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s_tellar
Reg. May 2019
Posted 2019-06-11 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: Running a horse under a different name


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I just saw where on TS's FB she referes to herself as a "life coach". I am dying. 



I shake my head every time I see that. I’m pretty sure I would not want to be coached about my life by a scam artist. I feel like karma might really bite you if you make what she says your life goals.



wow this is surprising. since she has no control over her emotions when she snapps at people on fb. 



I just saw an incident on one of her sale horses actually... very snarky reply and then backed up by her significant other, I assume. 


oh yeah she jumped down my throat on fb when someone posted that video the other day and i said she was no better haha i didnt even respond to her just laughed at her reply, she is a mental case who doesnt know how to act

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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2019-06-11 1:59 PM
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This is all over my FB today, I watched it out of curiosity, guess zebras really don’t change their stripes.  I quit following her when she went from barrel racing to body building and stuff - all marketing to make money, and that’s cool just not my thing.

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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2019-06-11 3:03 PM
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AmericanJelly1 - 2019-06-11 11:50 AM


I know the bigger barrel races we have here in the north require you to pay a fee and also have proof from vet to change a horse. Most of the time you are not given money back. I know its a slightly different situation but there are things in place to try and prevent what happened. Some people just don't accept the rules for what they are. This isn't a rodeo and honestly even if it was I'd want my horses name right on the sheet if they ask for it..... 


I don't think she had to change horses, she ran the wrong mare on purpose.  

This is nothing new, years ago ANHA had novice classes and had to go to court when someone ran an open horse in a novice class and won.  I am pretty sure it cost the producers a pretty penny to do the right thing in that case, one of the reasons there are no more novice classes.

It also happened in TB racing right here at Evangeline Downs, pretty elaborate scheme that had to involve at least a couple of grooms being in on the deal.  They were eventually caught, fined etc. and the rules have been changed to avoid that happening again.  

It's crazy how crooked minded people can come up with new ways to cheat.  If they would put that effort in to winning the right way they could do just fine, but I guess they get something out of screwing people over.

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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-06-11 3:05 PM
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Apparently I don’t follow the right people/things on FB because I have seen nothing about it on there. Where should I look? Lol

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3TurnsonSpud
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2019-06-11 3:15 PM
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horsegirl - 2019-06-11 2:05 PM


Apparently I don’t follow the right people/things on FB because I have seen nothing about it on there. Where should I look? Lol


Apparently, I don’t either because I hvnt seen anything.

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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2019-06-11 3:16 PM
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After watching the vlog, it seems like she was worried the champ may not clock due to being off for a while. I'm betting she entered under the name of her sis so that if the run went bad it wouldn't stir up rumors that bbflo wasn't clocking/was "done" or something of the sort.  Not that it validates it. Just what I am leaning toward. 



Edited by scwebster 2019-06-11 3:22 PM
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-06-11 3:57 PM
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horsegirl - 2019-06-11 3:05 PM


Apparently I don’t follow the right people/things on FB because I have seen nothing about it on there. Where should I look? Lol


I dont follow any of these people being discussed, I am on a sales page where I happened to see the video, before that,  i didnt even really know who TS was or that she was an admin on it lol! Now that I do know who that is, it shouldn't surprise me she decided to share that video on a page that is dedicated to the sales of  barrel horses, prospects and broodies... perfect opportunity to bash the topic of this thread because of a supposed bad deal that happened between the 2.  Why not!

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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2019-06-11 3:58 PM
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I guess the point is, when you’re on Top you better make darn sure to dot your i’s and cross your t’s, whether it’s intentional or not you always have “fans” watching you so why even risk it....I just don’t understand 

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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2019-06-11 4:21 PM
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RnRJack - 2019-06-11 3:58 PM


I guess the point is, when you’re on Top you better make darn sure to dot your i’s and cross your t’s, whether it’s intentional or not you always have “fans” watching you so why even risk it....I just don’t understand 


This may be true but Sheri Cervi would never run the wrong "Stingray" in a jackpot just like Lisa Lockhart would never run the wrong "Louie" or Brittany would never run the wrong "Duke", you get the picture......

Some have morals and some don't, it's just that simple.

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-06-11 5:14 PM
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I guess the point is, when you’re on Top you better make darn sure to dot your i’s and cross your t’s, whether it’s intentional or not you always have “fans” watching you so why even risk it....I just don’t understand 



This may be true but Sheri Cervi would never run the wrong "Stingray" in a jackpot just like Lisa Lockhart would never run the wrong "Louie" or Brittany would never run the wrong "Duke", you get the picture......


Some have morals and some don't, it's just that simple.


Right on! 

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RnRJack
Reg. Mar 2010
Posted 2019-06-11 5:40 PM
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I guess the point is, when you’re on Top you better make darn sure to dot your i’s and cross your t’s, whether it’s intentional or not you always have “fans” watching you so why even risk it....I just don’t understand 



This may be true but Sheri Cervi would never run the wrong "Stingray" in a jackpot just like Lisa Lockhart would never run the wrong "Louie" or Brittany would never run the wrong "Duke", you get the picture......


Some have morals and some don't, it's just that simple.


I concur 100%, I’m just saying, you would think being someone who has all these followers and people watching you would make sure you are always doing the right thing!  

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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2019-06-11 6:06 PM
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Playing devils advocate here as I don’t know or follow any of the ladies involved in this...

