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Location: Deep South | sodapop - 2013-08-23 7:30 PM
3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:50 PM TurnLane - 2013-08-23 2:41 PM I agree with you completely about the differences of rodeo vs 4d. But I have seen it time and time again, the top rodeo horses running in the 2d at the largest 4d races around so it really goes both ways-I respect them all. And ONE run in ONE day- against the top futurity horses or great old horses owned by those who dont care to haul and the NFR girls-- its gonna be a blood bath. I cant wait to watch.  This is ture about the rodeo horses running in the 2D, but they are making the 4D horses run on the rodeo horse's "turf" so to speak. So the 4D and futurity horses are kind of at a disadvantage being taken out of their normal atmosphere where they are used to excelling. Not that they can't step it up and run in the rodeo atmosphere, it's just not their normal, where is it normal for the Top 10 NFR qualifiers that are invited. What they really need to do is have a race where there is an average, and one run takes place at a rodeo, and the other with a normal 4D race type of set up. Therefore, each horse gets a chance to compete on their own "turf" so to speak. That is a whole other competition though!
This is why I'm so excited!!! Hopefully we get to see these guys competing against the top 10 WPRA girls. The best of BOTH worlds.  |
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Location: Oregon | missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them.
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Location: ND | crapshooter - 2013-08-24 7:26 PM missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them.
these qualifiers aren't going to be what i consider 'weekenders' |
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Location: MD | dhdqhllc - 2013-08-24 8:06 PM
crapshooter - 2013-08-24 7:26 PM missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM Â this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them.Â
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Location: East Texas | Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in.
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| NJJ - 2013-08-24 9:52 PM CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in.
Can't they qualify like everybody else or do they have to belong to the PBR to enter?
So the NFR top ten bull riders won't qualify automatically? I just figured they would and the PBR would have their own qualifiers, but I didn't read over the bull riding. Is it the top ten PBR that get in automatically? |
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Location: Texas | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-24 12:05 PM 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot. 
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd.
I think if you're gonna pay your first big entry fee somewhere, this would be a good time to do it! An opportunity like this could put you on a whole different playing field. I say even if you have to sell some stuff to justify that $500 it's worth a shot, especially since you already know that qualifier pen and know the rodeo atmosphere! |
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Location: Texas | rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-24 12:05 PM 3 To Go - 2013-08-23 4:29 PM rodeowithjoker - 2013-08-23 6:20 AM I was getting excited and thinking I'd for sure go to the Lincoln Barrel Bash this year but then I saw that its a $500 entry fee to run in their qualifier race. I was hoping it was just part of the Barrel Bash or had a smaller entry fee......$100 maybe but I don't see any way "normal" people could (or would be willing to) swing $500. A normal entry fee for a pro rodeo is right around $100 when they have $2000 added. Salinas was $400 and they had around 125 girls this year. Futurity entry fees are $600 and up with the slot races being $5000. Those people won't bat an eye. Their intent is not to have the "normal" people. They want the people who can compete and those people won't give a second thought to paying that $500 entry fee because they know they have a horse that can win at at level. What will be interesting is seeing if the top 4D horses can run in the "rodeo" atmosphere. It's quite different to run on bad ground with a lot of distractions around the arena than at a 4D barrel race with perfect ground and some music playing. No matter how hard they try, the ground will not be like it is at the barrel races unless they set up a separate arena for the barrel race only, or run the barrel race first. After you have everyone tromping around on the ground for a couple hours before you run barrels at a rodeo in a performance it changes a bit!
Chance loves the pen at Lincoln so if he will win a couple grand the next couple weekends, I might have to give it a shot.
I do agree that it will be interesting to see those big time 4D horses run on less than perfect ground and in a wilder atmosphere with a screaming crowd.
I think if you're gonna pay your first big entry fee somewhere, this would be a good time to do it! An opportunity like this could put you on a whole different playing field. I say even if you have to sell some stuff to justify that $500 it's worth a shot, especially since you already know that qualifier pen and know the rodeo atmosphere! |
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Location: Texas | WrapSnap - 2013-08-24 8:12 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-08-24 8:06 PM crapshooter - 2013-08-24 7:26 PM missroselee - 2013-08-24 12:21 PM cowboynsouthtx81 - 2013-08-24 3:16 PM this is a pretty cool concept!
I wonder though, how the pros will feel when a weekender beats them out and wins $1 million If they are truly a PRO....they will congratulate them. true story!
True! You aren't a "weekender" if you go every weekend of the year and do this for a living... |
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| There may be a one off type of situation where a little known name would win. But there's a bunch of folks that may have run pro in the past and not hauling now, or ones that haul only locally that can hang with the top 10. It's just that they don't have either the time, money or support to be on the rodeo road all the time. It's one of those that I see maybe stepping up to grab this...and Mark Bugni is another male jockey/trainer that's worth watching. He's won a lot for owners/slot holders this past year. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over.
