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       Location: Oklahoma | I feel that the mandate is BS. Thankfully I work for a company that will not do that to us. I believe that it is my choice based upon my research as to whether or not I choose to get the vaccine. I'm sick and tired of the unvaccinated people basically being condemned for not getting a vaccine. There is NO PROOF that the vaccine works. Too many contradictions in the stories of the so called experts. First it was wear a mask, it'll protect you. Then, get the vaccine and you won't have to wear a mask. Then it was the vaccine doesn't stop covid and now you should wear a mask again. I also will not take a vaccine that has been rushed through the trials and is not FDA approved. There is no knowledge of long term effects yet. I won't risk giving my children a vaccine either that could harm them later in life. I've had covid. I've lost people I was close with to it. But, every person had an underlying health issue too. Will I poke anyone who felt the need or want the vaccine? Absolutely not. If you want to do that for you and your family, that is your decision. But, I expect you to respect my decision for the same reasons. |
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  Location: Illinois | TwistedK - 2021-08-25 1:41 PM
I feel that the mandate is BS. Thankfully I work for a company that will not do that to us. I believe that it is my choice based upon my research as to whether or not I choose to get the vaccine. I'm sick and tired of the unvaccinated people basically being condemned for not getting a vaccine. There is NO PROOF that the vaccine works. Too many contradictions in the stories of the so called experts. First it was wear a mask, it'll protect you. Then, get the vaccine and you won't have to wear a mask. Then it was the vaccine doesn't stop covid and now you should wear a mask again.
I also will not take a vaccine that has been rushed through the trials and is not FDA approved. There is no knowledge of long term effects yet. I won't risk giving my children a vaccine either that could harm them later in life.
I've had covid. I've lost people I was close with to it. But, every person had an underlying health issue too. Will I poke anyone who felt the need or want the vaccine? Absolutely not. If you want to do that for you and your family, that is your decision. But, I expect you to respect my decision for the same reasons.
Pfizer is FDA approved now, but if you research FDA approvals, around half of approvals each year get revoked. So being FDA approved holds no weight as far as safety. Based on Modernas track record I wouldnt go near anything coming from them anyway |
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       Location: Oklahoma | It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children |
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  Location: Illinois | TwistedK - 2021-08-25 2:58 PM
It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children
Well shoot, I thought it was. Yahoo emailed me about it lol. I try not to keep up with covid or its vaccines |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 3:09 PM
TwistedK - 2021-08-25 2:58 PM
It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children
Well shoot, I thought it was. Yahoo emailed me about it lol. I try not to keep up with covid or its vaccines
Pfizer's two-dose Covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation. The vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation. Its two jabs, three weeks apart, are now fully approved for those aged 16 and older. |
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  Location: Illinois | NJJ - 2021-08-25 3:48 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 3:09 PM
TwistedK - 2021-08-25 2:58 PM
It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children
Well shoot, I thought it was. Yahoo emailed me about it lol. I try not to keep up with covid or its vaccines
Pfizer's two-dose Covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation. The vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation. Its two jabs, three weeks apart, are now fully approved for those aged 16 and older.
The EAU has been extended, but there is wording in the documentation that suggests the approval is only good for as long as the EAU and then will need reevaluated. But again, it suggests it to the general reader. Either way, my decline of the vaccine has nothing to do with the vaccine at all |
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| People are stating the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved now, like that's supposed to make it more appealing. Good for them and good for the people who were holding out for the approval and now feel safer taking it. |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 4:12 PM
NJJ - 2021-08-25 3:48 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 3:09 PM
TwistedK - 2021-08-25 2:58 PM
It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children
Well shoot, I thought it was. Yahoo emailed me about it lol. I try not to keep up with covid or its vaccines
Pfizer's two-dose Covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation. The vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation. Its two jabs, three weeks apart, are now fully approved for those aged 16 and older.
