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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-04-29 4:47 PM
Subject: RE: EHV-1 Update 4.29.14


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Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 4:43 PM

Health papers are required to cross state lines so if you cannot get a health papers for your horse how can they not vet you out? Β  Are they promoting you haul illegally across state lines?Β 

You'd think the producers would see it this way....

They should keep office fees for facility/time costs but refund entries like somebody else mentioned. I'm not putting blame all on contestants - it is absolutely wrong for producers to not offer refunds or reschedule.
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-04-29 4:50 PM
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Wow...they could possibly legitimately keep a deposit portion to cover their losses...but return the rest as a refund.  Thats the decent thing to do.  Hopefully they see that.  But if not...riders can vote with their wallets next year and not enter that producer's race.

 
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 4:52 PM
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svincent - 2014-04-29 4:47 PM
Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 4:43 PM Health papers are required to cross state lines so if you cannot get a health papers for your horse how can they not vet you out?   Are they promoting you haul illegally across state lines? 
You'd think the producers would see it this way.... They should keep office fees for facility/time costs but refund entries like somebody else mentioned. I'm not putting blame all on contestants - it is absolutely wrong for producers to not offer refunds or reschedule.

I agree. They can keep the $20 office fee or whatever it was and refund entry and stalls.  
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 4:53 PM
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You all should be calling these producers and not just asking, but putting the pressure on. They need to be responsable along with ALL horse owners. It's rediculas the selfishness and irrisponsability I see from the mid west people. Be HORSEMEN!! Stay home, let this outbreak die and in a month you will all be back at it and it will be nothing but a distant memory. If they keep holding shows, and you keep hauling, it will go on and on and on and then the Govt. Dept Of Ag will shut us all down for alot longer and we will forver be monitored greatly. I sure dont want to be babysat because the mid west couldnt pull their big boy and girl panties up and go camping or spend time with family for a month instead.

 
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EmtRoper
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-04-29 4:59 PM
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I know many people have talked to the R4R producers until they are blue in the face and are those people who have $500 or more invested in this weekend and it is simple we will not be getting a refund. Also this is the first time our group has ever attended this race and we have all agreed that this will be the last simply because the safety of horses is not considered. So weather we all decide to eat our entry fees or not is something we are still discussing.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-04-29 4:59 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 4:53 PM

You all should be calling these producers and not just asking, but putting the pressure on. They need to be responsable along with ALLΒ horse owners. It's rediculas the selfishness and irrisponsability I see from the mid west people. Be HORSEMEN!! Stay home, let this outbreak die and in a month you will all be back at it and it will be nothing but a distant memory. If they keep holding shows, and you keep hauling, it will go on and on and on and then the Govt. Dept Of Ag will shut us all down for alot longer and we will forver be monitored greatly. I sure dont want to be babysat because the mid west couldnt pull their big boy and girl panties up and go camping or spend time with family for a monthΒ instead.

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Completely agree!
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 5:01 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 4:53 PM You all should be calling these producers and not just asking, but putting the pressure on. They need to be responsable along with ALL horse owners. It's rediculas the selfishness and irrisponsability I see from the mid west people. Be HORSEMEN!! Stay home, let this outbreak die and in a month you will all be back at it and it will be nothing but a distant memory. If they keep holding shows, and you keep hauling, it will go on and on and on and then the Govt. Dept Of Ag will shut us all down for alot longer and we will forver be monitored greatly. I sure dont want to be babysat because the mid west couldnt pull their big boy and girl panties up and go camping or spend time with family for a month instead.



 

I agree! Yes it is hard because we all have been cooped up for over 6 months with this horrible winter and are anxious to get out and run again but at this rate we won't be running until fall if we can't all shape up and get our priorities straight!!
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-29 5:04 PM
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 I messaged Big J today and no refund there either.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-29 5:20 PM
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EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 4:59 PM I know many people have talked to the R4R producers until they are blue in the face and are those people who have $500 or more invested in this weekend and it is simple we will not be getting a refund. Also this is the first time our group has ever attended this race and we have all agreed that this will be the last simply because the safety of horses is not considered. So weather we all decide to eat our entry fees or not is something we are still discussing.

These people not offering refunds and acting like jackwagons will also help make my decision when I go to enter future barrel races.  
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LDH
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-04-29 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: EHV-1 Update 4.29.14



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CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 3:39 PM

Barrel Burning Chick - 2014-04-29 3:35 PM Very frustrating! If the people from the affected areas had stayed home till the quarantine period was done (April 23) instead of going to Lincoln would we even be having this discussion right now?! Prob not. I just wish people would have just stayed home. Now we are looking at who knows when till it's safe I feel for those who have lost their companions in this horrible outbreak. It just plain sucks. I attended a race in brookings last weekend and who knows how many of those horses were exposed at Lincoln. I'm also entered up at race for roses

So I guess you should have stayed home from Brookings too.Β  Don't start pointing fingers at those of us that went. Β 

Based on the logic that she should have stayed home from Brookings too, those of us that worry about our horses safety and follow the vets instructions would all never be running again.

The no haul period was actually up on the 22nd of april. Vets were telling everyone to stay home until april 22nd,but after that, the travel ban was lifted and we were all told it was supposed to be safe again. No news of this horse getting sick was released until the 26th, which was the day that race was held in Brookings.
If everyone would have followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, at least the people who were from the states that had had previous cases, I am sure we would not be having this talk right now.
The race in Lincoln was held the 10th-13th. Everyone knew what was going on with EHV, at least people who are from the northern states, and they made the choice to haul horses to the race when vets were very clear about horses not traveling until the 22nd.
So actually, I would be pointing fingers at the people who decided to go, and then decided to haul again to other races knowing that they traveled to a big race before it was safe to travel again. If that would have been me and I would have felt the need to go to Lincoln in the midst of an outbreak, I would have at least not hauled my horses anywhere after that until the 28 days that horses are supposed to be quarantined was up.
Some of us gave up going to big races for the safety of our horses and others horses, and followed the vets instructions. Now we still have this whole mess because some people just could not for the life of them think of the big picture and just stay home for another few weeks.

