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Location: Florida.. | Alot of clients wanted their horses on it for 2 minutes high 4 minutes low then 4 minutes high.. we had one at barn, had stocks they would walk right on.. Horses were all relaxed on it .. a working student would stand near by in case freak outs but none happened.. then the horses would go back to their stalls.. no real differance other then its like a spa day. a massage. lol.. and it was the "in" thing so clients thought it was cool.. helped or not I dont know.. it didnt hurt the horse though..Personally I get on a treadmill and the vibration from it makes me all wobbly when I get off it. lol. |
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Location: north dakota | My only experience I had with a theraplate (similar product) was a 70 year old male patient I had in the ER for a possible hip fracture. When I asked him what happened he said he was using a vibrator and when he was done he got dizzy and fell. Turns out it was a vibrating plate that he bought off of the TV for a bargain price of $2500. He had it shipped to his place and the first time he used it, he got really dizzy and when he stepped off he tripped and fell. He bought it because it was suppose to improve his health. He did in fact break his hip.
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 Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | GLP - 2016-04-06 6:21 PM
dashnlotti - 2016-04-06 5:27 PM
My vet purchased a human version for his wife. I forget what her health issue is...
But, he said all it did for him was make him release tension in the form of gas. Thanks doc 
Did he say if it helped his wife ?
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Location: Jersey Girl | LabRat - 2016-04-06 12:59 PM Year after year, I see barrel racers pouring thousands of dollars in to alternative therapy, gadgets and treatments. All to which their horses continue to run about the same, with no drastic improvement. What's the cost/benefit factor? Peace of mind for yourself? What I guess I'm saying is a person sure can get carried away with the latest and greatest, and money might be better off spent on lessons and/or training as a way to improve their game.
Back in the day when I did game shows, my horse did 6-12 events in a single day. He didn't get anything other then an absorbine bath afterwards. I fed him to the best of my knowledge then. No supplements, oral or IM. No PHT, no BOT. In between shows I trail rode. ALOT. For HOURS at at time. And you know what? He lived to be 30 with no issues. NONE. My point is makes me wonder about all this stuff too.....and for horses that don't really work that hard! (compared to race horses that WORK six days a week) |
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Location: Where the long tails flow, ND | fulltiltfilly - 2016-04-07 10:01 AM LabRat - 2016-04-06 12:59 PM Year after year, I see barrel racers pouring thousands of dollars in to alternative therapy, gadgets and treatments. All to which their horses continue to run about the same, with no drastic improvement. What's the cost/benefit factor? Peace of mind for yourself? What I guess I'm saying is a person sure can get carried away with the latest and greatest, and money might be better off spent on lessons and/or training as a way to improve their game. Back in the day when I did game shows, my horse did 6-12 events in a single day. He didn't get anything other then an absorbine bath afterwards. I fed him to the best of my knowledge then. No supplements, oral or IM. No PHT, no BOT. In between shows I trail rode. ALOT. For HOURS at at time. And you know what? He lived to be 30 with no issues. NONE. My point is makes me wonder about all this stuff too.....and for horses that don't really work that hard! (compared to race horses that WORK six days a week)
I was just talking about this to my friend. I always did every event a horse shows with my horse when we were little, the ground was NEVER worked, liniment was the only special thing my horse got. And god forbid if my saddle actually fit!?
I know for a fact my horses are spoiled now, but its the nature of the beast I think?! lol If you don't you will be an outcast
He's 24 not, never been lame, and still running.......things that make you go hmmmm |
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Location: Jersey Girl | SmokinGirlie - 2016-04-07 11:07 AM fulltiltfilly - 2016-04-07 10:01 AM LabRat - 2016-04-06 12:59 PM Year after year, I see barrel racers pouring thousands of dollars in to alternative therapy, gadgets and treatments. All to which their horses continue to run about the same, with no drastic improvement. What's the cost/benefit factor? Peace of mind for yourself? What I guess I'm saying is a person sure can get carried away with the latest and greatest, and money might be better off spent on lessons and/or training as a way to improve their game. Back in the day when I did game shows, my horse did 6-12 events in a single day. He didn't get anything other then an absorbine bath afterwards. I fed him to the best of my knowledge then. No supplements, oral or IM. No PHT, no BOT. In between shows I trail rode. ALOT. For HOURS at at time. And you know what? He lived to be 30 with no issues. NONE. My point is makes me wonder about all this stuff too.....and for horses that don't really work that hard! (compared to race horses that WORK six days a week)
I know for a fact my horses are spoiled now, but its the nature of the beast I think?! lol If you don't you will be an outcast
He's 24 not, never been lame, and still running.......things that make you go hmmmm
Yeah mine are spoiled too!! I do have a BOT sheet and the quick wraps I use on him at shows. I do like the BOT I have used those on myself and they did help. |
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Location: So Cal | Reminds me of being at the NBHA race in Vegas, stalled next to someone who left their horse's stall full of pee, adding to the horrible ammonia smell that place ends up having that burns your nose, but don't worry, they put those nasal strips on their horse so he could breathe!  |
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Location: So Cal | Good basic horse care does more than most of the gimmicky stuff. Hardly anyone truly walks their horse out well after a run if you pay attention (and a lot don't warm up properly beforehand). That was something that was instilled in me young and makes a bigger difference than anything in stiffness and swelling. I walk my horse out from on top of her for awhile, then unsaddle and go walk some more. When staying somewhere for a race, I'm getting my horse out to walk all the time if she's being kept in a small stall... common sense. |
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | turnnburnkota - 2016-04-07 8:54 AM
Reminds me of being at the NBHA race in Vegas, stalled next to someone who left their horse's stall full of pee, adding to the horrible ammonia smell that place ends up having that burns your nose, but don't worry, they put those nasal strips on their horse so he could breathe!
