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Location: Texas | In my veterinary infancy... we aren't taught any of the bad stuff...but I know the older guys know what illegal stuff is out there and what people do because I've definitely gotten the vibe that barrel racers are known for hopping their horses. I was basically told I would get a rude awakening of what people are going to ask me to do in a few short months that I have no idea about.. I'll try and keep my jaw from hitting the floor LOL. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL 
Ignorance is bliss.
That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent?
Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear.
My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win...
What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high?
Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse?
Is that what you are saying?
Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | casualdust07 - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM
In my veterinary infancy... we aren't taught any of the bad stuff...but I know the older guys know what illegal stuff is out there and what people do because I've definitely gotten the vibe that barrel racers are known for hopping their horses. I was basically told I would get a rude awakening of what people are going to ask me to do in a few short months that I have no idea about.. I'll try and keep my jaw from hitting the floor LOL.
I was hoping you would chime in, doc. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Bear - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL
Ignorance is bliss.
That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent?
Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear.
My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win...
What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high?
Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse?
Is that what you are saying?
Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect?
I agree it's a problem. Not just with this drug but many. But putting all the details out there is not right. No matter what you shed "light" on its not going to change the people with no morals or conscience. But maybe create a new monster that hasn't heard of it yet. |
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Location: Wyoming | I've heard of some very well known ladies using frog juice. I personally have never seen them use it, this is all second hand. One of the horses in question is barely pasture sound now  |
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| I manage racehorse farm. Never heard of it. I honestly thought this was a spam thread based on title.
I think Bear has suspicions....
Even if they do random drug test at some rodeos it was my understanding that they have to test specifically for it??? If the mindset is "we want our barrel horses calm" I bet they aren't looking for it in those tests.
I'm going to pick my vets brain about it next time I go see him.
I cannot imagine giving my horse this! This is insane. I've ALWAYS maintained that it is the integrity of the horse that is ultimately being destroyed by human greed |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | iloveequine40 - 2017-01-16 8:22 PM
I manage racehorse farm. Never heard of it. I honestly thought this was a spam thread based on title.
I think Bear has suspicions....
Even if they do random drug test at some rodeos it was my understanding that they have to test specifically for it??? If the mindset is "we want our barrel horses calm" I bet they aren't looking for it in those tests.
I'm going to pick my vets brain about it next time I go see him.
I cannot imagine giving my horse this! This is insane. I've ALWAYS maintained that it is the integrity of the horse that is ultimately being destroyed by human greed
You are right. There has to be specific testing for it. Supposedly, until 2012 there was no test to detect Frog Juice. |
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Location: Oklahoma | There is a lot of people with there heads in the sand! This has been around and so many other drugs for so long. There is always gonna be cheaters and what is so sad is at the expense of the horse. I worked for a trainer at his house with race horses and what saw was very eye opening because I always heard but never witness and it is a whole other thing to see! I don't know if it was frog juice but it was red in the syringe, he gave to horse within 10 mins horse was running in stall and kicking and bucking and sweating like crazy like he couldn't stand himself! This was like on a Monday or Tuesday the horse was gonna run that weekend. I asked what is the point of this now if not running til weekend his response said that it wont test if give early in the week. but if out of system enough to not test what is the point??? It was heartbreaking to see the horse! There was other stuff too I quit I don't have the stomach for it! I would rather sit at home with a healthy horse than to have to shoot them up! they are athletes and I believe in helping them with meds to help them thru if need be. One time I was at a rodeo and watched a girl give her horse something to hype horse up and after run give him something to calm him down. Horse couldn't stand himself pacing and pawing I didn't even ask what she was giving him truth be known I didn't want to know! It is in all the worlds! I would bet money even in dog races and whatever else is out there. Even if they get caught they will do again but be sneaker unless completely kicked out like I assume Lance Armstrong was. If its not frog juice it will be something else! Or a combination which would be just as bad or worse! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | mreklaw - 2017-01-16 8:16 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL
Ignorance is bliss.
That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent?
Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear.
My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win...
What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high?
Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse?
Is that what you are saying?
Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect?
I agree it's a problem. Not just with this drug but many. But putting all the details out there is not right. No matter what you shed "light" on its not going to change the people with no morals or conscience. But maybe create a new monster that hasn't heard of it yet.
What "details"? You make it sound like I revealed some sophisticated secret. A moron can google Frog Juice or Dermorphin.
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Location: Oklahoma | Thanks Bear for bringing this up! People need to be aware. And know the consequences for their horses if they go this route! I have heard and seen so many times this work for my horse you should try this. I am more aware than I ever was before in my life! (not referring to Frog Juice just in general!) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2017-01-16 9:15 PM mreklaw - 2017-01-16 8:16 PM Bear - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL Ignorance is bliss. That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent? Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear. My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win... What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high? Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win. So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse? Is that what you are saying? Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect? I agree it's a problem. Not just with this drug but many. But putting all the details out there is not right. No matter what you shed "light" on its not going to change the people with no morals or conscience. But maybe create a new monster that hasn't heard of it yet. What "details"? You make it sound like I revealed some sophisticated secret. A moron can google Frog Juice or Dermorphin. I didn't give anyone any evil ideas.
