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Location: OH | engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame.
If you dig even a little deeper---the core problem is the lobbyist and the money spent to get our Congress to do what THEY want. |
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Location: TEXAS | ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:26 AM I just looked at mine. Between the various tax and health insurance half of my paycheck is gone.
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Location: TEXAS | jd&ez - 2016-10-20 9:46 AM Hillary kicked his racist, bigoted arse once again. I'm sure he is glad he doesn't have to do another debate.
The GOP had the perfect chance to take the White House this election but instead they nominated this totally inept piece of crap.
Well, he is the face of the alt-right which has taken over the GOP. I understand a reasonable republican being appalled by that face but they didn't step up and stop the takeover.
The GOP nominated the one person that can't beat Clinton. And the irony is, even if he had won he is a democrat politically. You want to talk abortions? Trump has always been in favor of abortions. He only says he's not now because he is the GOP nominee.
Once this is over he will go back to his original position.
The Trump supporters have been played.
You want to talk about inept??? How about the fact that she announced on national television US response time for nuclear launch?? Are you kidding me?? Talk about unfit to be president!!  |
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Location: North Texas | Bear - 2016-10-20 11:00 AM
jd&ez - 2016-10-20 9:46 AM
 Hillary kicked his racist, bigoted arse once again. I'm sure he is glad he doesn't have to do another debate.
The GOP had the perfect chance to take the White House this election but instead they nominated this totally inept piece of crap.
Well, he is the face of the alt-right which has taken over the GOP. I understand a reasonable republican being appalled by that face but they didn't step up and stop the takeover.Â
The GOP nominated the one person that can't beat Clinton. And the irony is, even if he had won he is a democrat politically. You want to talk abortions? Trump has always been in favor of abortions. He only says he's not now because he is the GOP nominee.Â
Once this is over he will go back to his original position.Â
The Trump supporters have been played.Â
You crack me up, Mr Yellowdog.
If anyone with half a brain has been following this process they know why Trump has switched his position to pro life. He's explained it many times, and it's completely plausible. You can question the sincerity of his switch, but are you equally willing to acknowledge Hillary's flip flops?
She was opposed to Gay marriage....until she ran for POTUS.
She was a vocal supporter of NAFTA.....until she ran for POTUS.
She was a vocal advocate of the Iraq invasion......until she ran for POTUS.
She was for TPP, calling it "the gold standard"......until she ran for POTUS.
She was strongly against illegal immigration.....until she ran for POTUS.
There's a good reason why Trump cut through 16 of the best the GOP had to offer like a hot knife through butter. He didn't mince words. He spoke his mind. He called it as he saw it. He said a lot of things many people actually thought, including other candidates, but were afraid to say. He called out the political establishment on both sides for their corruption. He was unapologetic about his main thrust to put America first. Even if he loses, he was a hand grenade we needed.
Add to this summary that The Trump Organization is NOT beholden to ANY Special Interest Donors. Remember The Koch Brothers PAC refused to support him. Trump is essentially self funded with supplemental donations in the amounts of less $100 per donation.....................................
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TRUMP just went up by 3 Points. That is a 10 point swing from yesterday.
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Location: North Texas | jbhoot - 2016-10-20 11:09 AM
Vickie - 2016-10-20 10:43 AM
Bibliafarm - 2016-10-19 11:31 PM slacy09 - 2016-10-19 11:15 PM Â Let me get this straight, she wants to take our guns away partly because toddlers have killed themselves with them but she's ok with a 9 month old fetus (baby) being cut apart and suctioned out of the womb??? She is nothing but filth! And I can't imagine why anyone, including Vickie, could support someone who thinks that's perfectly fine. I dare you or anyone that supports that to Google partial birth abortions and watch the videos. If you approve, then the devil must have your soul!! agree !! Â Â
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Where is the "Live and let Live" clause in the Constitution ?
