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Location: Where I am happiest | tebar - 2016-02-26 3:32 PM Did they do a Fantasy Rodeo for this rodeo? Like where you bought riders and teams and it paid back? If so, I think that is where your Fed's would come in if it was, when gambling is involed, there is a new set of rules.
Yes, there was a fantasy rodeo team but it didnt cost anything. Although they were giving away a polaras. So I dont know how that works? |
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| jd&ez - 2016-02-27 7:14 AM If this class is the only one that wasn't paid out then they probably have a good reason to wait. If none of the classes have been paid then then maybe they would be trying to pull a NasHorse on everyone?
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | J Cunningham - 2016-02-26 3:50 PM
mreklaw - 2016-02-26 1:34 PM
smak - 2016-02-26 2:38 PM
Yes actually I do know for a fact that it was said, the person that said it is who told me that he said it! TC is not the person everyone thinks he is I know this as I have had to deal with him at a big roping and he was not the most friendly roper there! (I am not sure how to comment back on my post to answer the question)
If you didn't HEAR it yourself then it's here say!
It's HEARSAY !!
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| I just have to say a few things. I am really disappointed that people are considering these individuals guilty based on the opinions and hearsay of people on a forum. If it was so black and white, I would imagine they proper authorities would have made a decision/indictment or whatever repercussions necessary by now if it was that easy. Clearly, it's not as cut and dry as some of you think. Prosecuting someone online is beyond frustrating to me.
Secondly before anyone says it, I am a big tc fan but not in the boy band, squirmy girl kind of way. I was at the American last year and he was so polite and really went out of his way to make every fan seem important. We ran into him walking to our car and he took a picture and carried a genuine conversation with us. Based on that, I'm going to need a lot more evidence than a bunch of hearsay to write him off as an "unchristian cheater."
Anyone ever consider and I'm not saying this is true that the individual who is making these allegations was upset from a loss that day? Im not saying he did that because I don't like to assume but if we're going to make assumptions isn't that entirely possible? I've seen all too often how sore of losers there can be.
All of the critiques from his run that night are nothing more than pieces you've all put together to try and add more to this story. Have you watched how often people make split decisions in a run? Some good, some bad, some safety up.... if this issue wouldn't have arisen, I don't think It would have ever been mentioned whether he made one wrap or two.
And I'm not saying he's innocent because I don't know all the facts but what I do know is that none of you know either. And obviously it's a year long investigation so it's obviously not a slam dunk. Publicly shaming people is nothing more than bullying.
For the sake of The American, I hope they sort it out. I hope we don't have that greedy of people in our sport. And I hope it doesn't ruin it for years to come.
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | NJJ - 2016-02-28 7:05 PM Karma got one today........LOL
What an ugly and utterly rude thing to say about somebody based on an unfounded rumor. "FACT Checker"? I don't think so. Last I looked, even with Obama as President, this is still AMERICA, where one is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. And yes, I do believe in karma, so if I were you, I'd be looking over my shoulder. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | stayceem - 2016-02-28 11:06 PM I just have to say a few things. I am really disappointed that people are considering these individuals guilty based on the opinions and hearsay of people on a forum. If it was so black and white, I would imagine they proper authorities would have made a decision/indictment or whatever repercussions necessary by now if it was that easy. Clearly, it's not as cut and dry as some of you think. Prosecuting someone online is beyond frustrating to me. Secondly before anyone says it, I am a big tc fan but not in the boy band, squirmy girl kind of way. I was at the American last year and he was so polite and really went out of his way to make every fan seem important. We ran into him walking to our car and he took a picture and carried a genuine conversation with us. Based on that, I'm going to need a lot more evidence than a bunch of hearsay to write him off as an "unchristian cheater." Anyone ever consider and I'm not saying this is true that the individual who is making these allegations was upset from a loss that day? Im not saying he did that because I don't like to assume but if we're going to make assumptions isn't that entirely possible? I've seen all too often how sore of losers there can be. All of the critiques from his run that night are nothing more than pieces you've all put together to try and add more to this story. Have you watched how often people make split decisions in a run? Some good, some bad, some safety up.... if this issue wouldn't have arisen, I don't think It would have ever been mentioned whether he made one wrap or two. And I'm not saying he's innocent because I don't know all the facts but what I do know is that none of you know either. And obviously it's a year long investigation so it's obviously not a slam dunk. Publicly shaming people is nothing more than bullying. For the sake of The American, I hope they sort it out. I hope we don't have that greedy of people in our sport. And I hope it doesn't ruin it for years to come. Flame away I suppose.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CrossCreek - 2016-02-28 11:13 PM NJJ - 2016-02-28 7:05 PM Karma got one today........LOL
What an ugly and utterly rude thing to say about somebody based on an unfounded rumor. "FACT Checker"? I don't think so. Last I looked, even with Obama as President, this is still AMERICA, where one is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. And yes, I do believe in karma, so if I were you, I'd be looking over my shoulder.
