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Location: Texas | They all need the money. I cannot think of one that is independently wealthy and doesn't need a payday AND they do love to rodeo. I feel like going down the road keeps them more consistant than the occasional contestant. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | What is pretty funny is hearing them tell how they have to have a 150k rig to go down the road. No one said you had to have a 150k rig to go down the road or 3 in Trevors case. I bet the old timers just shake their head when they say that. |
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| I will start empathizing with other people about how to keep them on the road and doing what they love for a living when they start giving a crap about me working an 8 to 5 and wishing I was doing the same thing. Sorry, its hard....but you're doing it. No one said they HAD to. I dont feel sorry for them, I dont care how they make money, its none of my business really...and at the end of the day I am not going to listen to a bunch of people whining about getting to do something that a million other people would like to do. Guess what, I dont like my job either haha.....we both have the choice to do something different. The difference is, I am not going to open my own competing company and then sue my boss for not letting me "get it started" with his paychecks....so that I am going to be 1. Ungrateful for my job 2. Sue him for not letting me start a competing company while working for him 3. cry and moan to the public (and to those without jobs) that my meany head boss wont let me come to work for him while I get a competing company up and running and trash him in the public eye. Sorry not sorry. |
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The Advice Guru
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| MS2011 - 2016-02-10 10:26 AM
Red Raider - 2016-02-08 9:07 AM TXBO - 2016-02-06 12:26 PM
I also think ERA has a real problem from the fact that they have solicited contestants and rodeos from PRCA. Many of the ERA tour events will compete with PRCA events and ERA is using intellectual property from PRCA for their qualifying. Think about the basis of the suit and you'll see this really isn't a problem. If you are claiming one entity is controlling it all, it's going to be natural to use their information, processes and other aspects in your own model. The existence of the American hurts them the most on this issue because they are showing it could be done another way without using PRCA standings or past stats. The fact that the ERA has to solicit contestants and rodeo schedule times from the PRCA only goes to show the overwhelming amount of reach and control PRCA has in this area and supports the monopoly theory.
Wouldn't this support the ERA monopoly claim? The 10 who get to run at the American are the top 10 from the PRCA standings the previous year (except the bullriders).
I believe the difference in between the American and ERA is specifically the ownership.
ERA is owned by contestants
The American is not
Anyone can have a rodeo/jackpot/association and invite Prca members, but the Prca members competing cannot be owners of said jackpot/rodeo/association.
This is how the American, Calgary stampede, and Huston can use the Prca stats invite Prca members and have a rodeo |
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| MOTIVATED - 2016-02-10 3:30 PM
I will start empathizing with other people about how to keep them on the road and doing what they love for a living when they start giving a crap about me working an 8 to 5 and wishing I was doing the same thing. Sorry, its hard....but you're doing it. No one said they HAD to. I dont feel sorry for them, I dont care how they make money, its none of my business really...and at the end of the day I am not going to listen to a bunch of people whining about getting to do something that a million other people would like to do. Guess what, I dont like my job either haha.....we both have the choice to do something different. The difference is, I am not going to open my own competing company and then sue my boss for not letting me "get it started" with his paychecks....so that I am going to be 1. Ungrateful for my job 2. Sue him for not letting me start a competing company while working for him 3. cry and moan to the public (and to those without jobs) that my meany head boss wont let me come to work for him while I get a competing company up and running and trash him in the public eye. Sorry not sorry.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I feel the exact same way! |
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Location: The edge of no where | cheryl makofka - 2016-02-10 3:38 PM MS2011 - 2016-02-10 10:26 AM Red Raider - 2016-02-08 9:07 AM TXBO - 2016-02-06 12:26 PM
I also think ERA has a real problem from the fact that they have solicited contestants and rodeos from PRCA. Many of the ERA tour events will compete with PRCA events and ERA is using intellectual property from PRCA for their qualifying. Think about the basis of the suit and you'll see this really isn't a problem. If you are claiming one entity is controlling it all, it's going to be natural to use their information, processes and other aspects in your own model. The existence of the American hurts them the most on this issue because they are showing it could be done another way without using PRCA standings or past stats. The fact that the ERA has to solicit contestants and rodeo schedule times from the PRCA only goes to show the overwhelming amount of reach and control PRCA has in this area and supports the monopoly theory.