The EAU has been extended, but there is wording in the documentation that suggests the approval is only good for as long as the EAU and then will need reevaluated. But again, it suggests it to the general reader. Either way, my decline of the vaccine has nothing to do with the vaccine at all
Where did you get that information? I would like to read that "documentation". |
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    Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | Has anyone heard from Bear, lately? Got the shot back in Jan. Been wondering how it's going - what knowledge has been gained, since. I know he was very excited about the technology in the shot. I have heard disturbing information from doctors (first hand) about what they are allowed to say to patients - pressure patients to get the shot or the doc will lose hospital privileges. I know Bear is a patriot and about freedom....but this is a push for socialized medicine. I know very few that have got the jab - 2 are in the hospital right now - positive. Another just came back form work after 2 weeks off - positive - and sick. Another finally got out of the hospital - health complications, including blood clots - that makes a total of 2 I know w/ blood clots. The "approval" on the fda site is lengthy and confusing, but appears to extend EUA with orders and timelines for further testing and allowing the P*izer and newly named Comirn*ty to be used interchangeably and claiming that there isn't a significant different between the two ---- but Comin*rty IS the one that is being licensed? even though they dont' have enough stock in it, so you know all they are going to provide is the Pf*zer which is the one they are NOT approving?----- how deceiving that some of the wording is REDACTED!!!! -- it allows the press to say whatever they want even though it is STILL not approved, but extending EUA which protects them from lawsuits from complications/death caused by jab and it can't be forced upon us. I know people that are only driven by MSM headlines - including employers - so I am in deep prayer for all of those unlawfully and unwillingly placed in a position to have to choose to get the jab or lose their job :(
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  Location: /ARKANSAS | ninty nine per cent of hospital patients are NOT vaccinated. My horses are vaccinated once a year for 5 different diseases. It has been 7 months since my last vacc for covid and I am due for a booster. I am afraid of getting sick, but I need to know I am protected. |
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| fastwrapn3 - 2021-09-01 3:03 AM
ninty nine per cent of hospital patients are NOT vaccinated. My horses are vaccinated once a year for 5 different diseases. It has been 7 months since my last vacc for covid and I am due for a booster. I am afraid of getting sick, but I need to know I am protected.
How many of that 99% have other problems or underlying issues that may have been exasperated by Covid? This makes it sound like an average healthy person is in the hospital solely because they caught covid and are unvax'd. I have serious doubts. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | The best thing to do is let folks make their own choices whether it be vaccines or masks. Bear hasn't been on the board for weeks. Many people are more embedded in FB. Censoring conservatives is not my idea of a good outlet but to each his own. |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | NJJ - 2021-08-25 10:29 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 4:12 PM
NJJ - 2021-08-25 3:48 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 3:09 PM
TwistedK - 2021-08-25 2:58 PM
It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children
Well shoot, I thought it was. Yahoo emailed me about it lol. I try not to keep up with covid or its vaccines
Pfizer's two-dose Covid-19 vaccine has received full approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) - the first jab to be licensed in the nation. The vaccine had initially been given emergency use authorisation. Its two jabs, three weeks apart, are now fully approved for those aged 16 and older.
The EAU has been extended, but there is wording in the documentation that suggests the approval is only good for as long as the EAU and then will need reevaluated. But again, it suggests it to the general reader. Either way, my decline of the vaccine has nothing to do with the vaccine at all
Where did you get that information? I would like to read that "documentation".
This is supposed to be real. Also, if you call this number, they will tell you more - 
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    Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | Frodo - 2021-09-01 7:06 AM
The best thing to do is let folks make their own choices whether it be vaccines or masks.
Bear hasn't been on the board for weeks. Many people are more embedded in FB. Censoring conservatives is not my idea of a good outlet but to each his own.
