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| CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:26 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:23 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life. They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time. Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time. They can shed for periods of 7-10 days. And they have said that 99% of horses have already contracted EHV in their lifetimes. So almost all horses already are carriers, but most of the time, they don't shed or have a re-lapse.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't. Do you have a fungus? or possibly a blue 5 star?  
I might have a fungus, my dog finds my toes appealing, but his tongue hasn't fallen off yet.
I still haven't come up with a blue five star though. :( |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nateracer - 2014-04-04 4:44 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:26 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:23 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life. They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time. Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time. They can shed for periods of 7-10 days. And they have said that 99% of horses have already contracted EHV in their lifetimes. So almost all horses already are carriers, but most of the time, they don't shed or have a re-lapse.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't. Do you have a fungus? or possibly a blue 5 star?   I might have a fungus, my dog finds my toes appealing, but his tongue hasn't fallen off yet.
I still haven't come up with a blue five star though. :(
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   Location: PNW | Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-04 2:08 PM
ThreeCorners - 2014-04-04 8:57 AM
kwanatha - 2014-04-03 6:31 PM Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's ) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok. most cattle events were cancelled.
Most all barrel races were cancelled also, and there were some BIG ones scheduledΒ Β that were cancelled. We went no where and even the trainer we had colts with didnt let any horses in or out for that month. We all battened down the hatches and got it nipped quicky after the initial blow-up. Β You may have rodeo'd as they are set up more for the spectator anywayΒ but nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled.
Again, incorrect. I realize that there were quite a few events that were cancelled, but to say that "nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled" is patently false. Quite a few went on during this time period. I know, as I went to several. I really don't have a dog in this fight (midwest ), and hope that if people go they do take some precautions. Just stating the facts of what we experienced out west. Some events got cancelled, some went on, and no one got sick from any of the events that I went to. Do what you will with that info.
There were LOTS of races/shows cancelled - from events like the BRN4D Finals which is one of the biggest events in the NW to little local shows. MANY events were cancelled and rescheduled. Our local gymkhana association rescheduled three shows, I know that BRN4D rescheduled finals for that August, and Strobels' cancelled a race or two also.
ETA: I went to the PGW that year, but my horse was on LOCKDOWN when we got home and everything at the TRAC near his stall got sanitized before I even got him out of the trailer. No horses got sick, including mine. I just wanted to have the info out there that yes indeed, BIG races have been cancelled in the past due to outbreaks - BRN4D finals was supposed to have been 3 weeks (I think I'm counting right) before the PGW
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    Location: mn | linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. no comment  IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
I agree. I know I'll get a few black eyes for saying this, but I wish the producer would refund the fees to anyone traveling from the 'hotzone' and keep them from coming. I'm not entered and haven't been anywhere since fall either. So even though I feel mine haven't been exposed, that doesn't mean others up here haven't been hauling where they could have been exposed to it. Yeah I'd be disappointed to not go, but it would be for the greater good and I'd suck it up. I think it's a shame that the hundreds of people entered from other states that are not at all effected by this should have to worry. Our vets in MN are advising us not to travel. There's no reason people can't prevent this from crossing into other states. |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | northerngirl - 2014-04-04 5:02 PM linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. no comment  IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations. I agree. I know I'll get a few black eyes for saying this, but I wish the producer would refund the fees to anyone traveling from the 'hotzone' and keep them from coming. I'm not entered and haven't been anywhere since fall either. So even though I feel mine haven't been exposed, that doesn't mean others up here haven't been hauling where they could have been exposed to it. Yeah I'd be disappointed to not go, but it would be for the greater good and I'd suck it up. I think it's a shame that the hundreds of people entered from other states that are not at all effected by this should have to worry. Our vets in MN are advising us not to travel. There's no reason people can't prevent this from crossing into other states.
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          Location: You never know where I will show up...... | linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life. They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time. Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time. They can shed for periods of 7-10 days. I apologize, I should have been more clear. A dormant carrier can and will shed during times of stress throughout their life. So while it is true that they are not shedding 24/7 365 days a year, they can start shedding if the virus comes out of dormancy in their system. And this DOES sometimes happen without them ever showing signs of illness. So anytime you go anywhere to a show there CAN BE and more than likely is a horse there that is capable of shedding the virus.
It is a huge problem when there is an outbreak in a certain area. But the fact is-- some horses are affected for life and any time you purchase a new horse or you go somewhere you run the risk of bringing something home even if nothing was visibly sick.
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        Location: ND | rockinas - 2014-04-04 9:21 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life. They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time. Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time. They can shed for periods of 7-10 days. I apologize, I should have been more clear. A dormant carrier can and will shed during times of stress throughout their life. So while it is true that they are not shedding 24/7 365 days a year, they can start shedding if the virus comes out of dormancy in their system. And this DOES sometimes happen without them ever showing signs of illness. So anytime you go anywhere to a show there CAN BE and more than likely is a horse there that is capable of shedding the virus.
It is a huge problem when there is an outbreak in a certain area. But the fact is-- some horses are affected for life and any time you purchase a new horse or you go somewhere you run the risk of bringing something home even if nothing was visibly sick.