Theres plenty of crazy a$$ people out there that does all these evil things to their horse and what ever else they have, Bear dont have to put any evil ideals out there, they are already there and have been for many many years. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Also the way I look at it is this I was very sheltered as a kid growing up I didn't have a clue bout drugs that kids I went to school was doing. Had no clue they symptoms or anything or what they used like those smoke bombs for smoking. I was in my 20's when I learned everything! I was asst. Manger for apartment complex for low income My first couple I leased in I learned what Russia (cant remember the word) was. The young man lost and lost his life in front of wife and his 1 year old So I got a crash course in the other world. I know that this is getting away from the frog juice bet someone stated that shouldn't bring this to life, well it might help someone if they know the consequences for their horse may deter them from trying if someone says here give this to your horse because it helped mine and we are winning. but then again may not deter them. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Bear - 2017-01-16 9:15 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 8:16 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL
Ignorance is bliss.
That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent?
Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear.
My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win...
What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high?
Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse?
Is that what you are saying?
Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect?
I agree it's a problem. Not just with this drug but many. But putting all the details out there is not right. No matter what you shed "light" on its not going to change the people with no morals or conscience. But maybe create a new monster that hasn't heard of it yet.
What "details"? You make it sound like I revealed some sophisticated secret. A moron can google Frog Juice or Dermorphin.
I didn't give anyone any evil ideas.
Yes they could but only if they had knowledge of it to begin with. If you only enlightened one person that's one too many. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | mreklaw - 2017-01-16 9:26 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 9:15 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 8:16 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL
Ignorance is bliss.
That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent?
Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear.
My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win...
What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high?
Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse?
Is that what you are saying?
Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect?
I agree it's a problem. Not just with this drug but many. But putting all the details out there is not right. No matter what you shed "light" on its not going to change the people with no morals or conscience. But maybe create a new monster that hasn't heard of it yet.
What "details"? You make it sound like I revealed some sophisticated secret. A moron can google Frog Juice or Dermorphin.
I didn't give anyone any evil ideas.
Yes they could but only if they had knowledge of it to begin with. If you only enlightened one person that's one too many.
I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you've been saying.
If someone is so dumb as to conclude that using Frog Juice sounds like a swell idea after reading this thread, at least we can take some consolation in knowing that their chances of contributing to the gene pool is marginal. |
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| Thank you for posting this! I'm always up for learning, but I also think doping is taboo to talk about in the barrel racing world and needs to be brought up more, even if it makes people uncomfortable or mad. I know at the AQHA plesaure shows, they test as the lady I board with has been tested a few times. The problem she said she had was that they had a quota of shows to test for and sometimes they would show up at small shows (she suspects they don't want to get the big wigs in trouble) but then again, I suppose if you were the type of person to drug a horse you might get away with it at a smaller show easier...potentially?
I have a horse that has to run on Ventipulmin which I believe is illegal in some associations, and I would need to have my vet write a note saying she has a legitimate medical condition. That's what sucks about the illegal drugs people abuse, because others are using them for an actual condition. Also HIGHLY agree futurity horses should be tested. Anyone know why they aren't?? |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Bear - 2017-01-16 9:55 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 9:26 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 9:15 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 8:16 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 8:11 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 7:43 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 2:51 PM
Bear - 2017-01-16 2:20 PM
IRunOnFaith - 2017-01-16 1:52 PM
mreklaw - 2017-01-16 1:24 PM Why post this and give idiots ideas?
And hey, maybe the ones who do purchase will get caught and we can weed out our competition. LOL
Ignorance is bliss.
That's why I posted in the first place....to get an idea of how many people even know what it is, and whether they think the stuff is being used in barrel racing. It's talked about. Rumors are not new. If the stuff is readily available, and it has these desirable effects, and no effort is being made to test for them or ferret the cheaters out, are we supposed to just convince ourselves that people who barrel race are all honest and good and decent?
Practically everyone knew about the Mafia by the time the FBI was forced into recognizing they actually existed, some 60 years after their inception in the U.S. Even the FBI didn't want to deal with the truth.....partly out of fear.
My point exactly. Thank you for the knowledge of knowing it exists. Now to Google I go to read up on this stuff. Scary world we live in. It seems people will do anything to win...
What are the lasting effects on the horses that are exposed to this drug Bear? Are there any side effects when a horse is coming back down from the so called high?
Ignorance is bliss for the horses that belong to the fools that are going to use this or whatever new drug that is being used to cheat. And just how are you people going to determine who's horse is in a state of "euphoria "? What symptoms are you now going to be able to pick up on since reading this? Yes there are plenty of people already doing this to their horses and now there will be more thanks to you posting it. I can just see their greedy little fingers typing in their search engine to find more info. There are a lot of naive people on here if you don't think some people are doing everything possible to win.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that by shedding some light on cheating by doping, I am making the problem worse?
