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| tin can - 2016-10-17 6:34 PM Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol.
the stock market is fixing to correct big toime not that i am smart but look at past history
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| firewaterfuelsme - 2016-10-17 5:31 PM
Debt... Huge amounts of unpayable debt. Most of those huge rigs are mortgaged to the end of time as are many horses.
This. So much this. A friend of mine has a fifteen year loan on her 2016 Dodge. A PICKUP. Like, what? She's of the mentality of, "Oh no, it only costs me $600 a month." No thought of the bigger picture.
Much less the $90,000 trailer, then the full coverage insurance to appease the banks on both.
Just no way, no way to pay it off.
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Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| tin can - 2016-10-17 5:34 PM
Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol.
Sure. Please review the ridiculous increase of the national debt and consider who is going to pay for that? That's how they got so much bigger, with bail outs and blah blah blah. Our finances are kind of like that drunk chick on the trampoline in college. It's just a matter of when she jumps a little too hard, over corrects, and lands on her head in the gravel driveway.
The Democrats of my family are famous for saying that a country shouldn't be run like a business. Well, when person hires someone, issues them W2s, borrows money, has buildings, and land, and infrastructure, they have a business.
The US needs to absolutely be run as a business. The most important thing here, regardless of the back biting and scratching, needs to be the national debt. Unless that is paid down to a manageable amount, we won't have a country to fight over.
Our government has been reckless, and all they care about is being popular enough to win the vote so they can continue to make a living. Well, sorry, but that's bad for business.
America is a pickle, and no mistake.
I don't have any answers, except term limits, and there's no politician in the world that would institute the end of their own bread and butter. |
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 Proud to be Deplorable
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| tin can - 2016-10-17 5:34 PM
Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol.
And yet 94 million fewer are working than when he took over. The stock market is a total joke it's only up because of cheap money backed up from the Fed's. It's a huge bobble getting ready to pop and it's not going to be pretty. And it has been the slowest recovery since 1948. Great job Big O...not!!! Not one of the Obama years has produced growth of 3%. You might try taking off your rose colored glasses and actually look at the facts. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Mighty Broke - 2016-10-17 12:08 PM Vickie - 2016-10-17 12:43 PM NJJ - 2016-10-17 12:15 PM Yep.....lots of "liberal" barrel racers here.....they love 4-5D payouts or equal pay-out races ....... LOL You wish, the D format didn't even exist when I was winning rodeos. But to answer the previous question: How can you call the actions of someone hired, by someone appointed by someone advising Clinton treason? Under your rules every president would be in jail. A reality check is in order. As far as emails, same thing. Do you think that Cheney should be guilty of treason? He did the same thing. I am voting for what is best for this country in my opinion.
I wish I had saved a post someone made about the Haitian's not getting the money to rebuild that was collected. They said it was a good thing that they didn't rebuild as it would have all been blown down again.. |
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Proud to be Deplorable
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| SloRide - 2016-10-17 5:43 PM
Have any of you read any of the wiki leaks emails?
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | jbhoot - 2016-10-17 7:04 PM tin can - 2016-10-17 5:34 PM Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol. And yet 94 million fewer are working than when he took over. The stock market is a total joke it's only up because of cheap money backed up from the Fed's. It's a huge bobble getting ready to pop and it's not going to be pretty. And it has been the slowest recovery since 1948. Great job Big O...not!!! Not one of the Obama years has produced growth of 3%. You might try taking off your rose colored glasses and actually look at the facts.
All the money the Fed's are printing that isn't backed up by gold is beyond scary. Hopefully we won't be around to watch America turn completely into a third world country as it is well on it's way. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jbhoot - 2016-10-17 7:04 PM tin can - 2016-10-17 5:34 PM Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol. And yet 94 million fewer are working than when he took over. The stock market is a total joke it's only up because of cheap money backed up from the Fed's. It's a huge bobble getting ready to pop and it's not going to be pretty. And it has been the slowest recovery since 1948. Great job Big O...not!!! Not one of the Obama years has produced growth of 3%. You might try taking off your rose colored glasses and actually look at the facts.
Oh I bet he knows, he dont need those rose color glasses because he could give a rats A** about the facts.. |
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| I fail to see how I am better off than 8 years ago. I have lost my well paying job, due to market conditions in the energy field.
My electric is three times what it was, my insurance premium for the family has went up 2000.00 per month.
If we didn't live smart we would be drowning in debt. Thankful we have our house paid off and no car payments because we would be in a world of hurt because of the cost of healthcare.
I work hard to keep our grocery bill down- that is hard because the cost escalates. We raise our own beef and pork, can most of the vegetables from the garden. We are far from better than 8 years ago.
