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| Has anyone ever tried Crypt Aero feed? It is suppose to be separate facility from any med feed. It is very expensive though. We are going to try a bag or two and see what they horses think. We also talked to Tribute this morning and were assured that this was not an issue they are still a separate facility and clean and safe. They were going to get us there test results and documentation to prove it so I hope they do. |
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Location: Deep South | 3canstorun - 2016-08-17 2:27 PM
No, they are not.
I was told Purina mills it's horse feed in separate facilities. Is that not true? |
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Location: OH. IO | Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start. |
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| cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 2:28 PM
Fancy Lass - 2016-08-17 2:19 PM
Are all purina plants ionophore free ? I read at one point they were not . Just trying to get all my facts straight before I go said gig companies.. Again..
I have been told they are not all clean and most mill both but have separate lines but could still cause cross contamination. I could be wrong just what has been passed along to me.
I feed purina strategy healthy edge... before I read about the possible issue with tribute, after I fed Saturday morning, my horse was acting "off" laying down, almost colic like symptoms, heavy breathing a little moaning, and just off.. I know this horse so well, I knew something wasn't right. I haven't fed it since... just because I'm paranoid beyond something was wrong. He ended up being ok the next few days, back to normal. I'm not saying it's because of the feed, but I can't 100% rule it out either because different purina mills do things differently.. I know it has been discussed they use seperated "lines " for horse feed but they also make medicated feed on their premises. Call me paranoid, because on this issue I most definitely am after seeing what some went thru on here and on facebook. I quit feeding it, dumped what I had left and made the hour drive to a blue bonnet dealer and stocked up. Blue bonnet has 1 mill, (correct me if I'm wrong) in Oklahoma that is absolutely 100% medication free facility. |
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| I've asked the question before to purina about seperated lines for horse feed and medicated feed, I got the same answer twice, that they follow a strict protocol on cleaning machines in between batches to ensure no cross contamination can occur. Never did get a straight yes or no on seperated lines... just not good enough for me anymore. Like I said, my horse acting off could have just been a coincidence or weather change or whatever because the other 2 didn't have any issue on the same feed, but I've learned that there could be hot spots in bags or some horses are more sensitive... I don't want to have to hold my breath and worry every time I dump feed to my horses. |
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Location: southeast Texas | And just how do they "clean" their lines? Many years ago, I was feeding a feed that wasn't supposed to have corn in it ( no I don't remember the brand ) every once in a while I would find odd pieces of corn scattered thru the bag.
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| jake16 - 2016-08-17 2:56 PM
Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start.
That is the same information that I received when I contacted them this morning. Maybe we should meet and do a tour together - two brains are better than one.
I live about 4 hours from the plant. |
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| Tmain - 2016-08-17 5:14 PM
jake16 - 2016-08-17 2:56 PM
Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start.
That is the same information that I received when I contacted them this morning. Maybe we should meet and do a tour together - two brains are better than one.
I live about 4 hours from the plant.
I spoke with my area rep today. He said the plant is 100% free of ionophore. They sent multiple samples to get tested and they all came back fine. He said that "batch in question" has fed 1000's of other horses without any known issues. He also invited me to tour their facility. I don't know what's true and what isn't but I'm not ready to throw the whole company under the bus just yet.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | roanrider - 2016-08-17 4:33 PM Tmain - 2016-08-17 5:14 PM jake16 - 2016-08-17 2:56 PM Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start. That is the same information that I received when I contacted them this morning. Maybe we should meet and do a tour together - two brains are better than one. I live about 4 hours from the plant. I spoke with my area rep today. He said the plant is 100% free of ionophore. They sent multiple samples to get tested and they all came back fine. He said that "batch in question" has fed 1000's of other horses without any known issues. He also invited me to tour their facility. I don't know what's true and what isn't but I'm not ready to throw the whole company under the bus just yet.
Hummm, I wonder why they sent off a sample to be tested if the mill is 100% free of ionophore. If this is a mill for horses only I would think there would be no worriers. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-17 5:44 PM
roanrider - 2016-08-17 4:33 PM Tmain - 2016-08-17 5:14 PM jake16 - 2016-08-17 2:56 PM Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start. That is the same information that I received when I contacted them this morning. Maybe we should meet and do a tour together - two brains are better than one. I live about 4 hours from the plant. I spoke with my area rep today. He said the plant is 100% free of ionophore. They sent multiple samples to get tested and they all came back fine. He said that "batch in question" has fed 1000's of other horses without any known issues. He also invited me to tour their facility. I don't know what's true and what isn't but I'm not ready to throw the whole company under the bus just yet.
