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Location: Far North! | Please excuse this post if I repeat something already said - I just read pg 4.
I think the US Government knows where it is. They don't need men on the ground to fight these kinds of wars they need intel and smarts to out play the terrorists at this game.
The plane can be used as a weapon. If it flew undetected for several hours then who is to say it couldn't do it again.
Maybe filled with bombs instead of passengers next time.
I wish peace to those unsuspecting families caught up in this nightmare and for a quick resolve. |
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Runninformoney - 2014-03-15 7:56 PM What ever the senerio it's not good. I feel so bad for the family's. I wonder why nothing has been reported about them It wouldn't surprise me if our government doesn't know a lot more than is being reported. It's a very scary world we live in & they want to cut our military at a time like this.
AMEN...:I totally agree with you.
I think they are still alive.
I hate to say it, but if the plane landed I don't think that the passengers did, at least alive. What they do know of the flight path is that it went straight up to above 43k feet where, if denied oxygen masks the passengers would have become unconscious and eventually dead. Then it descended to below radar detection and zigzagged around (where hubby thinks they would have been dumping bodies and luggage which would allow the plane to fly farther on available fuel). The rapid ascent would probably prevent anybody from calling anyone or rushing the cockpit for control.
If it did land, I fully expect it to be used in a terror attack somewhere.
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Location: Florida.. | is it possible to dump bodies in flight ? you cant open anything to push them out can you? or can you?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Bibliafarm - 2014-03-16 6:11 PM is it possible to dump bodies in flight ? you cant open anything to push them out can you? or can you?
The only way they could do that would be to blow a door open and that would suck everything out of the plane. |
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Location: Florida.. | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-16 7:36 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-03-16 6:11 PM is it possible to dump bodies in flight ? you cant open anything to push them out can you? or can you?
The only way they could do that would be to blow a door open and that would suck everything out of the plane.
that is what I thought to..
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| Kim Allen - 2014-03-16 3:14 PM Please excuse this post if I repeat something already said - I just read pg 4. I think the US Government knows where it is. They don't need men on the ground to fight these kinds of wars they need intel and smarts to out play the terrorists at this game. The plane can be used as a weapon. If it flew undetected for several hours then who is to say it couldn't do it again. Maybe filled with bombs instead of passengers next time. I wish peace to those unsuspecting families caught up in this nightmare and for a quick resolve. I honestly think our government KNOWS the whole story too - and (once again), they are LYING about it - just like they do everything else. I feel so, so bad for those families that are left wondering where their loved ones are. We have satellites that can read your license plate, don't even TRY to tell me they can't find a 777! SERIOUSLY - I'm not buying it.
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Location: Alberta | I honestly had to Google Boeing 777 to see how big, 200 plus people on board are a lot of people to control and have nobody send out something....
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Location: Oklahoma | dream_chaser - 2014-03-17 7:32 AM I honestly had to Google Boeing 777 to see how big, 200 plus people on board are a lot of people to control and have nobody send out something....
We were talking about that this weekend.. When 9/11 happened there were calls and texts from the planes.. the only way that people wouldn't be contacting folks if
a... they are dead or b. they somehow got everyone's phones...200 people is a lot of people to subdue and get phones.. Guess it could be done. And I am sure they are dead batteries by now.. but can't the phone companies do their thing and /track them the cell phones or even the families. |
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Location: Florida.. | if in fact theya re alive id think yes they could have texted or something.. before they were killed.. unless it just exploded.. no warning.. or also went straight down no warning.. or... they had no idea they turned around or off path then it was bombed.. another theory strange one would be they gassed them all.. toxic in the air .. so passengers had no clue..and had masks on themselves.. |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-03-16 7:36 PM
Bibliafarm - 2014-03-16 6:11 PM is it possible to dump bodies in flight ? you cant open anything to push them out can you? or can you?
The only way they could do that would be to blow a door open and that would suck everything out of the plane.
They could, but they would have to go really low. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | And interesting interview I heard this morning was that the transponder coded is given to each pilot prior to the plane departing which leads more to the pilot having something to do with this plane disappearance. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | quikchik - 2014-03-17 9:23 AM
HotbearLVR - 2014-03-16 7:36 PM
Bibliafarm - 2014-03-16 6:11 PM is it possible to dump bodies in flight ? you cant open anything to push them out can you? or can you?
The only way they could do that would be to blow a door open and that would suck everything out of the plane.
They could, but they would have to go really low.
True it has to be low to the ground. Like the heights for skydiving. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | CJE - 2014-03-17 9:26 AM
And interesting interview I heard this morning was that the transponder coded is given to each pilot prior to the plane departing which leads more to the pilot having something to do with this plane disappearance.