Is that what you are saying?
Do you agree that it is a problem? If so, then do you think the solution is benign neglect?
I agree it's a problem. Not just with this drug but many. But putting all the details out there is not right. No matter what you shed "light" on its not going to change the people with no morals or conscience. But maybe create a new monster that hasn't heard of it yet.
What "details"? You make it sound like I revealed some sophisticated secret. A moron can google Frog Juice or Dermorphin.
I didn't give anyone any evil ideas.
Yes they could but only if they had knowledge of it to begin with. If you only enlightened one person that's one too many.
I'm not going to insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you've been saying.
If someone is so dumb as to conclude that using Frog Juice sounds like a swell idea after reading this thread, at least we can take some consolation in knowing that their chances of contributing to the gene pool is marginal.
Well I won't insult your intelligence because you obviously don't get my point. That kind of person that would try this cares nothing about their animal. They just want to win at any cost.Hey call me sometime and I will give you a list of other drugs I have heard of people using. The list is long unfortunately. You can't change it by talking about it either. That kind of person will always exist so obviously they are contributing to the gene pool. |
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| Bear - 2017-01-16 9:10 PM
iloveequine40 - 2017-01-16 8:22 PM
I manage racehorse farm. Never heard of it. I honestly thought this was a spam thread based on title.
I think Bear has suspicions....
Even if they do random drug test at some rodeos it was my understanding that they have to test specifically for it??? If the mindset is "we want our barrel horses calm" I bet they aren't looking for it in those tests.
I'm going to pick my vets brain about it next time I go see him.
I cannot imagine giving my horse this! This is insane. I've ALWAYS maintained that it is the integrity of the horse that is ultimately being destroyed by human greed
You are right. There has to be specific testing for it. Supposedly, until 2012 there was no test to detect Frog Juice.
That's what I read too. So random drug testing at rodeos or futurity would most likely not be testing for frog juice bc it's "effect" goes against the idea of what most barrel racers desire in their horse.
We had a horse run in DFC futurity trials at Lonestar. He won his trial and as soon as winner circle pic was taken he was escorted immediately and with security to the testing barn. I couldn't even go to the backstretch to see him until he was finished. When I went to pick him up during the Texas Classic Futurity weekend my truck/trailer had to be clear of everything. They searched going in and out. Even made me take off my boots. The race horse industry is leaps and bounds ahead of other industry in regulating. With all these big races futurity, American the spotlight is being turned on and it won't be long before treatment/drug use comes front and center.
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| years ago we vet checked a horse that ALWAYS drew a 1D check-500 + entries-same trip every time, watched him often, never took a lame step. At the vet he was so cripple in his hind end he could barley lope a circle. My vet took me aside and said he was going to shoot x-rays at no cost because he was curious, his hocks were toast, ligaments calcified. I have always wondered what they were giving the poor horse to keep him going. He died of a heart attack about a year after we passed on buying him, no idea if it was related to him being drugged.
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Location: OH | iloveequine40 - 2017-01-17 5:48 AM Bear - 2017-01-16 9:10 PM iloveequine40 - 2017-01-16 8:22 PM I manage racehorse farm. Never heard of it. I honestly thought this was a spam thread based on title. I think Bear has suspicions.... Even if they do random drug test at some rodeos it was my understanding that they have to test specifically for it??? If the mindset is "we want our barrel horses calm" I bet they aren't looking for it in those tests. I'm going to pick my vets brain about it next time I go see him. I cannot imagine giving my horse this! This is insane. I've ALWAYS maintained that it is the integrity of the horse that is ultimately being destroyed by human greed You are right. There has to be specific testing for it. Supposedly, until 2012 there was no test to detect Frog Juice. That's what I read too. So random drug testing at rodeos or futurity would most likely not be testing for frog juice bc it's "effect" goes against the idea of what most barrel racers desire in their horse. We had a horse run in DFC futurity trials at Lonestar. He won his trial and as soon as winner circle pic was taken he was escorted immediately and with security to the testing barn. I couldn't even go to the backstretch to see him until he was finished. When I went to pick him up during the Texas Classic Futurity weekend my truck/trailer had to be clear of everything. They searched going in and out. Even made me take off my boots. The race horse industry is leaps and bounds ahead of other industry in regulating. With all these big races futurity, American the spotlight is being turned on and it won't be long before treatment/drug use comes front and center.
The thing that people always miss when discussing drugs in horse racing is that it has nothing to do with the welfare of the horse or a anything like that---they want to keep an even playing field for the betting public. There is no gambling(legally) on barrel racing so I do not see drug testing happening in a large scale.
Yes, at most tracks the winner is tested and at out TB track one random is pulled from each race.
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