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Location: Phoenix | I don't think equal payouts are fair, but I DO think it would bring more entries.
My my theory is if you don't like the 3D horse winning as much as you in the 1D, then it's time to start entering rodeos. |
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 4:39 PM
God Is My Light - 2013-11-25 4:35 PM barrelbasher - 2013-11-25 4:28 PM Oh brother can I have some of that popcorn? This has potential to get Ugly! Sure lol  
Well I am under 21 lol so ill just stick to Iced tea or water lol sorry   |
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| I am not a fan of equal payout.
I appreciate the divisions though! But it comes down to chance with those.
To be at the top requires a lot of work-if you are there you deserve more payout.
I seriously think DD really just likes to get everyone all riled up...and most of the time people fall for it hook, line, and sinker.  |
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| LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM
stetchkk - 2013-11-25 3:35 PM
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SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:30 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:16 PM Haven't we already discussed this about 800 times?   At least 1000 times and the answers and opinions never never ever vary.
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I searched for anything in the last year on bhw about equal payouts and saw nothing. That's why I posted. Thanks.
Check again.....we talk about this at least once a month....it's always the same.....another margarita please : )
Well sorry you're so put out by the topic of my post. Some of us aren't on here 24/7. Was just looking for others opinions and if they do this sort of thing in other areas besides just where I live. Next time I'll ask if it's okay to discuss it. Wow. |
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | magic gunsmoke - 2013-11-25 7:34 PM
I am not a fan of equal payout.
I appreciate the divisions though! But it comes down to chance with those.
To be at the top requires a lot of work-if you are there you deserve more payout.
I seriously think DD really just likes to get everyone all riled up...and most of the time people fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
I agree with all of that, DD is a classic on here ......you kind of just have to go with the flow. |
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Location: Iowa | She had a very legit question. I find everyones reasoning interesting to read. If you've heard it before and don't want to see it discussed then Don't read the post and respond. |
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | Got Fresh popcorn for the night crew anybody want some ?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | God Is My Light - 2013-11-25 7:29 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 4:39 PM God Is My Light - 2013-11-25 4:35 PM barrelbasher - 2013-11-25 4:28 PM Oh brother can I have some of that popcorn? This has potential to get Ugly! Sure lol Well I am under 21 lol so ill just stick to Iced tea or water lol sorry
You sure do remind me of another BB that was on here for a while  , you got to be the same one just different name  |
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  The Original Cyber Bartender
Location: Washington | I say they should allow the 4-5 D runners to set the pace. Then place accordlingly backwards.  |
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Location: Prosser, WA | LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM stetchkk - 2013-11-25 3:35 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 1:32 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:30 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:16 PM Haven't we already discussed this about 800 times? At least 1000 times and the answers and opinions never never ever vary.
I searched for anything in the last year on bhw about equal payouts and saw nothing. That's why I posted. Thanks. Check again.....we talk about this at least once a month....it's always the same.....another margarita please : )
The only thing that has changed is the people complaining about another equal payout thread are going for the harder drinks this time. LOL. |
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 Did I miss the party?
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| Reminds me of where today's society is heading. Everyone gets a trophy just for participating. Which to me, makes people they deserve something just for showing up instead of being motivated to get better.
No, I definitely don't agree with equal pay for each division. It is a RACE (hence the name "barrel race"), the fastest time deserves the highest payout.
Doesn't mean people who didn't win the 1D don't work as hard, pay the same dues, etc.... they just didn't win the RACE that day. So, they don't get the same prize as the one who did. But, hopefully, what they did get, is motivation for next time. |
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| barrelracinbroke - 2013-11-25 8:42 PM
Reminds me of where today's society is heading. Everyone gets a trophy just for participating. Which to me, makes people they deserve something just for showing up instead of being motivated to get better.
No, I definitely don't agree with equal pay for each division. It is a RACE (hence the name "barrel race"), the fastest time deserves the highest payout.
Doesn't mean people who didn't win the 1D don't work as hard, pay the same dues, etc.... they just didn't win the RACE that day. So, they don't get the same prize as the one who did. But, hopefully, what they did get, is motivation for next time.
EXACTLY! Everyone should NOT get a trophy just for participating. This is a RACE!!!! Couldn't have said it better. Everyone works hard but if you're not in the 1D and you wanna make 1D money you better work harder. |
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| barrelracinbroke - 2013-11-25 8:42 PM Reminds me of where today's society is heading. Everyone gets a trophy just for participating. Which to me, makes people they deserve something just for showing up instead of being motivated to get better.
No, I definitely don't agree with equal pay for each division. It is a RACE (hence the name "barrel race"), the fastest time deserves the highest payout.
Doesn't mean people who didn't win the 1D don't work as hard, pay the same dues, etc.... they just didn't win the RACE that day. So, they don't get the same prize as the one who did. But, hopefully, what they did get, is motivation for next time.