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Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:34 AM
Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 11:23 AM TXBO - 2016-10-20 12:13 PM Vickie - 2016-10-20 10:43 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-10-19 11:31 PM slacy09 - 2016-10-19 11:15 PM Â Let me get this straight, she wants to take our guns away partly because toddlers have killed themselves with them but she's ok with a 9 month old fetus (baby) being cut apart and suctioned out of the womb??? She is nothing but filth! And I can't imagine why anyone, including Vickie, could support someone who thinks that's perfectly fine. I dare you or anyone that supports that to Google partial birth abortions and watch the videos. If you approve, then the devil must have your soul!! agree !! Â Â
 http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/19/no-hillary-clinton-supreme-courts-heller-decision-wasnt-toddlers/ Â
This answer is perhaps the biggest fabrication she has stated to date! The Heller Decision specifically addressed Individual American Citizen's PERSONAL RIGHT to bear arms on their person AND in their HOME(s)!
This fabrication involving toddlers shooting themselves is, was and continues to be ludicrous! And a complete lie to implement a smoke screen. Trump was correct in regards to The Killer's response to Heller. She was upset to the point of being furious! |
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Location: North Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 11:59 AM
TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country?  how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
 Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes?
This is the classic illustration of 'trickle down' economics that The Left claims does not work. I beg to differ due to The Reagan Era 'trickle down' economics results. Anytime anyone makes more spendable money it moves! Which is why it is called 'currency'! |
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Location: North Texas | Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 12:04 PM
TXBO - 2016-10-20 12:52 PM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country?  how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
 Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes?
And America's Corporate Tax Rate is in the top tier in the World. Hence why America's Money from Corporations (and Jobs) are leaving America! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame.
Bull - it gives more to people who choose not to work - it has hurt many people with the high deductibles and increase in premiums. Insurance companies are opting out of providing insurance in the nobama exchange because they are loosing millions. Why does an insurance business have to post a loss? My opinion is - if you are in business you want to make money, not loose.
Blame who you want, but the end goal is one payor insurance. And, many medical providers (I hate that term) will quit providing care because they can't afford to practice under that system, or take cash only.
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Location: OH | 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 1:50 PM engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame. Bull - it gives more to people who choose not to work - it has hurt many people with the high deductibles and increase in premiums. Insurance companies are opting out of providing insurance in the nobama exchange because they are loosing millions. Why does an insurance business have to post a loss? My opinion is - if you are in business you want to make money, not loose.
Blame who you want, but the end goal is one payor insurance. And, many medical providers (I hate that term) will quit providing care because they can't afford to practice under that system, or take cash only.
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Location: North Texas | 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 12:50 PM
engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame.
Bull - it gives more to people who choose not to work - it has hurt many people with the high deductibles and increase in premiums. Insurance companies are opting out of providing insurance in the nobama exchange because they are loosing millions.  Why does an insurance  business have to post a loss? My opinion is - if you are in business you want to make money, not loose.Â
Blame who you want, but the end goal is one payor insurance. And, many medical providers (I hate that term) will quit providing care because they can't afford to practice under that system, or take cash only. Â
I grew up in Tennessee, (many many moons ago heheeheh), and still have family there specifically a Sister there, who is a Nurse in a Major Health Care Setting.
She was there when Al Gore implemented 'Ten Care' i.e. The Killer's Government Healthcare Plan. She states (emphatically I might add) that the leeches came out of the wood work from all over the country to Tennessee for their 'free healthcare coverage'!
So TCTR 3ctr is absolutely correct.
And to engravedinvitation, please cite specifics where the ACA i.e. Obamacare has been positive for the American Healthcare Arena. I will be totally surprised if and what the response is. Especially since I posed a very similar question to Vickie on another thread and have as of yet to receive a response. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 1:56 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 1:50 PM engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame. Bull - it gives more to people who choose not to work - it has hurt many people with the high deductibles and increase in premiums. Insurance companies are opting out of providing insurance in the nobama exchange because they are loosing millions. Why does an insurance business have to post a loss? My opinion is - if you are in business you want to make money, not loose.
