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The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather...
I agree with this 100% but I’m asking please don’t give these ppl that crave attention any more of it!!!
TMS and this family are cut from the same cloth but can we please stop giving them the attention they crave so
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This is my take on this bunch. They use horses as a piece of equipment and when one can't perform get rid of it. This is what the daughter has been taught. I think she is an entitled brat that does not appreciate anything. (Stepdaughter whatever) |
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| streakysox - 2018-07-26 11:09 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-07-26 10:54 PM SKM - 2018-07-26 8:38 PM The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather... I agree with this 100% but I’m asking please don’t give these ppl that crave attention any more of it!!! TMS and this family are cut from the same cloth but can we please stop giving them the attention they crave so Much! This is my take on this bunch. They use horses as a piece of equipment and when one can't perform get rid of it. This is what the daughter has been taught. I think she is an entitled brat that does not appreciate anything. (Stepdaughter whatever )
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| She obviously hasn't learned much. Social media accounts are back up and she's already sharing screenshots of people's death threat messages (which is TERRIBLE, no one deserves that) for drama. At this point, her parents need to step in and take her phone, computer, anything. Make her live without social media for a while...she needs to grow up. Very immature...never been taught. Hopefully they will start soon, but probably not likely. |
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Location: Georgia | abrad12 - 2018-07-27 9:21 AM
She obviously hasn't learned much. Social media accounts are back up and she's already sharing screenshots of people's death threat messages (which is TERRIBLE, no one deserves that) for drama. At this point, her parents need to step in and take her phone, computer, anything. Make her live without social media for a while...she needs to grow up. Very immature...never been taught. Hopefully they will start soon, but probably not likely.
Ive held my tongue for a while... but I was very disappointing to see her back on social media so soon. And even more disappointed to see her mother commenting and defending her daughters actions. I guess the apple does not fall far.
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Location: N Texas | Oh geeze, she's got some great role models in her life  As long as her mom sees nothing wrong with what she's doing, she's not going to change.
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Location: The edge of no where | mandita8907 - 2018-07-27 8:42 AM abrad12 - 2018-07-27 9:21 AM She obviously hasn't learned much. Social media accounts are back up and she's already sharing screenshots of people's death threat messages (which is TERRIBLE, no one deserves that) for drama. At this point, her parents need to step in and take her phone, computer, anything. Make her live without social media for a while...she needs to grow up. Very immature...never been taught. Hopefully they will start soon, but probably not likely. Ive held my tongue for a while... but I was very disappointing to see her back on social media so soon. And even more disappointed to see her mother commenting and defending her daughters actions. I guess the apple does not fall far.
First of all - The personal threats are unacceptable.
This stuff has been going on FOREVER - her parents are fully aware of her behavior and have laughed at it and enabled it. I doubt this little firestorm makes any difference at all. It will blow over. The only thing that might get their attention is a dip in saddle sales - the rest of it will not matter. They're not going to discipline her or make any changes in the way they handle horses.
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Location: N Texas | I didn't know this girl from Adam until yesterday. I learned that we actually have a lot of mutual friends and even run at some of the same barrel races. What I've gathered is that she thinks she's a MUCH better barrel racer than she really is. And that's not necessarily her fault. That comes from her parents having enough money to buy her a nicer horse than she's capable of riding because winning is more important than doing it right. She's gotten lucky and ridden just well enough to win a little money and boost her ego. She's surrounded by people who stroke that ego as opposed to guiding her.
I 100% agree that she does not deserve the bullying and death threats, that's just absolutely ridiculous. However, I genuinely hope she takes this as a learning experience that there's still A LOT she needs to learn and improve on. Do I think that will happen? Not with her current support system. When everyone around her is just making excuses for her actions, then she'll never see anything wrong with it. |
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Location: Arizona | SKM - 2018-07-26 7:38 PM
The day that TMS defends my actions is the day I take a long, hard look at what’s looking back at me in the mirror. If she gives you her support, you are obviously doing something VERY wrong. Birds of a feather...
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:49 PM IRunOnFaith - 2018-07-26 4:21 PM RockinGR - 2018-07-26 4:00 PM I formed a less than favorable opinion of that particular family (Dad the saddlemaker) 10 years ago after we ordered a custom saddle from him at the NFR--as in stood and talked to him, he made the ticket out with us standing there and reviewing it. Saddle didn't show up when promised, I started calling and got tons of excuses til I finally had to threaten. Then we were sent the wrong saddle and he told me that's what we ordered. I had to threaten again several times and we finally got the saddle. BUT, while I was on the phone WITH HIM, not an employee, he let it slip that Teskeys made our saddle (I think he did some of the custom details). So I paid $2500 for a rope saddle with his stamp on it that he didn't make. And it took 3 times as long as was supposed to and several threats to get it! Never again. None of Jeff Smith's Saddles are handmade by him....