You are correct....it was rude and I apologize....
I guess I have more knowledge of his "family" connections.....and he HAS learned a few from his father....all that I am going to say......I certainly hope it isn't true but I don't think the "Feds", etc would be involved IF there wasn't a grain of truth there...... Thanks for the warning though......I will be watching my back (from you.....lol) |
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Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. |
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 10:31 AM
Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Â Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. Â
And just because you dont like someone... doesnt mean everything negative thing you HEAR is true. Your theory works both ways. 
And if you read my post, I am not denying anything happened. I am simply stating that none of us know the facts. The fact that there is an investigation means that there were allegations and with that amount of money, they are going to look into it. With that said, the fact that there has been no resolution also means that this is not an easily proven case.
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Location: 'Hawk Country | stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 10:31 AM
Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. And just because you dont like someone... doesnt mean everything negative thing you HEAR is true. Your theory works both ways. And if you read my post, I am not denying anything happened. I am simply stating that none of us know the facts. The fact that there is an investigation means that there were allegations and with that amount of money, they are going to look into it. With that said, the fact that there has been no resolution also means that this is not an easily proven case. All I am saying is leave the law & order to the proper authorities.
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 11:33 AM
stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 10:31 AM
Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Â Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. Â And just because you dont like someone... doesnt mean everything negative thing you HEAR is true. Your theory works both ways. And if you read my post, I am not denying anything happened. I am simply stating that none of us know the facts. The fact that there is an investigation means that there were allegations and with that amount of money, they are going to look into it. With that said, the fact that there has been no resolution also means that this is not an easily proven case. All I am saying is leave the law & order to the proper authorities.
Okay. So far I have only heard that so and so told you or so and so told, so and so who told you. Thats not facts. Unless you were one of the people approached, its not actual useable evidence.
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Location: 'Hawk Country | stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:45 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 11:33 AM stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 10:31 AM
Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. And just because you dont like someone... doesnt mean everything negative thing you HEAR is true. Your theory works both ways. And if you read my post, I am not denying anything happened. I am simply stating that none of us know the facts. The fact that there is an investigation means that there were allegations and with that amount of money, they are going to look into it. With that said, the fact that there has been no resolution also means that this is not an easily proven case. All I am saying is leave the law & order to the proper authorities. Okay. So far I have only heard that so and so told you or so and so told, so and so who told you. Thats not facts. Unless you were one of the people approached, its not actual useable evidence. I will let the proper authorities do their jobs.
Careful sister, I never wrote anything like that. You have no clue who's lips I heard it from. However, the authorities heard the same thing, from those same lips. |
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 11:53 AM
stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:45 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 11:33 AM stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 10:31 AM
Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Â Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. Â And just because you dont like someone... doesnt mean everything negative thing you HEAR is true. Your theory works both ways. And if you read my post, I am not denying anything happened. I am simply stating that none of us know the facts. The fact that there is an investigation means that there were allegations and with that amount of money, they are going to look into it. With that said, the fact that there has been no resolution also means that this is not an easily proven case. All I am saying is leave the law & order to the proper authorities. Okay. So far I have only heard that so and so told you or so and so told, so and so who told you. Thats not facts. Unless you were one of the people approached, its not actual useable evidence. I will let the proper authorities do their jobs.