I KNOW it has been a long time since Bear posted, which is why I asked - I searched his posts, because I hadn't seen him. We definitely should be allowed to make our own decisions BUT the key factor in this is the information should not be censored like it is - in that regard, I am concerned for myself, my friends, family, and even strangers. And yes, FB - totally bogus "fa*t-chickers" on there - they aren't concerned about your health at ALL. I kind of "check-in" there and sometimes share info knowing I might end up in FB jail if I do...haven't yet though. :) |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | txbredbr - 2021-09-03 11:26 AM
Frodo - 2021-09-01 7:06 AM
The best thing to do is let folks make their own choices whether it be vaccines or masks.
Bear hasn't been on the board for weeks. Many people are more embedded in FB. Censoring conservatives is not my idea of a good outlet but to each his own.
I KNOW it has been a long time since Bear posted, which is why I asked - I searched his posts, because I hadn't seen him.
We definitely should be allowed to make our own decisions BUT the key factor in this is the information should not be censored like it is - in that regard, I am concerned for myself, my friends, family, and even strangers. And yes, FB - totally bogus "fa*t-chickers" on there - they aren't concerned about your health at ALL. I kind of "check-in" there and sometimes share info knowing I might end up in FB jail if I do...haven't yet though. :)
My sister and niece, both retired and kind-hearted people, have both been in "jail" because they were Trump supporters. They stuck with FB. I deleted FB. |
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| The amount of closet scientists and infectious disease experts, biologists, pathologists just about every "gist" has surfaced on Facebook to "show what you know" or aka ... copy n paste what you read somewhere... is uncanny! I never knew I KNEW so many .  Let's all just shift our focus and say a prayer for those who are dealing with this terrible virus, those who have lost loved ones, I'm so sorry... my heart and my prayers are with you... those who are sick, I pray for healing, those who are uncertain and scared, I pray for your peace of mind and pray you can feel certain in whatever decision you make, it will serve you the best. I pray for our doctors and nurses dealing with this daily.. I pray for their health and their endurance. I pray that God will heal our land and restore our health.  |
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I just read the headlines
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| JLazyT_perf_horses - 2021-08-25 3:09 PM
TwistedK - 2021-08-25 2:58 PM
It's not FDA approved. It's been granted longer "emergency" status as of 8/21. There still is not enough testing behind it for me to feel comfortable injecting myself or my children
Well shoot, I thought it was. Yahoo emailed me about it lol. I try not to keep up with covid or its vaccines
It's a different vaccine that is FDA approved, but it doesn't come on the market for a several months. At least that is what I was told. I think it's Corminaty? |
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  Location: /ARKANSAS | I am an Advanced Practice Nurse for forty years, in bloody ers and floor and clinics, nothing has scared me as bad as this Covid virus, we lost our vet 2 days ago, will bury him the day after tomorrow, I wanted to scream at him why did he not get the vaccine, now if something happens to my horses I will have to travel out of town. He was kind and funny and dependable. I believe he was taking ivermec expecting to get better. And now I am so depressed with these joe f222king Blow down the street has some story about some friends relative that got better, I got news ivermec did not help anyone and in the future it will not help anyone. Dumbasses need to get vaccinated, you do not want to die on a ventilator in a covid unit, they will throw your body in one of the cooling trucks waiting in the back of the hospital. This in the black and white of the matter. 98 percent of covid patients are UNVACCINATED, 98 percent are UNVACCINATED, 19,000 kids hospitalized in the US today, you are gonna kill all of us, because you are afraid and making the people around you afraid... I go for my booster next month. |
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  Location: /ARKANSAS | You could not get in the first grade of school without your vaccinations, think about it, if you want choice go somewhere you won't kill the person who gets too close without a mask. Killing people is not a choice, it is negligence. |
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| doubl whjammy covide and a uti i went to tally goty that 4 shot thing feeling better just tired fever 100 oxgen 97 no appitie milk and water weak last nitgt my transer was terribe czll my brother an pam to help as i just could not do son what to come dpwn said no i f i get south anne will call the congestion sared me as hard to cough being a quad but its gone |
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