Plus interest is in the toilet and at my age I prefer more conservative methods of saving for my retirement. A whole other gripe- they take part of our paycheck for Social Security, but I will never see a piece of that for my retirement- not sure what its funding at the moment.
Grrrrr!!! |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | tin can - 2016-10-17 6:34 PM Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol.
your user name is apropos,,,,,,,,,,,because what this current admin has done is kick the can down the road for future generations to take responsiblity for.
Nothing else. |
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Proud to be Deplorable
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| Nevertooold - 2016-10-17 7:14 PM
jbhoot - 2016-10-17 7:04 PM tin can - 2016-10-17 5:34 PM Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol. And yet 94 million fewer are working than when he took over. The stock market is a total joke it's only up because of cheap money backed up from the Fed's. It's a huge bobble getting ready to pop and it's not going to be pretty. And it has been the slowest recovery since 1948. Great job Big O...not!!! Not one of the Obama years has produced growth of 3%. You might try taking off your rose colored glasses and actually look at the facts.
The sad part is they aren't really printing the money a lot of it is electronic just a couple of key strokes and presto Wells Fargo gets a cheap loan and can turn around and buy FDR notes and make a profit zero risk. |
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Extreme Veteran
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Location: lone star state |
This is a long watch but well worth it. British documentary released in 2012. The world has been laughing at the USA for a long time!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU |
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 Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Do you people voting for Hillary have ANY idea what her Open Borders will do? Open for the free flowing pouring in of drugs. Crime and the drug cartels coming and going at will. Anybody that wants to come in can. No checks, no border patrol, nothing. It's open!!
? I like our constitution and bill of rights. She has told us all repeatedly she believes the supreme court has always made a mistake by standing by the second ammendment. She plans on repealing the law that prevents anybody from sueing gun manufacturers. This will put gun manufacturers out of business in short order.
So thats a great plan. Dis-arm americans and open the borders. Great plan. Talk about opening pandoras box of mayham. |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Oh, and the only third party/independant candidate thats viable and sane is Evan McMullin. In fact, he is at the top of the polls in Utah and he only announced his candidancy in aug. https://www.evanmcmullin.com/about_evan |
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Expert
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Location: The Great Northwest | American is going to continue on the spiral to more like a third world country if Hillary is elected. Prayers Americans will vote for a change and vote for Mr. Trump. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | I don't think anyone has a clue how many Hispanics are flooding into this country as I write this sad little post. Cubans, Haitians, Puerto Ricans, Asians, Arabs. Millions. and I truly believe there is a path for them to vote in this election. Trump is right. It's rigged.
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Elite Veteran
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| Vickie - 2016-10-17 10:41 AM
The fact that Russia is hacking emails to try to sway the election to their BFF Trump should make every American sit back and wonder why. It is not Hillary Clinton who will turn this country into a dictatorship. I do have one question: when Trump loses by a mile and his supporters call for a revolution, who exactly are you going to attack?
Here's an analogy question to your Russian argument
If a robber breaks into your house and finds a dead body, do you ignore the dead body and focus on the robber?
The claim that Russia is behind hacks is unproven. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | i have kicked every liberal out of my circles. all of them. not just the inner circle. I want nothing to do with them. i used to believe that everyone was entitled to an opinion. well guess what criminals have an opinion; they can justify killing you for $50. i refuse to be friends with someone that is putting my life in jeopardy.
I know a couple english trainers that are flaming liberals. they spew their hate all over facebook, all the while trying to slice the "humanity " into conservatives.They are basically angry people that did not succeed in their training buisness. not because of some republican policys but because of their own mistakes and condecending attitude. no one wants to take lessons from them. If you have more money than them; it must some injustice right? They put in one day of hard work and whine about it all over facebook for all the other lazy people to feel sorry for them. Well you know what? all those people with more than you, have worked that way for 35 years. they have sacrificed all those fun days you had at the shows for even longer days to get ahead. Sorry but you can't take what i have worked my whole life for...
I realize their are problems on both sides. this election is not about voting for trump. it is about sending a message to both sides. we need an overhauling in this country so that Hope of middle class is brought back. no not everyone will make it but there needs to be hope and opportunity. that is what keeps the masses in line not taking their guns.
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | It is amazing to me to see so many, on both sides of the isle complain about the corruption and lobyists but yet are voting for more of that exact thing on steroids by voting for Hillary. |
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 To the Left
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Location: Florida | I find this post sad. To kick out friends over politics? Really? They aren't losing much of a friend if you would do that. Besides which if you don't listen to both sides how can you make an intelligent decision? There are things Republicans say that make sense and that I agree with, same with Democrats. I am registered Independent but I listen to everyone and make an informed decision. |
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