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Location: East Texas | It looks to be an invitational event, and the top ten PRCA guys are getting an invite except for the bull riders. |
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| Calangelo - 2013-08-25 12:05 PM I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over. I wonder as well. It's even called the "AT&T Stadium" now..........another way to make some cash for ole Jerry. On RFD-TV when they had their round table type discussion & call-ins Stephen Jones (Jerry's son) called in to speak. The head of the PBR said they were working out something to make a "deal" on tickets and parking. He said something about the cheapest tickets being around $20 which will probably be lawnchairs on the very tip top. After all of the sponsors get their free tickets and then people buy them online, I will be anxious to see at what price everyone will scalp them........... because unless you buy them through the venue, you are buying a scalped ticket anywhere else........ except for those who sell the tickets at cost which almost never happens. Then those who buy them from the other sites will go around telling the tickets were this or that outrageous amount because they didn't realize they bought the tickets at a marked up scalped price. LOL
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| sodapop - 2013-08-25 12:02 PM Calangelo - 2013-08-25 12:05 PM I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over. I wonder as well. It's even called the "AT&T Stadium" now..........another way to make some cash for ole Jerry. On RFD-TV when they had their round table type discussion & call-ins Stephen Jones (Jerry's son) called in to speak. The head of the PBR said they were working out something to make a "deal" on tickets and parking. He said something about the cheapest tickets being around $20 which will probably be lawnchairs on the very tip top. After all of the sponsors get their free tickets and then people buy them online, I will be anxious to see at what price everyone will scalp them........... because unless you buy them through the venue, you are buying a scalped ticket anywhere else........ except for those who sell the tickets at cost which almost never happens. Then those who buy them from the other sites will go around telling the tickets were this or that outrageous amount because they didn't realize they bought the tickets at a marked up scalped price. LOL
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Location: Mansfield, TX | CrossDRanch - 2013-08-24 8:16 PM Crappy that the PRCA bull riders won't get to go. The PRCA should have taken care of them and Randy seems to be a snake for just letting his PBR boys in. Wait a minute!!! I don't think that's the way the bullriding works at all. (While I'm only sure how the barrel racing works because of our involvement with the BBR) the way I understand it, it's the top 10 PRCA guys VS. the top riders to qualify through the ranks of the PBR. Just like the top 10 WPRA riders Vs. the top riders qualifing through the BBR events. Before we start name calling lets get all the facts. I'm looking at the media kit that was handed out at the press conference, and it clearly says:
Be a part of history as the Top 10 contestants in the world from EACH event battle it out...but wait a minute we are not done...
ANYONE else out there that thinks they are better the the world's best gets their shout a part of $2,000.000. There will be five qualifiers sanctioned by the Professional Bull Riders, Pro Roughstock Series, United States Team Roping Championship, Better Barrel Races and the Ultimate Calf Roping for each event around the country for those that want their chance to beat the world's best on March 2, 2014.
I might be wrong, but that's the way I understand it.
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Location: East Texas | Fair enough..... And I read the press release and it just says the top contestants, but did not mention how they were determining the top contestants. Besides I got my info from bull riders and they can't be the smartest group if they get on a bull for a living. |
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| mandolin - 2013-08-25 3:35 PM sodapop - 2013-08-25 12:02 PM Calangelo - 2013-08-25 12:05 PM I think this is going to be great watching! Can't wait to get a ticket and go down there. However, since my friend just paid $60 for parking at the Jerrydome yesterday for a pre-season game I wonder how much this one's going to cost for tickets and parking. Maybe I'll make a hotel reservation now and plan cab it over. I wonder as well. It's even called the "AT&T Stadium" now..........another way to make some cash for ole Jerry. On RFD-TV when they had their round table type discussion & call-ins Stephen Jones (Jerry's son) called in to speak. The head of the PBR said they were working out something to make a "deal" on tickets and parking. He said something about the cheapest tickets being around $20 which will probably be lawnchairs on the very tip top. After all of the sponsors get their free tickets and then people buy them online, I will be anxious to see at what price everyone will scalp them........... because unless you buy them through the venue, you are buying a scalped ticket anywhere else........ except for those who sell the tickets at cost which almost never happens. Then those who buy them from the other sites will go around telling the tickets were this or that outrageous amount because they didn't realize they bought the tickets at a marked up scalped price. LOL
I never said I thought it would sell out.
That's a huge stadium. I don't know if it sells out when they have PBR events, if they even open up all the seats, or what. Doesn't matter one bit to me how many seats they sell. I'm sure it will be as successful as the PBR events they've had there since the PBR is involved. |
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Location: OK | So for the qualifier, if I understand this right, will cost me $750. Of that $750, only $125 goes in the pot that day. Another $125 goes to Mesquite for the semi finals. No entry fee there.
Then, all the rest goes in a pot at the American, where the pros and the rest run at each other. Did the pros go to a qualifier? Did they pay any entry fee? Do they pay an entry fee at the American, or are they running at my money?
this to me sounds like, IF I made it, (theoretically speaking) that I would enter a qualifier for not a very big pot, then the semis, for not a very big pot, only to go to the American, where it's double hard to win, for the big $, only to have a CHANCE TO DRAW $1 mil.
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