I apologize for not clarifying... thus far in this thread... I have only heard people say they have heard it from so and so... Which is why I posted me OP.
Then if the authorities have heard this, let them deal with it. And the truth will come out. I dont know you from adam. Dont know if what you said it true. Dont know that its not. I just feel that it will resolve itself and we will all know then at that point. |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:57 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 11:53 AM stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:45 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 11:33 AM stayceem - 2016-02-29 11:29 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2016-02-29 10:31 AM
Just because YOU haven't heard about something doesn't mean it isn't true. Also, just because you are a fan of someone and don't want it to be true, don't attack people who do know or have seen things you don't want to believe. And just because you dont like someone... doesnt mean everything negative thing you HEAR is true. Your theory works both ways. And if you read my post, I am not denying anything happened. I am simply stating that none of us know the facts. The fact that there is an investigation means that there were allegations and with that amount of money, they are going to look into it. With that said, the fact that there has been no resolution also means that this is not an easily proven case. All I am saying is leave the law & order to the proper authorities. Okay. So far I have only heard that so and so told you or so and so told, so and so who told you. Thats not facts. Unless you were one of the people approached, its not actual useable evidence. I will let the proper authorities do their jobs. I apologize for not clarifying... thus far in this thread... I have only heard people say they have heard it from so and so... Which is why I posted me OP. Then if the authorities have heard this, let them deal with it. And the truth will come out. I dont know you from adam. Dont know if what you said it true. Dont know that its not. I just feel that it will resolve itself and we will all know then at that point.
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | NJJ - 2016-02-29 9:23 AM
CrossCreek - 2016-02-28 11:13 PM NJJ - 2016-02-28 7:05 PM Karma got one today........LOL
 What an ugly and utterly rude thing to say about somebody based on an unfounded rumor. "FACT Checker"? I don't think so. Last I looked, even with Obama as President, this is still AMERICA, where one is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. And yes, I do believe in karma, so if I were you, I'd be looking over my shoulder.Â
I guess I have more knowledge of his "family" connections.....and he HAS learned a few from his father....all that I am going to say......I certainly hope it isn't true but I don't think the "Feds", etc would be involved IF there wasn't a grain of truth there...... Thanks for the warning though......I will be watching my back (from you.....lol)Â
Hey, NJJ...apology accepted :) Thank you :) No bad vibes coming at you from this direction, LOL! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Well, if the winner cashes the check in his name, he will be required to pay all the taxes on it, It's hard to come out on top that way. |
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| Lol! Got to agree on that one. Seems as though it doesn't matter what Golden Boy does, he is never in the wrong to his fans. I think it is all just going to blow over unfortunately. According to one party, he hasn't even been questioned yet so that tells you how hard they are investigating. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-02-25 4:30 PM
NJJ - 2016-02-25 4:26 PM SKM - 2016-02-25 4:23 PM CrossCreek - 2016-02-25 2:11 PM smak - 2016-02-25 8:21 AM There were actually 2 "pros" and 2 guys who could go for the million. One of the guys who could go for the million declined the "pros" offer and told the one he needed to take Jesus off his shirt. It was not a good deal at all! I'm hot, about 2 things. A. You present your statement as fact, when I really doubt you could know, unless you were standing there and somehow INVOLVED, and B. You are in fact SAYING that Tuff Cooper was one of the pros. That's a pretty strong allegation, sir, or maam...I hope you know what you are talking about. Fact: the Feds felt there was enough evidence that they are investigating the allegations. Fact: Tuf was not invited back to The American this year. Fact: while Tuf is a nice enough guy, a choir boy he is not.
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