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| First I am not entered.... but I am from MN, and 4 hours from where the outbreak is going on..... I have not traveled anywhere since Feb, and am awaiting this whole thing to settle down before I start attending races.
To the girl who was looking up where people in and where they are in the draw... sorry but it is a waste of time. Because if I WAS in your draw, you wouldnt be at anymore risk than the person from Texas or Nebraska,.. just saying....
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| Rockin&Rollin - 2014-04-05 11:34 AM First I am not entered.... but I am from MN, and 4 hours from where the outbreak is going on..... I have not traveled anywhere since Feb, and am awaiting this whole thing to settle down before I start attending races. To the girl who was looking up where people in and where they are in the draw... sorry but it is a waste of time. Because if I WAS in your draw, you wouldnt be at anymore risk than the person from Texas or Nebraska,.. just saying.... BUT please dont judge everyone from MN as being exposed.....
I didn't judge everyone from MN. What I did was looked up where they were in relation to the outbreak. I know most people and their horses in MN don't have "cooties." I also know out of the millions of horses in the US, based on vet reports, there are 10-20 cases nationwide.
I really, really feel that after speaking with my vet and several others, social media is the reason we even know about this. Yes, it sucks, but it had happened for years according several vets. It's just now people are hearing about it and flying off the handle. Doing my research is for my piece of mind, not to place blame or point fingers. Each individual needs to do their research (however they want) and make their own decisions. |
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    Location: never in the right place | so you can EHV1 anywhere, example My horse has been at the vet clinic for 8 days he has severe Lymes Disease (**** ticks) and because he has a temp he is in the quarantine barn even though he is negative for all contagious diseases. I was supposed to pick him up today but get a call from the vet They had an emergency colic yesterday and somehow the horse had a temp so the put him in the quarantine barn with my horse, come to find out that horse tested positive for EHV1 and now my horse can't come home for 2 weeks. I have another horse here and have no where to put him so I don't want to make him suseptical (sp) to it. Besides I figure they will be able to chk on him more often than I can because of work and know the symptoms much better than I do, so he is better off there. I am just hoping he doesn't get it because his immnune system is already compromised with the Lyme- it is in his blood and spinal fluid. |
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| ctdrumrunr - 2014-04-05 1:06 PM so you can EHV1 anywhere, example My horse has been at the vet clinic for 8 days he has severe Lymes Disease (**** ticks) and because he has a temp he is in the quarantine barn even though he is negative for all contagious diseases. I was supposed to pick him up today but get a call from the vet They had an emergency colic yesterday and somehow the horse had a temp so the put him in the quarantine barn with my horse, come to find out that horse tested positive for EHV1 and now my horse can't come home for 2 weeks. I have another horse here and have no where to put him so I don't want to make him suseptical (sp) to it. Besides I figure they will be able to chk on him more often than I can because of work and know the symptoms much better than I do, so he is better off there. I am just hoping he doesn't get it because his immnune system is already compromised with the Lyme- it is in his blood and spinal fluid.
That stinks. Prayers for your horse. Lymes is nothing to mess with and to be exposed to more stuff is unfortunate. |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nateracer - 2014-04-05 12:40 PM Rockin&Rollin - 2014-04-05 11:34 AM First I am not entered.... but I am from MN, and 4 hours from where the outbreak is going on..... I have not traveled anywhere since Feb, and am awaiting this whole thing to settle down before I start attending races. To the girl who was looking up where people in and where they are in the draw... sorry but it is a waste of time. Because if I WAS in your draw, you wouldnt be at anymore risk than the person from Texas or Nebraska,.. just saying.... BUT please dont judge everyone from MN as being exposed..... I didn't judge everyone from MN. What I did was looked up where they were in relation to the outbreak. I know most people and their horses in MN don't have "cooties." I also know out of the millions of horses in the US, based on vet reports, there are 10-20 cases nationwide.
I really, really feel that after speaking with my vet and several others, social media is the reason we even know about this. Yes, it sucks, but it had happened for years according several vets. It's just now people are hearing about it and flying off the handle.
Doing my research is for my piece of mind, not to place blame or point fingers. Each individual needs to do their research (however they want ) and make their own decisions.
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     Location: Central Iowa, surrounded by corn! | It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down! |
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    Location: Southern Wisconsin | Chasinmydream - 2014-04-26 4:52 PM
It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!Β
Unfortunately this is true. She belonged to us. We are heartbroken but willing to share any info we can in hope that it will save another. Our horses haven't been off the property since their return Monday the 14th from Lincoln. |
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| Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 8:12 PM
Chasinmydream - 2014-04-26 4:52 PM
It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!Β
Unfortunately this is true. She belonged to us. We are heartbroken but willing to share any info we can in hope that it will save another. Our horses haven't been off the property since their return Monday the 14th from Lincoln.
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   Location: Nebraska | So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run? |
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     Location: South Dakota | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 8:12 PM
Chasinmydream - 2014-04-26 4:52 PM
It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!Β
Unfortunately this is true. She belonged to us. We are heartbroken but willing to share any info we can in hope that it will save another. Our horses haven't been off the property since their return Monday the 14th from Lincoln.
Not really any words but I am so sorry. |
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