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2POwIwA8E
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| No one arrested during "Occupy Oakland" or "Occupy Wallstreet" or "Occupy whatever". They too occupied federal property and private property.
They openly did drugs, defecated in the streets and on sidewalks, and raped other occupiers. They were tolerated and not arrested and most certainly not shot for their "occupation" of federal buildings etc. |
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Location: North Texas | permanent vacation - 2016-01-28 6:04 PM
No one arrested during "Occupy Oakland" or "Occupy Wallstreet" or "Occupy whatever". They too occupied federal property and private property.
They openly did drugs, defecated in the streets and on sidewalks, and raped other occupiers. They were tolerated and not arrested and most certainly not shot for their "occupation" of federal buildings etc.
Double standards ring a bell? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Looks like this will becoming to an end soon. Reminds me of Waco and think it will end up as badly.
http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/01/convoy-heads-into-oregon-refuge-including-heavily-armed-vehicles/
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | permanent vacation - 2016-01-28 6:04 PM No one arrested during "Occupy Oakland" or "Occupy Wallstreet" or "Occupy whatever". They too occupied federal property and private property. They openly did drugs, defecated in the streets and on sidewalks, and raped other occupiers. They were tolerated and not arrested and most certainly not shot for their "occupation" of federal buildings etc.
It's the liberal way...Only their causes are okay. Look what they did to Baltimore...What a joke. |
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| Nevertooold - 2016-01-28 7:13 PM permanent vacation - 2016-01-28 6:04 PM No one arrested during "Occupy Oakland" or "Occupy Wallstreet" or "Occupy whatever". They too occupied federal property and private property. They openly did drugs, defecated in the streets and on sidewalks, and raped other occupiers. They were tolerated and not arrested and most certainly not shot for their "occupation" of federal buildings etc. It's the liberal way...Only their causes are okay. Look what they did to Baltimore...What a joke.
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| VOTE TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Location: Florida.. | LIVE VIDEO>. he rammed a roadblock hit a agent and jumped out and reached to his waistband after running around erratic.. make your own conclusions .. horrible but this is why he was shot.One time.. and he did reach for his gun..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBNC-ZA9OKE
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | There was no audio on that video, but it looks like the way Biblia described it. It sure didn't look like he was shot multiple times. |
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Location: Florida.. | Full video.The FBI has released the full, unedited video of deadly confrontation with Oregon Militia - This is the complete video footage of a joint FBI and Oregon State Police traffic stop and OSP officer-involved shooting of Robert "LaVoy" Finicum on the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. This footage, which has only been edited to blur out aircraft information, was taken by the FBI on 01/26/2016 and released by the FBI on 01/28/2016.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Bibliafarm - 2016-01-28 7:38 PM LIVE VIDEO>. he rammed a roadblock hit a agent and jumped out and reached to his waistband after running around erratic.. make your own conclusions .. horrible but this is why he was shot.One time.. and he did reach for his gun..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBNC-ZA9OKE
I didn't see where he hit an agent? Maybe I watched a different presentation that went over it a bit more...one that clearly shows the back window of the camper being shot out before he was hit, and some are saying he may have been gut shot first and always carried his gun on his right hip...for sure we know that the fed wouldn't release that video if it wasn't 'fuzzy' enough to convince the public...and we have to ask WHY did it happen that way? A complete set up! The plane, the roadblock...the invite. This story resembles the young girls much more than the fbi's original story did.
Jury still out for me. And I'm not alone...I still want to pics of the truck. The fbi's saying they shot 'rubber bullets,' whatever, why the hell would they do that in a 'shootout'? ha
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Location: Florida.. | I dont know and none of us do.. so we can only speculate.tragic either way.. |
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| musikmaker - 2016-01-28 10:11 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-01-28 7:38 PM LIVE VIDEO>. he rammed a roadblock hit a agent and jumped out and reached to his waistband after running around erratic.. make your own conclusions .. horrible but this is why he was shot.One time.. and he did reach for his gun..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBNC-ZA9OKE
Jury still out for me. And I'm not alone...I still want to pics of the truck. The fbi's saying they shot 'rubber bullets,' whatever, why the hell would they do that in a 'shootout'? ha
Watch the full video. He was stupid. Had he not run the first stop and try to run the second he would be in jail and alive. I do agree with a lot of what he was protesting however his death is on him. |
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