Wouldn't this support the ERA monopoly claim? The 10 who get to run at the American are the top 10 from the PRCA standings the previous year (except the bullriders).
I believe the difference in between the American and ERA is specifically the ownership. ERA is owned by contestants The American is not Anyone can have a rodeo/jackpot/association and invite Prca members, but the Prca members competing cannot be owners of said jackpot/rodeo/association. This is how the American, Calgary stampede, and Huston can use the Prca stats invite Prca members and have a rodeo
The PRCA didn't have bylaws against owners/employees etc until a couple of months ago... |
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The Advice Guru
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| MS2011 - 2016-02-10 4:13 PM
cheryl makofka - 2016-02-10 3:38 PM MS2011 - 2016-02-10 10:26 AM Red Raider - 2016-02-08 9:07 AM TXBO - 2016-02-06 12:26 PM
I also think ERA has a real problem from the fact that they have solicited contestants and rodeos from PRCA. Many of the ERA tour events will compete with PRCA events and ERA is using intellectual property from PRCA for their qualifying. Think about the basis of the suit and you'll see this really isn't a problem. If you are claiming one entity is controlling it all, it's going to be natural to use their information, processes and other aspects in your own model. The existence of the American hurts them the most on this issue because they are showing it could be done another way without using PRCA standings or past stats. The fact that the ERA has to solicit contestants and rodeo schedule times from the PRCA only goes to show the overwhelming amount of reach and control PRCA has in this area and supports the monopoly theory.
Wouldn't this support the ERA monopoly claim? The 10 who get to run at the American are the top 10 from the PRCA standings the previous year (except the bullriders).
I believe the difference in between the American and ERA is specifically the ownership. ERA is owned by contestants The American is not Anyone can have a rodeo/jackpot/association and invite Prca members, but the Prca members competing cannot be owners of said jackpot/rodeo/association. This is how the American, Calgary stampede, and Huston can use the Prca stats invite Prca members and have a rodeo
There were never any organization owners competing in the Prca up until the era.
The rodeos I stated can still continue to invite Prca members to attend as there is no conflict of interest |
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| Looks like some people have already dropped out of the ERA. The rosters no longer show 10 in each event. Wonder if/how they are going to fill those spots.
http://eraprorodeo.com/tour-rosters/ |
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Location: The stix of Utah | And why is Sherry's picture the watermark on the barrel racers page if she isn't competing? I don't know why that bothers me so much but it does. |
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| 3 To Go - 2016-02-11 1:32 PM Looks like some people have already dropped out of the ERA. The rosters no longer show 10 in each event. Wonder if/how they are going to fill those spots.
http://eraprorodeo.com/tour-rosters/
And still no bull riding roster........ |
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Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | Jaders Mom - 2016-02-11 1:36 PM And why is Sherry's picture the watermark on the barrel racers page if she isn't competing? I don't know why that bothers me so much but it does.
I'd swear she was on the roster a couple of weeks ago when I looked. It probably just needs updated. |
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| Very interesting that they have had some drop. I counted 4 who have dropped (Cervi, Petska, Gorsuch, DeMoss). |
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| MS2011 - 2016-02-11 1:48 PM
Jaders Mom - 2016-02-11 1:36 PM And why is Sherry's picture the watermark on the barrel racers page if she isn't competing? I don't know why that bothers me so much but it does.
I'd swear she was on the roster a couple of weeks ago when I looked. It probably just needs updated.
She was. 1st on the list. |
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| MS2011 - 2016-02-11 12:48 PM
Jaders Mom - 2016-02-11 1:36 PM And why is Sherry's picture the watermark on the barrel racers page if she isn't competing? I don't know why that bothers me so much but it does.
I'd swear she was on the roster a couple of weeks ago when I looked. It probably just needs updated.
I doubt it. People are jumping ship. I've heard of 4 now.