They are being sued. They would have to get tests to back up their position that the feed is safe. |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-08-17 4:44 PM
roanrider - 2016-08-17 4:33 PM Tmain - 2016-08-17 5:14 PM jake16 - 2016-08-17 2:56 PM Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start. That is the same information that I received when I contacted them this morning. Maybe we should meet and do a tour together - two brains are better than one. I live about 4 hours from the plant. I spoke with my area rep today. He said the plant is 100% free of ionophore. They sent multiple samples to get tested and they all came back fine. He said that "batch in question" has fed 1000's of other horses without any known issues. He also invited me to tour their facility. I don't know what's true and what isn't but I'm not ready to throw the whole company under the bus just yet.
They are covering their arse... I'll be very curious how this turns out. I don't even have access to Kalmbach Tribute, but I'd sure be worried if I had it in my feed room right now. |
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Location: OH. IO | Tmain - 2016-08-17 5:14 PM
jake16 - 2016-08-17 2:56 PM
Just spoke with a lady who works there.she assured me it did not happen at the equine facility and that they will be releasing a statement in the next few days.She also offered an on-site tour whenever I can get there.she also said someone will come back on here shortly to try yo clarify some things but cannot talk about lawsuit.this is just an update as to what she told me.im not sure what I will feed until this is cleared up or if I will even trust any feed company again.But I will say she went into great detail with me and at least that's a start.
That is the same information that I received when I contacted them this morning. Maybe we should meet and do a tour together - two brains are better than one.
I live about 4 hours from the plant.
I believe you are about 45 minutes from me.im also not ready to throw them under the bus just yet.But I will take precaution until I know for sure.She also said they are the ones packaging for the Michigan and I think Indiana plant.I feel more settled today than when I saw this yesterday but as I said I'm still doing what I need to do to be safe. |
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Location: Nebraska | BamaCanChaser - 2016-08-17 2:55 PM 3canstorun - 2016-08-17 2:27 PM No, they are not. I was told Purina mills it's horse feed in separate facilities. Is that not true?
that's what I thought as well. Hope someone can clear this up. |
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Location: Willows, CA | CHEETAH - 2016-08-17 11:36 AM
Not the answer if you can't get it in this area.
Call us. We can get it to you just about everywhere. 400+ more stores coming on line in September. Our office number is 855 377 3639. We will find you a store in your area, or set one up.
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| BamaCanChaser - 2016-08-17 2:55 PM
3canstorun - 2016-08-17 2:27 PM
No, they are not.
I was told Purina mills it's horse feed in separate facilities. Is that not true?
Million $ question, I was never given a straight answer... it's either yes or no. |
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| want2chase3 - 2016-08-17 3:18 PM
cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 2:28 PM
Fancy Lass - 2016-08-17 2:19 PM
Are all purina plants ionophore free ? I read at one point they were not . Just trying to get all my facts straight before I go said gig companies.. Again..
I have been told they are not all clean and most mill both but have separate lines but could still cause cross contamination. I could be wrong just what has been passed along to me.
I feed purina strategy healthy edge... before I read about the possible issue with tribute, after I fed Saturday morning, my horse was acting "off" laying down, almost colic like symptoms, heavy breathing a little moaning, and just off.. I know this horse so well, I knew something wasn't right. I haven't fed it since... just because I'm paranoid beyond something was wrong. He ended up being ok the next few days, back to normal. I'm not saying it's because of the feed, but I can't 100% rule it out either because different purina mills do things differently.. I know it has been discussed they use seperated "lines " for horse feed but they also make medicated feed on their premises. Call me paranoid, because on this issue I most definitely am after seeing what some went thru on here and on facebook. I quit feeding it, dumped what I had left and made the hour drive to a blue bonnet dealer and stocked up. Blue bonnet has 1 mill, (correct me if I'm wrong ) in Oklahoma that is absolutely 100% medication free facility.
I don't blame you I stopped feeding Triple Crown early last year for the same type of reason. I had two horses get colic symptoms and just off not bad but not right. I went and found new feed, actually started buying Tribute online and LMF which is a feed we have here that is suppose to be safe as well. I have had a horrible year with my horses and can not take chances on a grain being deadly too. I had a toxic issue with hay.
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Location: West Texas | cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 11:53 PM
want2chase3 - 2016-08-17 3:18 PM
cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 2:28 PM
Fancy Lass - 2016-08-17 2:19 PM
Are all purina plants ionophore free ? I read at one point they were not . Just trying to get all my facts straight before I go said gig companies.. Again..
I have been told they are not all clean and most mill both but have separate lines but could still cause cross contamination. I could be wrong just what has been passed along to me.