Another inaccurate political cliche unless of course you are abdicating elimination of the D system.
On the other hand if you are comparing the redistribution of 2,3 or 4 D money to the 1D winner, then it is similar to ObamaCare forcing young healthy citizens to subsidize the healthcare premiums for others. |
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Location: Way up North | TXBO - 2013-11-25 8:59 PM barrelracinbroke - 2013-11-25 8:42 PM Reminds me of where today's society is heading. Everyone gets a trophy just for participating. Which to me, makes people they deserve something just for showing up instead of being motivated to get better.
No, I definitely don't agree with equal pay for each division. It is a RACE (hence the name "barrel race"), the fastest time deserves the highest payout.
Doesn't mean people who didn't win the 1D don't work as hard, pay the same dues, etc.... they just didn't win the RACE that day. So, they don't get the same prize as the one who did. But, hopefully, what they did get, is motivation for next time. Another inaccurate political cliche unless of course you are abdicating elimination of the D system.
On the other hand if you are comparing the redistribution of 2,3 or 4 D money to the 1D winner, then it is similar to ObamaCare forcing young healthy citizens to subsidize the healthcare premiums for others.
Exactly. I think people are missing the point, the divisional system already did away with the faster horses getting paid more; ther will always be a horse that ran just a hair too fast that ends up last hole no money and next hole, which is slower, gets a check. We forget that the divisional system did enormous things for this industry. There are even WP trainers advocating for a similar system to come into play for judged classes to help boost their numbers. I don't see how they could make that happen fairly but it's incredible for people in other branches of the horse industry to see how much something a lot of people were against do so much good. |
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | And for your half time show
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Location: western Nebraska | I put on a three day barrel race every spring here in Nebraska. We use the payoff scale of 40,30,20,10 % to the D's. But we give prizes for each barrel race-(There are five). Prizes to lst and 2nd in each d and overall division winners. We also give overall prizes and use a point system where the d's all get the same points so a 4-d horse has just as much chance to win the overall as the 1-d horse.
We have never had anyone even suggest to have the payoff equal.
I don't rodeo anymore but have a 1-d, 2-d-hopefully to be a 1-d when he can go faster than a lope to the lst barrel, and a couple of colts. I can tell you that for sure the 1-d horse has more wear and tear on him going fast than the horses that are running in the 3 and 4ds
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Did I miss the party?
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| TXBO - 2013-11-25 6:59 PM barrelracinbroke - 2013-11-25 8:42 PM Reminds me of where today's society is heading. Everyone gets a trophy just for participating. Which to me, makes people they deserve something just for showing up instead of being motivated to get better.
No, I definitely don't agree with equal pay for each division. It is a RACE (hence the name "barrel race"), the fastest time deserves the highest payout.
Doesn't mean people who didn't win the 1D don't work as hard, pay the same dues, etc.... they just didn't win the RACE that day. So, they don't get the same prize as the one who did. But, hopefully, what they did get, is motivation for next time. Another inaccurate political cliche unless of course you are abdicating elimination of the D system.
On the other hand if you are comparing the redistribution of 2,3 or 4 D money to the 1D winner, then it is similar to ObamaCare forcing young healthy citizens to subsidize the healthcare premiums for others.
Absolutely no political undertone. No one needs to be assumptive in my reply. It is clear. As written, it is simply my opinion on equal payout for all divisions. I do not agree with it.
I completely support the "D" system and what it has done for barrel racing. Myself included.
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | And for your half time show
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Googly Goo
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| barrelracinbroke - 2013-11-25 9:15 PM TXBO - 2013-11-25 6:59 PM barrelracinbroke - 2013-11-25 8:42 PM Reminds me of where today's society is heading. Everyone gets a trophy just for participating. Which to me, makes people they deserve something just for showing up instead of being motivated to get better.
No, I definitely don't agree with equal pay for each division. It is a RACE (hence the name "barrel race"), the fastest time deserves the highest payout.
Doesn't mean people who didn't win the 1D don't work as hard, pay the same dues, etc.... they just didn't win the RACE that day. So, they don't get the same prize as the one who did. But, hopefully, what they did get, is motivation for next time. Another inaccurate political cliche unless of course you are abdicating elimination of the D system.
On the other hand if you are comparing the redistribution of 2,3 or 4 D money to the 1D winner, then it is similar to ObamaCare forcing young healthy citizens to subsidize the healthcare premiums for others.
You certainly imply political undertones when you suggest society is head toward trophies for all.
Ironically, the D system aligns with this philosophy equally if not more than equal pay. Yet the D system you like. Isn't that hypocritical? |
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Location: Washington | fatchance - 2013-11-25 6:29 PM I say they should allow the 4-5 D runners to set the pace. Then place accordlingly backwards.
Why is this being ignored? It a valid point..... |
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