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The more consistent they are-the more they are worth.
As other posts said-you are still going to get a good horse with 1D credentials. It is just a matter of how consistent they place there.
Those types of horses pay their way though. If you haul every weekend and place in the 1D in ONE class in one weekend your entry fees, fuel, ect. are pretty much covered. At the very least you are breaking even.
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Location: Florida.. | WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 2:25 PM The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?!
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| roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy. 
If I spent 60,000 on a horse I'd figure out a way to ride it. For that kind of money he should come with a brain and be smart enough to compensate (somewhat) for rider error.
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| cinch - 2013-12-05 10:10 PM
roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.Â
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.  Â
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.  Â
Please note I said somewhat.Â
I have to disagree with ya some here, if you want to ride at that level, you HAVE to be willing to be on your A game just as much as your horse is. People do NOT win tough rodeos or win/place in big 1Ds without them being on their A game just as much, if not more than the horse. A good horse is very very very rarely good because it protects its rider. You as a rider help that horse make those perfect runs. If you can't jockey that caliber of a horse, you shouldn't buy one with the expectations that he will run like he did with the current jockey! This isn't aimed at you I just hate to hear people say things like this about high dollar horses! Most $60k horses are priced like that because of their ability, not because of how easy they are to ride! Like I say cinch this isnt aimed at you, I know you said "somewhat", but just putting in my opinion!!
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| cinch - 2013-12-05 8:10 PM
roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.Â
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.  Â
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.  Â
Please note I said somewhat.Â
for that kind of $$ I would SERIOUSLY invest in a trainer so I could ride said horse. If I spent that, you bet your britches that I would have a top rider in my area keep the horse tuned up and try to get me dialed in with my 4 legged rocket. Yet...I would treat him like the 9 karat diamond that he would be, magnets, chiropractors, ice-vibe boots, whatever it took to keep this horse tip-top. If you drop that kind of $ into a horse and not maintain it in all ways, you deserve to end up with a problem. Unfortunately at the big hunter/jumper barns where I grew up, that was all too common. |
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Location: Oklahoma | cinch - 2013-12-05 10:10 PM
roanrider - 2013-12-05 5:23 PM I think the $60K horse should ask the new owner for a "rider resume", not everyone can ride a rocket.Â
And heaven forbid if the horse doesn't win EVERY single barrel race/rodeo they go to the bleacher jockeys will darn sure point out how new owner paid WAY to much and the horse isn't NEAR that nice cause bleacher jockeys ALWAYS know best.  Â
I know the OP didn't ask for this angle but it Drives. Me. Crazy.  Â
Please note I said somewhat.Â
I have one of those horses, and I've tried and tried to be able to ride him. He runs 3D/4D with me because I'm scared of his speed and hold him back, but I can turn around, put a high school girl on him who has no fear, and she'll outrun me a full second or more. I used to be able to ride that kind, but I can't now, and I'm not even sure I want to any more. Hence why he's for sale....and he's not $60K....but he's in the older age bracket and that's why. You have to be VERY strong to ride those kinds of horses and also fearless. I am neither anymore. |
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| I have one of those horses, and I've tried and tried to be able to ride him. He runs 3D/4D with me because I'm scared of his speed and hold him back, but I can turn around, put a high school girl on him who has no fear, and she'll outrun me a full second or more. I used to be able to ride that kind, but I can't now, and I'm not even sure I want to any more. Hence why he's for sale....and he's not $60K....but he's in the older age bracket and that's why. You have to be VERY strong to ride those kinds of horses and also fearless. I am neither anymore.
I am kind of in the same boat, but a beginner to the sport of barrel racing, so hold back because I am afraid to go full tilt. My horse is nowhere NEAR a $60k horse, but she will go as fast as you ask...which for me is the 4D. This is why the divisional races are great. For those of us who CAN'T or WON'T go full tilt...we don't get left in the cold. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | HorseMommyFiveO - 2013-12-05 5:16 PM dhdqhllc - 2013-12-05 4:40 PM so would it be less of a discussion if we had a 10k horse that we hauled around in a 50k pickup and 40k trailer........ Hahaha yep!!! I'd rather have all the $$ in my horse and not in a rig. But that's just me.