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| fulltiltfilly - 2016-04-07 10:01 AM LabRat - 2016-04-06 12:59 PM Year after year, I see barrel racers pouring thousands of dollars in to alternative therapy, gadgets and treatments. All to which their horses continue to run about the same, with no drastic improvement. What's the cost/benefit factor? Peace of mind for yourself? What I guess I'm saying is a person sure can get carried away with the latest and greatest, and money might be better off spent on lessons and/or training as a way to improve their game. Back in the day when I did game shows, my horse did 6-12 events in a single day. He didn't get anything other then an absorbine bath afterwards. I fed him to the best of my knowledge then. No supplements, oral or IM. No PHT, no BOT. In between shows I trail rode. ALOT. For HOURS at at time. And you know what? He lived to be 30 with no issues. NONE. My point is makes me wonder about all this stuff too.....and for horses that don't really work that hard! (compared to race horses that WORK six days a week)
This is a great point. Do we prepare our horses physically so they're able to withstand the hard turns, sprinting, and varying ground conditions? This may be off topic of the TheraPlate, but perhaps if we trained and rode our horses BALANCED, we wouldn't be throwing their bodies out of whack, and ultimately creating injuries. If my horse can't survive a weekend jackpot without all of the special treatments in between runs, maybe I shouldn't be running them. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | LabRat - 2016-04-08 9:34 AM
fulltiltfilly - 2016-04-07 10:01 AM LabRat - 2016-04-06 12:59 PM Year after year, I see barrel racers pouring thousands of dollars in to alternative therapy, gadgets and treatments. All to which their horses continue to run about the same, with no drastic improvement. What's the cost/benefit factor? Peace of mind for yourself? What I guess I'm saying is a person sure can get carried away with the latest and greatest, and money might be better off spent on lessons and/or training as a way to improve their game. Back in the day when I did game shows, my horse did 6-12 events in a single day. He didn't get anything other then an absorbine bath afterwards. I fed him to the best of my knowledge then. No supplements, oral or IM. No PHT, no BOT. In between shows I trail rode. ALOT. For HOURS at at time. And you know what? He lived to be 30 with no issues. NONE. My point is makes me wonder about all this stuff too.....and for horses that don't really work that hard! (compared to race horses that WORK six days a week)
This is a great point. Do we prepare our horses physically so they're able to withstand the hard turns, sprinting, and varying ground conditions? This may be off topic of the TheraPlate, but perhaps if we trained and rode our horses BALANCED, we wouldn't be throwing their bodies out of whack, and ultimately creating injuries. If my horse can't survive a weekend jackpot without all of the special treatments in between runs, maybe I shouldn't be running them.
This...I grew up on a QH/Arab cross mare. Until I got a job at 16 and could afford to have her shod I did my own trims on her, she got fed good clean hay and oats, no supplements and had a salt block. I ran barrels, poles, break away roped, team roped and played in the cutting pen to try to pick up points in HS rodeo, the guys used her to steer wrestle off of, the only time she wasn't in the arena performing was rough stock events. If I wasn't at school I was on her back in the creek riding. I also ran game shows on her. When I had to have her put down at 33 years old she was still sound and I don't remember her ever taking a bad step. I don't even think I owned bell boots back then either. At 28 the little girl down the road used her for HS rodeo for poles and barrels, they ended up in the top 5 in the district for poles. I quit running her when she was 30 but still hauled her with me to the game shows and let kids use her for lead line classes or she got depressed. |
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Off the Wall Wacky
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Location: Louisiana | turnnburnkota - 2016-04-07 10:57 AM
Good basic horse care does more than most of the gimmicky stuff. Hardly anyone truly walks their horse out well after a run if you pay attention (and a lot don't warm up properly beforehand). That was something that was instilled in me young and makes a bigger difference than anything in stiffness and swelling. I walk my horse out from on top of her for awhile, then unsaddle and go walk some more. When staying somewhere for a race, I'm getting my horse out to walk all the time if she's being kept in a small stall... common sense.