I feed purina strategy healthy edge... before I read about the possible issue with tribute, after I fed Saturday morning, my horse was acting "off" laying down, almost colic like symptoms, heavy breathing a little moaning, and just off.. I know this horse so well, I knew something wasn't right. I haven't fed it since... just because I'm paranoid beyond something was wrong. He ended up being ok the next few days, back to normal. I'm not saying it's because of the feed, but I can't 100% rule it out either because different purina mills do things differently.. I know it has been discussed they use seperated "lines " for horse feed but they also make medicated feed on their premises. Call me paranoid, because on this issue I most definitely am after seeing what some went thru on here and on facebook. I quit feeding it, dumped what I had left and made the hour drive to a blue bonnet dealer and stocked up. Blue bonnet has 1 mill, (correct me if I'm wrong ) in Oklahoma that is absolutely 100% medication free facility.
I don't blame you I stopped feeding Triple Crown early last year for the same type of reason. I had two horses get colic symptoms and just off not bad but not right. I went and found new feed, actually started buying Tribute online and LMF which is a feed we have here that is suppose to be safe as well. I have had a horrible year with my horses and can not take chances on a grain being deadly too. I had a toxic issue with hay.
You are aware that this whole thread is about a lawsuit, claiming Tribute feed caused the death of horses due to monensin poising, correct? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 11:53 PM want2chase3 - 2016-08-17 3:18 PM cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 2:28 PM Fancy Lass - 2016-08-17 2:19 PM Are all purina plants ionophore free ? I read at one point they were not . Just trying to get all my facts straight before I go said gig companies.. Again.. I have been told they are not all clean and most mill both but have separate lines but could still cause cross contamination. I could be wrong just what has been passed along to me. I feed purina strategy healthy edge... before I read about the possible issue with tribute, after I fed Saturday morning, my horse was acting "off" laying down, almost colic like symptoms, heavy breathing a little moaning, and just off.. I know this horse so well, I knew something wasn't right. I haven't fed it since... just because I'm paranoid beyond something was wrong. He ended up being ok the next few days, back to normal. I'm not saying it's because of the feed, but I can't 100% rule it out either because different purina mills do things differently.. I know it has been discussed they use seperated "lines " for horse feed but they also make medicated feed on their premises. Call me paranoid, because on this issue I most definitely am after seeing what some went thru on here and on facebook. I quit feeding it, dumped what I had left and made the hour drive to a blue bonnet dealer and stocked up. Blue bonnet has 1 mill, (correct me if I'm wrong ) in Oklahoma that is absolutely 100% medication free facility. I don't blame you I stopped feeding Triple Crown early last year for the same type of reason. I had two horses get colic symptoms and just off not bad but not right. I went and found new feed, actually started buying Tribute online and LMF which is a feed we have here that is suppose to be safe as well. I have had a horrible year with my horses and can not take chances on a grain being deadly too. I had a toxic issue with hay.
It's not Monensin in this article, but Triple Crown has issues too.
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/burden-proof-iowa-trainer-proves-feed-contamination-caused-ractopamine-positives/#.V6UZhpcY3-0.facebook |
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Location: Kentucky | Tdove - 2016-08-18 10:20 AM cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 11:53 PM want2chase3 - 2016-08-17 3:18 PM cutnrunqhmt - 2016-08-17 2:28 PM Fancy Lass - 2016-08-17 2:19 PM Are all purina plants ionophore free ? I read at one point they were not . Just trying to get all my facts straight before I go said gig companies.. Again.. I have been told they are not all clean and most mill both but have separate lines but could still cause cross contamination. I could be wrong just what has been passed along to me. I feed purina strategy healthy edge... before I read about the possible issue with tribute, after I fed Saturday morning, my horse was acting "off" laying down, almost colic like symptoms, heavy breathing a little moaning, and just off.. I know this horse so well, I knew something wasn't right. I haven't fed it since... just because I'm paranoid beyond something was wrong. He ended up being ok the next few days, back to normal. I'm not saying it's because of the feed, but I can't 100% rule it out either because different purina mills do things differently.. I know it has been discussed they use seperated "lines " for horse feed but they also make medicated feed on their premises. Call me paranoid, because on this issue I most definitely am after seeing what some went thru on here and on facebook. I quit feeding it, dumped what I had left and made the hour drive to a blue bonnet dealer and stocked up. Blue bonnet has 1 mill, (correct me if I'm wrong ) in Oklahoma that is absolutely 100% medication free facility. I don't blame you I stopped feeding Triple Crown early last year for the same type of reason. I had two horses get colic symptoms and just off not bad but not right. I went and found new feed, actually started buying Tribute online and LMF which is a feed we have here that is suppose to be safe as well. I have had a horrible year with my horses and can not take chances on a grain being deadly too. I had a toxic issue with hay. You are aware that this whole thread is about a lawsuit, claiming Tribute feed caused the death of horses due to monensin poising, correct?
Not sure why your response was so snotty. It's a related post - feed programs from well-know feed companies.
I too switched from TC to Tribute due to colic issues. TC still denies any problems they had with their feed, even though I know of multiple people with horses who endured colic episodes on the feed. |
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