Isn't that the truth lol. I don't have a $60,000 horse, but it's obvious that I put my money into my horses when you see the truck and trailer I'm driving around lol......even my clothes for that matter....it's difficult to find clothes at my house that don't have a hole in them somewhere....I wear them until they fall off of me.... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | I fully expect someone to beat my dumb a$$ for spending that much on a black hole that will do nothing but absorb more money.. |
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Location: North Dakota | Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! |
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Location: NC | For $60,000 I expect a horse that can pay my bills!!!!  |
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Location: Deep South | angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM
Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special!
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| Ooooo, he's NICE. You still make it look easy. 
ETA: I was trying to reply to Dianne. Oops.
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Location: Beggs, OK | WrapSnap - 2013-12-05 1:25 PM The one thing that keeps jumping out at me is that everyone wants this $60,000 horse to run and turn hard enough to win week in and week out, go to the NFR and run and turn hard enough to pull checks 10 nights in a row and not require maintenance?!?!?!
That's what had me shaking my head too...All you read on here is stories people are telling about maintenance on horses that I wouldn't even put in my trailer.
The top horses require maintenance because they tear themselves up trying and giving you that extra heart that you are never going to get out of your 3D horse that hates it's job.
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| Komet - 2013-12-06 5:46 AM
I fully expect someone to beat my dumb a$$ for spending that much on a black hole that will do nothing but absorb more money..
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| We sold a horse for 50 k a few years ago and the person who got him got a solid broke 1D trail riding, easy to haul, handle, and work with horse. Any one who could hang with him could ride him. He snaps a barrel so fast not many can stay with him, but anyone could trail ride him. |
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| Just to be a smart a$$!!
This is stolen from another thread!
Pure Victory Dash won the Futurity in 2008, FM Radio was second. Boogie Woogie Jones and Angie Meadors won the Juvenile that year. Angie Grandprie also won the BBR Finals earlier that year on Pure Victory Dash. She was sold through the Heritage place sale in 2010 for $50,000.
http://www.heritageplace.com/sales_2010/Winter2010/HighestSellingBroodmare.pdf
It's not too unrealistic to expect a 60 grand horse to take you to the nfr!
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| JRC - 2013-12-06 12:00 PM
Just to be a smart a$$!!
This is stolen from another thread!
Pure Victory Dash won the Futurity in 2008, FM Radio was second. Boogie Woogie Jones and Angie Meadors won the Juvenile that year. Angie Grandprie also won the BBR Finals earlier that year on Pure Victory Dash. She was sold through the Heritage place sale in 2010 for $50,000.
http://www.heritageplace.com/sales_2010/Winter2010/HighestSellingBroodmare.pdf
It's not to unrealistic to expect a 60 grand horse to take you to the nfr!
Yes, but she certainly doesn't meet some people's requirements of being calm! LOL. She looks to be a bit of a handful. She was also not seasoned in rodeos yet when purchased. Sydni has most likely put in some time, and miles on getting her to the point of running down the alley at the T&M. Her price would likely have doubled now. |
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Location: North Dakota | BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-06 9:10 AM angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! Might want to check your research....
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Location: wolverton,mn | Just Bring It - 2013-12-06 2:23 PM BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-06 9:10 AM angelica - 2013-12-06 6:49 AM Most of the people at the NFR made the horse they have and definately didn't pay $100k to get the horse except maybe a slim few who did. They are all fantastic riders and could likely make a good horse out of $1000 sale barn special! Might want to check your research....Big DITTO!
No kidding! Wow! Then when people can't ride a really nice horse the horse takes the hit!
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