Yes, the pilot gets their squawk code when they file their IFR plan. (instrument flight rules) The default for VFR (visual flight rules) is 1200. I don't know how the big jets work, but the small planes can't turn their transponder off, although there is a button to actively send the squawk out and the traffic people will occasionally ask you to re-send it. Unidentified planes being flown into a "traffic" space, like around an airport with a tower, will be asked to squawk a code for id so they can be tracked and directed through the space, even if they are flying VFR. So planes show up on radar if they have enough altitude, even if they are not identified with a code. |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | runningfree123 - 2014-03-17 9:06 AM dream_chaser - 2014-03-17 7:32 AM I honestly had to Google Boeing 777 to see how big, 200 plus people on board are a lot of people to control and have nobody send out something.... We were talking about that this weekend.. When 9/11 happened there were calls and texts from the planes.. the only way that people wouldn't be contacting folks if
a... they are dead or b. they somehow got everyone's phones...200 people is a lot of people to subdue and get phones.. Guess it could be done. And I am sure they are dead batteries by now.. but can't the phone companies do their thing and /track them the cell phones or even the families.
Your thought process is very logical. This is what I gathered about the cell phones from various reports I saw this weekend.
1) Other countries don't have cell phone towers like the US does. They rely on satalites. Somehow this prevents them from locating where the calls are coming from like they can with towers.
2) WiFi was not available on this flight so that lessens the possibilty of sending calls or text from this plane.
3) The calls made from family members to their loved ones on this plane that ring and ring with no answer has to do with the satalite transmission not the phone itself.
True or not, these were the explainations given. Such a tragedy for the families and possibly many many others. Praying answers are found soon.
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| I have not read all the pages but wanted to point out a couple things:
It takes a very long runway to safely land a 777. We have a 10,000 ft runway now at the Manassas airport and the top size is a DC9 or DC10 ish which are probably less than half the size of a 777.
While talking to the hubb my thoughts keep returning to: if this plane landed anywhere with a long enough runway it would have to be in a populated enough area that someone would have seen/heard about all this by now and reported something. A 777 is one of those BIG planes that stands out even at a big airport. It is not a plane that could be landed or hidden in the middle of nowhere.
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Location: Florida.. | lonely va barrelxr - 2014-03-17 11:31 AM I have not read all the pages but wanted to point out a couple things:
It takes a very long runway to safely land a 777. We have a 10,000 ft runway now at the Manassas airport and the top size is a DC9 or DC10 ish which are probably less than half the size of a 777.
While talking to the hubb my thoughts keep returning to: if this plane landed anywhere with a long enough runway it would have to be in a populated enough area that someone would have seen/heard about all this by now and reported something. A 777 is one of those BIG planes that stands out even at a big airport. It is not a plane that could be landed or hidden in the middle of nowhere.
Just some thoughts.
agree.. maybe it was shot down .. maybe why all the hish hush.. they know where it is.. my guess is bottom of ocean.. but not the path it was suppossed to go |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-03-17 10:34 AM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-03-17 11:31 AM I have not read all the pages but wanted to point out a couple things:
It takes a very long runway to safely land a 777. We have a 10,000 ft runway now at the Manassas airport and the top size is a DC9 or DC10 ish which are probably less than half the size of a 777.
While talking to the hubb my thoughts keep returning to: if this plane landed anywhere with a long enough runway it would have to be in a populated enough area that someone would have seen/heard about all this by now and reported something. A 777 is one of those BIG planes that stands out even at a big airport. It is not a plane that could be landed or hidden in the middle of nowhere.
Just some thoughts. agree.. maybe it was shot down .. maybe why all the hish hush.. they know where it is.. my guess is bottom of ocean.. but not the path it was suppossed to go
My heart really feels for these families. My gosh, it's horrible enough when you KNOW you've lost a loved one to some sort of airline accident. But in this case when there is .0009% of a chance?
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Location: Where I am happiest | There is an awfull lot of desolate land all around the world you could land a plane like this. You dont absolutelly have to have a paved maintaned runway. There are also quite a few old or abandoned airports and some used strictly for cargo planes. |
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Location: So. California | How can the Malyasia government declare everyone has perished, when they haven't found the plane yet? There is debris in the ocean, but that debris has NOT been identified yet... This story just keeps getting stranger and stranger... |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Yeah...I don't really understand why they needed to make that statement now...even though they have not found any of the wreckage...and are relying soley on where it apparently may have been located at the time of it's last ping on the satellite? Seems a bit premature. Even if it turns out to be accurate...just seems like they are putting that conclusion out there with not much to back it up.
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