I am often the ONLY person walking my horse after a rodeo or barrel race. And people look at me like I'm crazy for walking around the warmup area on foot lol.
I haul with a friend and her horse goes straight to the trailer and she will leave him saddled until it's time to go. I've made people wait on me to go home bc it was my horse's dinner time and by golly he was gonna eat before the 5 hour drive home!!
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| Heck I get dirty looks if I take a horse through the pattern without protective boots on. Those boots didn't exist back then. And as far as walking a horse out, after a 15 second run, if the walk back to the trailer is not sufficient then I am doing something wrong. My friend walked my horses out for a half hour after making a run and it piffed my ponies off.
Y'all have a point, BUT....
I also remember horses that went through bits, riders and abuse because they quit working.....because they hurt. They never went to the vet. I also think were are breeding unsoundness in to them.
So who is right? If they are not spending MY money I don't really care how they spend theirs. |
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| rodeoveteran - 2016-04-07 10:09 AM Heck I get dirty looks if I take a horse through the pattern without protective boots on. Those boots didn't exist back then. And as far as walking a horse out, after a 15 second run, if the walk back to the trailer is not sufficient then I am doing something wrong. My friend walked my horses out for a half hour after making a run and it piffed my ponies off. Y'all have a point, BUT.... I also remember horses that went through bits, riders and abuse because they quit working.....because they hurt. They never went to the vet. I also think were are breeding unsoundness in to them. So who is right? If they are not spending MY money I don't really care how they spend theirs.
Totally agree. To each their own. Whatever works for you and your horse. So much judgment on what others are doing or not doing. If it doesn't affect you why spend time worrying about it. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | After the gymkhana this weekend I hosed the horses off, and put poultice on their legs and then handwalked them for a while. As I was headed around near the announcers table everyone looked at my horses and asked if they had gotten hurt. Nope, just trying to prevent problems. You know what they say about an ounce of prevention...I bioscanned them when we got home too. My little HS rodeo mare would have thought I'd fallen off something and bumped my head, LOL!!! You do the best you can until you know more and then you do better right? |
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| This is a little off topic since Iv never even seen a theraplate in person. . . but I too ran playdays when I was a kid, and each horse ran 4-5 events a day. We hauled in a stock trailer, didnt know what leg boots were, or linament, and never had an issue. Im totally the opposite now and the biggest reason is the horses I rode then were 3d barrel horses that came from a long line of nothing but work horses. If you have a "well bred" horse now days, they are a lot more sensitive to things than they used to be. Partly because they have been bred that way. They put more effort into a run that my horses did when I was a kid too. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Exaclty, I think in breeding speed into them, they are running fast enough to tear themselves up too. |
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Location: western Nebraska | I have a human one-it is called a sunny. I think it is being sold as a weight loss thing. I haven't lost any weight on it though and that was not why I bought it. I have had a lot of horse wrecks with lots of broken bones and I am sore all the time. The first week I think I got worse and then got way better. It must have started loosing up all the scar tissue-I have no clue. Anyway I got busy this winter and it because a store all. I just started back using it and it is great. But I always see the horse ones at the big shows and my from own personal experience I was worse the first few times so I don't see the benefit of putting your horse on it at a show for one or two times when you are there to run. |
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| run n rate - 2016-04-07 1:32 PM
Exaclty, I think in breeding speed into them, they are running fast enough to tear themselves up too.
I agree with your statement that today's barrel horses are running harder & there are challenges with them holding up physically.
I talked to the stallion manager at Lazy E last year. He expressed his opinion that the QH race industry is breeding the bone and feet right out of horses. I think the barrel industry has done the same, to some degree. Pedigree name is often favored over a solid conformation, strictly for marketability purposes. That said, of course we'd all love to have as much pedigree, conformation, eye appeal as possible.
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| rodeoveteran - 2016-04-07 12:09 PM Heck I get dirty looks if I take a horse through the pattern without protective boots on. Those boots didn't exist back then. And as far as walking a horse out, after a 15 second run, if the walk back to the trailer is not sufficient then I am doing something wrong. My friend walked my horses out for a half hour after making a run and it piffed my ponies off. Y'all have a point, BUT.... I also remember horses that went through bits, riders and abuse because they quit working.....because they hurt. They never went to the vet. I also think were are breeding unsoundness in to them. So who is right? If they are not spending MY money I don't really care how they spend theirs.
I keep mine in good shape, I don't ask for all out, I am usually in the bottom of the 2D or top of the 3D. Mine are not even breathing hard by the time we walk back to the trailer after a run. |
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