As for the bull riding, the PBR has basically done the same thing the PRCA did. Those guys aren't willing to give up the ability to do the PBR and PRCA for the ERA. It just isn't news that anyone is talking about. |
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| Very interesting that she would drop the ERA when so far it hasn't affected the barrel racing really....or has it? you think maybe she did it because she is hauling with Cory? |
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| I just realize that spouses are in that bi-law with the PRCA! ! now it makes sense why she is out. |
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| I dont have a problem with rodeo contestants wanting to have the oppourtunity to win more money. Rodeo athletes do not get paid on the same scale as other professional athletes, I get it and I am ampethetic to that. I know ladies married to some of the PRCAs top contenders. They have financial highs and lows. Usually they are hoping for a good NFR to finish the year in the green. I do hope for a future that enables rodeo athletes to make a more sustainable living. WITH THAT BEING SAID... I was kinda turned off by a post made to social media by a calf roper that I am a fan of. "Ive spent 5 million to earn 3.5 million" and crying about having to ride on charter planes, among other things. I love watching this guy compete but my gosh! FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS. At the end of the day it is a CHOICE!!! Go get a job, farm cattle, fix radiators (lol), use that degree you paid for..whatever! It just comes off crummy to me when there are lots of people out of work/facing much more serious problems.
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 Toastest with the Mostest
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Location: That part of Texas | miss_n_cinch13 - 2016-02-10 9:25 AM Red Raider - 2016-02-08 9:07 AM TXBO - 2016-02-06 12:26 PM
I also think ERA has a real problem from the fact that they have solicited contestants and rodeos from PRCA. Many of the ERA tour events will compete with PRCA events and ERA is using intellectual property from PRCA for their qualifying. Think about the basis of the suit and you'll see this really isn't a problem. If you are claiming one entity is controlling it all, it's going to be natural to use their information, processes and other aspects in your own model. The existence of the American hurts them the most on this issue because they are showing it could be done another way without using PRCA standings or past stats. The fact that the ERA has to solicit contestants and rodeo schedule times from the PRCA only goes to show the overwhelming amount of reach and control PRCA has in this area and supports the monopoly theory. I have a question about the monopoly theory. Can they claim this when you factor in the number of Amateur/Non PRCA associations we have? Like the IPRA, ACRA, CRRA, UPRA, etc?
Yes they still can -- especially when it goes to show that even with the other associations, it's still the PRCA with a stronghold at the top of the game. If you want to be at the top of the game of rodeo, you have to go through PRCA or it's nothing. By PRCA saying that you cannot be part of some of these other organizations and stay with us, it's what creates that conflict and makes the monopoly/anti-trust provisions come into play. |
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Location: That part of Texas | MS2011 - 2016-02-10 10:26 AM Red Raider - 2016-02-08 9:07 AM TXBO - 2016-02-06 12:26 PM
I also think ERA has a real problem from the fact that they have solicited contestants and rodeos from PRCA. Many of the ERA tour events will compete with PRCA events and ERA is using intellectual property from PRCA for their qualifying. Think about the basis of the suit and you'll see this really isn't a problem. If you are claiming one entity is controlling it all, it's going to be natural to use their information, processes and other aspects in your own model. The existence of the American hurts them the most on this issue because they are showing it could be done another way without using PRCA standings or past stats. The fact that the ERA has to solicit contestants and rodeo schedule times from the PRCA only goes to show the overwhelming amount of reach and control PRCA has in this area and supports the monopoly theory.
Wouldn't this support the ERA monopoly claim? The 10 who get to run at the American are the top 10 from the PRCA standings the previous year (except the bullriders).
I didn't realize that the American picked it's own contestants that way. To be honest, I haven't really paid attention to that. In that aspect, it helps the ERA argument instead of possibly hurting it. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | MOTIVATED - 2016-02-11 2:30 PM
I will start empathizing with other people about how to keep them on the road and doing what they love for a living when they start giving a crap about me working an 8 to 5 and wishing I was doing the same thing. Sorry, its hard....but you're doing it. No one said they HAD to. I dont feel sorry for them, I dont care how they make money, its none of my business really...and at the end of the day I am not going to listen to a bunch of people whining about getting to do something that a million other people would like to do. Guess what, I dont like my job either haha.....we both have the choice to do something different. The difference is, I am not going to open my own competing company and then sue my boss for not letting me "get it started" with his paychecks....so that I am going to be 1. Ungrateful for my job 2. Sue him for not letting me start a competing company while working for him 3. cry and moan to the public (and to those without jobs) that my meany head boss wont let me come to work for him while I get a competing company up and running and trash him in the public eye. Sorry not sorry.
That is very very well stated.....m |
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