Blame who you want, but the end goal is one payor insurance. And, many medical providers (I hate that term) will quit providing care because they can't afford to practice under that system, or take cash only.
Kinda like Killary wants more government regulation and more EPA control. They already have a huge head start with water bills they have passed. We have friends who plowed up their pistachio and walnut trees in CA because they can't get enough water. |
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Location: Harrisonville, Missouri | "And to engravedinvitation, please cite specifics where the ACA i.e. Obamacare has been positive for the American Healthcare Arena. I will be totally surprised if and what the response is. Especially since I posed a very similar question to Vickie on another thread and have as of yet to receive a response."
The line of work I am in, many clients have health insurance for the first time and aren't using the ER for their PCPs.
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Location: North Texas | engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM
"And to engravedinvitation, please cite specifics where the ACA i.e. Obamacare has been positive for the American Healthcare Arena. I will be totally surprised if and what the response is. Especially since I posed a very similar question to Vickie on another thread and have as of yet to receive a response."
The line of work I am in, many clients have health insurance for the first time and aren't using the ER for their PCPs.
And how much (and who) is paying for said coverage. Also, what is the cost and quality of said coverage? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | foundation horse - 2016-10-20 12:25 PM Bear - 2016-10-20 11:00 AM jd&ez - 2016-10-20 9:46 AM Hillary kicked his racist, bigoted arse once again. I'm sure he is glad he doesn't have to do another debate.
The GOP had the perfect chance to take the White House this election but instead they nominated this totally inept piece of crap.
Well, he is the face of the alt-right which has taken over the GOP. I understand a reasonable republican being appalled by that face but they didn't step up and stop the takeover.
The GOP nominated the one person that can't beat Clinton. And the irony is, even if he had won he is a democrat politically. You want to talk abortions? Trump has always been in favor of abortions. He only says he's not now because he is the GOP nominee.
Once this is over he will go back to his original position.
The Trump supporters have been played. You crack me up, Mr Yellowdog. If anyone with half a brain has been following this process they know why Trump has switched his position to pro life. He's explained it many times, and it's completely plausible. You can question the sincerity of his switch, but are you equally willing to acknowledge Hillary's flip flops? She was opposed to Gay marriage....until she ran for POTUS. She was a vocal supporter of NAFTA.....until she ran for POTUS. She was a vocal advocate of the Iraq invasion......until she ran for POTUS. She was for TPP, calling it "the gold standard"......until she ran for POTUS. She was strongly against illegal immigration.....until she ran for POTUS. There's a good reason why Trump cut through 16 of the best the GOP had to offer like a hot knife through butter. He didn't mince words. He spoke his mind. He called it as he saw it. He said a lot of things many people actually thought, including other candidates, but were afraid to say. He called out the political establishment on both sides for their corruption. He was unapologetic about his main thrust to put America first. Even if he loses, he was a hand grenade we needed. Add to this summary that The Trump Organization is NOT beholden to ANY Special Interest Donors. Remember The Koch Brothers PAC refused to support him. Trump is essentially self funded with supplemental donations in the amounts of less $100 per donation..................................... This in and of itself is HUGE!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | ridejg - 2016-10-19 10:29 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-19 10:00 PM Did'nt watch are not watching if its still on, I just cant stomach her any more, I'm wishing to many bad things her way so thought I better not watch her lying face.. 
LOL, WE just bought a new TV and I didnt want nothing happening to it so I told myself no debates for me, did'nt want a broken TV over that trashy nasty person {Hillary} just in case the few on here didnt'nt know who the trashy nasty person was that I was talking about, LOL, I know she hung the moon with the few of you.. She cant do no wrong, yea RIGHT  |
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Location: OH | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-20 2:22 PM ridejg - 2016-10-19 10:29 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-19 10:00 PM Did'nt watch are not watching if its still on, I just cant stomach her any more, I'm wishing to many bad things her way so thought I better not watch her lying face..
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Location: North Texas | Reester - 2016-10-20 1:28 PM
The massive amounts of new registered voters are NOT coming out for Hillary.
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