What are the chances a staff members of hers  pre-entered the horses bc at the time of pre-entries, she was planning on running  Babyflo?  

What if she decided at the last minute to run Neffy instead and truly forgot to correct the mistake? I’m assuming entries were online. 

I have heard of shady stories concerning her and I’m not here to negate that. However, if you exclude the past shady business, would everyone be so quick to assume she was intentionally trying to misrepresent her horses? Could it be an honest mistake from someone who has had previous history of being dishonest? 

Lastly, if someone enters a horse in the open as  “Horse 1”, “Horse2” and so on, can those earnings be entered into equistat? I wasn’t sure if an owner can enter the winnings or it had to be a producer/organization. 

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Tilt The Kilt
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2019-06-11 6:44 PM
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Dreamingofcans - 2019-06-11 6:06 PM


Playing devils advocate here as I don’t know or follow any of the ladies involved in this...


What are the chances a staff members of hers  pre-entered the horses bc at the time of pre-entries, she was planning on running  Babyflo?  


What if she decided at the last minute to run Neffy instead and truly forgot to correct the mistake? I’m assuming entries were online. 


I have heard of shady stories concerning her and I’m not here to negate that. However, if you exclude the past shady business, would everyone be so quick to assume she was intentionally trying to misrepresent her horses? Could it be an honest mistake from someone who has had previous history of being dishonest? 


Lastly, if someone enters a horse in the open as  “Horse 1”, “Horse2” and so on, can those earnings be entered into equistat? I wasn’t sure if an owner can enter the winnings or it had to be a producer/organization. 


The video explains more.  She didn't forget and it didn't happen just once. 

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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-06-11 7:34 PM
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How do I find this video? I’m so curious. 

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Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-06-11 7:49 PM
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RnRJack - 2019-06-11 3:58 PM


I guess the point is, when you’re on Top you better make darn sure to dot your i’s and cross your t’s, whether it’s intentional or not you always have “fans” watching you so why even risk it....I just don’t understand 



This may be true but Sheri Cervi would never run the wrong "Stingray" in a jackpot just like Lisa Lockhart would never run the wrong "Louie" or Brittany would never run the wrong "Duke", you get the picture......


Some have morals and some don't, it's just that simple.


I just was thinking "hmmm, I really can't see Lisa doing anything like this."   Not to say I believe she's perfect, but I just see CLASS in certain ladies.  Mrs Cervi included. . . 

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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-06-11 7:50 PM
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Right is right, wrong is wrong.  I feel like it should not matter who you are, what you have won or not won, what D you run in... if you run horse A under horse B's name- you fix it. And if you did it on purpose, its just wrong.   

 

And as a side bar I don't like horse 1 or horse 2 either.. I feel like if you pre enter and want to make sure a certain horse gets a certain spot, change the name when you get there.  I don't care if you feel like your horse needs a certain spot on the ground, just change the dang name once you decide.   

 

We just finished the whole horse purchasing process and it was so frustrating to find results.  Tracking barrel horse earnings as it is is very challenging... we have a ton of individual organizations, that have to get x amount of reg names to submit to equistat, if they even want to... no one really looks at AQHA stats on barrel horses, so that whole database is what it is.. So basically, we have to rely on posted results from producers to see who's winning. And if those results are so easily faked, how can you trust anything?

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-06-11 8:44 PM
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Playing devils advocate here as I don’t know or follow any of the ladies involved in this...


What are the chances a staff members of hers  pre-entered the horses bc at the time of pre-entries, she was planning on running  Babyflo?  


What if she decided at the last minute to run Neffy instead and truly forgot to correct the mistake? I’m assuming entries were online. 


I have heard of shady stories concerning her and I’m not here to negate that. However, if you exclude the past shady business, would everyone be so quick to assume she was intentionally trying to misrepresent her horses? Could it be an honest mistake from someone who has had previous history of being dishonest? 


Lastly, if someone enters a horse in the open as  “Horse 1”, “Horse2” and so on, can those earnings be entered into equistat? I wasn’t sure if an owner can enter the winnings or it had to be a producer/organization. 



The video explains more.  She didn't forget and it didn't happen just once. 


Sure mistakes happen, but once it has been brought to your attention,  you acknowledge it, fix it and cover your a$$ ... not call everyone haters and snakes for calling you on your bs. 

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Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2019-06-11 9:59 PM
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So I was wondering if she had mentioned it on her youtube page and she recently posted this... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9rObGokC0I

The times and placings she mentioned for the horses match the results from one of the races in question and she mentions "rumors" mixing up the two horses but then posts that she ran babyflo. So it kind of seems like she just openly admitted that she did it... right?

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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2019-06-11 10:30 PM
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Apparently I don’t follow the right people/things on FB because I have seen nothing about it on there. Where should I look? Lol



Apparently, I don’t either because I hvnt seen anything.


The FB video is on the personal page of Kelsey Howard DC CAc. It's a public post, so you don't have to be a FB friend to watch it.

The FB sales group that is discussing the video (and adding many horror stories of their own) is called Barrel Horses, Prospects, & Broodmares.

I am just grateful that a discussion about this person has stayed posted long enough for me to get the scoop, for once! Usually it disappears before I can read anything, lol.

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Reg. Aug 2010
Posted 2019-06-12 8:37 AM
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Fake hair, fake eyelashes, fake lips, fake boobs,  get the picture???? 

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