They're all shop made like Corriente and Teskey's. If he told you otherwise... Well, that's a different story entirely as well.
Handmade and shopmade are two different things: Yes, his saddles are made by hands here in Texas in a shop of saddle makers. However, a different person tools each piece and pieces the saddle together in a shop. So the saddle is made by many different people. That doesn't make it a bad build or a bad saddle but it also doesn't make it handmade. Handmade is one person tooling the saddle start to finish, building the saddle, stitching the saddle, etc and then putting their name on the keeper. That's a handmade saddle. That takes people months to complete if they work on it day in and day out.
He used to use the same shop as Teskey's used for their higher quality saddle line. Sketchy things happened on Jeff Smith's part and the shop started only making saddles for him. (Rumor has it he bought the shop and became exclusive to himself). Teskey's uses a much better shop now for their higher end saddle line in my opinion of quality, than Jeff Smith's shop. But Jeff Smith charges more than double the price.
Why? Because he can.
So Essentially yes, your Jeff Smith Saddle is a Teskey Saddle, you just paid for his keeper. Nice saddles, but sketchy in his wording and pricing.  Never did I imply that it was to be a handmade saddle (custom, yes )...we knew it would be shop made...but I did expect it to be made in HIS shop. If we'd have wanted a Teskey's saddle, we'd have gotten one from them at half the price. Lucky for us, it's a nice saddle and we still have it. But that does not change the fact that we were intentionally misled and I only found out because of a slip of the tongue. It took over 3 months to get our shop built saddle, BTW, after being told it would take 4-6 weeks. ETA: I am also not naïve enough to think you could purchase a handmade saddle for $2500...
Completely understand. I wasn't implying that you didn't know the difference. I only stated the difference because some people may read the comment highlighted and think his saddles are handmade. There are a lot of people who read our forums when things blow up.
I appologize for coming off as snarky or rude.
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| Gunner11 - 2018-07-27 9:08 AM
Oh geeze, she's got some great role models in her life As long as her mom sees nothing wrong with what she's doing, she's not going to change.
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| Well this sure doesn't surprise me in the least. Chali has been a spoiled brat since she was knee high. I frequented their arena and before she moved up to big horses she would abuse a poor little paint pony at every jackpot. I yelled at her several times to stop abusing that pony and give him a **** rest as she would run him everywhere in the HOT Texas heat. Her parents have never given her the time of day and it shows. Her mom, Sherry, has always been one that people around these parts steer clear of, it's just a known fact. I just surprised her abusive ways have not shown up any sooner. And yes Jeff is her bio dad. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
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della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR. People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
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della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty ). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
It means it just really sucks when people know but be it whatever reason, it continues to happen again and again.
Its even extra ****ty when people are reported again and again .... And here we are, nothing is ever truly done.
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| della - 2018-07-27 7:06 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2018-07-27 5:35 PM della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out. What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her. She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty ). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it. ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that. It means it just really sucks when people know but be it whatever reason, it continues to happen again and again. Its even extra ****ty when people are reported again and again .... And here we are, nothing is ever truly done. Nobody but the animals suffer.
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Location: OH. IO | della - 2018-07-27 8:06 PM
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della - 2018-07-27 4:29 PM
Its amazing to me you all knew the was soooooo abusive to horses and this was such a longgggg time coming and never did anything about it until now, when there's a mob and its safe to speak out.
What is this even suppose to mean? People have been speaking out against this girl for years. She made all of her accounts private a long time ago because literally all that ever happened is people called her out on her crap, and now she only keeps around the people that stroke her ego and deletes anyone who is negative towards her.
She has been turned in for beating the crap out of her horses at races. She was turned in for leaving her horses standing on concrete at BBR (and they were disgustingly dirty ). People have done PLENTY about it but we don’t live at her house. We can’t video what she does and I think everyone knows that you can’t just turn someone in for abuse. If the horses have food and water and aren’t covered in blood the cops aren’t going to do anything about it.
ETA a large group of people agreeing that dragging a baby horse by the neck, videoing it, and posting it on social media, is wrong, doesn’t make it a mob mentality. It means that thankfully a vast majority of people are not sociopaths and have empathy towards another living creature that did nothing to deserve being treated like that.
It means it just really sucks when people know but be it whatever reason, it continues to happen again and again.
Its even extra ****ty when people are reported again and again .... And here we are, nothing is ever truly done.
Nobody but the animals suffer.
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