I understand that people had a lot of money invested into this race...but the fact that even after hauling to this race when vets made it clear that people were supposed to be staying home, people who went this race just kept hauling to other races and possibly infecting horses whose owners had followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, really makes me mad.
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ks_cowgirl
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-04-29 5:59 PM
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To those without facebook:

EHV 1 update - posting this so everyone can find easier... update from 4-29-14
The KS State Vet office has called me with results (on the EHV1 test of the Ks suspect horse that attended the finals) I will have a statement soon. The horse in KS (Douglas County) is positive for EHV-1 non neurotrophic strain. I will have a statement from KS state vet office within the hour I hope and more information. I do know they will be issuing letters to all KS BRF contestants warning them of the confirmed case and information on monitoring their horses. He has informed me that they will NOT be mandating travel restrictions at this time. I WILL POST THE STATEMENT FROM HIM SOON AS WELL AS A STATEMENT FROM THE OWNER. Please continue to monitor your horses. The owner did not haul the horse ANYWHERE after the BRF. She did attend the Columbia MO NBHA event the weekend after with a second horse but not the horse that was euthanized.
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ks_cowgirl
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-04-29 6:07 PM
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And ...


We want everyone to know that we have been extensively monitoring EHV-1 issues that have been arising from Minnesota to the event in Lincoln, Nebraska through conversations with Dr. Jeff Van Petten and the producers of the Lincoln event.

Dr. Van Petten was just notified moments ago by the Kansas Department of Agriculture, Division of Animal Health, that there is a confirmed case of a Kansas horse that was euthanized and tested positive for EHV-1. At the time of this posting, we have not been advised of any additional cases with respect to EHV-1. A press release from the State of Kansas Division of Animal Health will be issued shortly with more details on the particular strain and with respect to movement of horses or scheduled events.


The Kansas NBHA wants to take a proactive role in trying to help control the EHV-1 virus to help protect our community of horses by choosing to reschedule our Kansas NBHA State Championships set for May 9-11, 2014. Stopping the movement of horses or large gatherings of horses is the first step in preventing the spread of the virus. The incubation periods and normal quarantine requirements will not expire until approximately the timeframe of our event and we feel this is the best decision for all to help control this highly-contagious disease.

Please visit your local vet or visit Dr. Jeff Van Petten’s Facebook page at Meriden Animal Hospital for tips on how to monitor and manage your horses for EHV-1.

We are working with the Kansas Expo Centre in finding a date where we can reschedule this event from their very limited options. We are currently looking at possible dates in August or October. We have a lot of conflict checking on big events to do. We are also working on a process to allow for carryover of the current entries, a refund request form for members needing that option, and an additional new entry deadline for members who might be able to enter the rescheduled show.

Please be patient through this process. We will keep everyone informed with updated information for the rescheduled show. As soon as we have the refund request forms ready and available we will post it on Facebook and on the web site at www.ksnbha.com. Please do not request refunds without the required form submission. If you have additional questions, please e-mail me at [email protected].

Our thoughts and prayers to those individuals who are dealing with the tragic loss of a horse through this. Please be sure to monitor your horses carefully.

Dawn Dawson
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Ashley Gustafson
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2014-04-29 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: EHV-1 Update 4.29.14



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LDH - 2014-04-29 5:42 PM

CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 3:39 PM

Barrel Burning Chick - 2014-04-29 3:35 PM Very frustrating! If the people from the affected areas had stayed home till the quarantine period was done (April 23) instead of going to Lincoln would we even be having this discussion right now?! Prob not. I just wish people would have just stayed home. Now we are looking at who knows when till it's safe I feel for those who have lost their companions in this horrible outbreak. It just plain sucks. I attended a race in brookings last weekend and who knows how many of those horses were exposed at Lincoln. I'm also entered up at race for roses

So I guess you should have stayed home from Brookings too.Β  Don't start pointing fingers at those of us that went. Β 

Based on the logic that she should have stayed home from Brookings too, those of us that worry about our horses safety and follow the vets instructions would all never be running again.

The no haul period was actually up on the 22nd of april. Vets were telling everyone to stay home until april 22nd,but after that, the travel ban was lifted and we were all told it was supposed to be safe again. No news of this horse getting sick was released until the 26th, which was the day that race was held in Brookings.
If everyone would have followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, at least the people who were from the states that had had previous cases, I am sure we would not be having this talk right now.
The race in Lincoln was held the 10th-13th. Everyone knew what was going on with EHV, at least people who are from the northern states, and they made the choice to haul horses to the race when vets were very clear about horses not traveling until the 22nd.
So actually, I would be pointing fingers at the people who decided to go, and then decided to haul again to other races knowing that they traveled to a big race before it was safe to travel again. If that would have been me and I would have felt the need to go to Lincoln in the midst of an outbreak, I would have at least not hauled my horses anywhere after that until the 28 days that horses are supposed to be quarantined was up.
Some of us gave up going to big races for the safety of our horses and others horses, and followed the vets instructions. Now we still have this whole mess because some people just could not for the life of them think of the big picture and just stay home for another few weeks.

I understand that people had a lot of money invested into this race...but the fact that even after hauling to this race when vets made it clear that people were supposed to be staying home, people who went this race just kept hauling to other races and possibly infecting horses whose owners had followed the recommendations and stayed home until the 22nd, really makes me mad.

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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-04-29 6:16 PM
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ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 6:07 PM And ... We want everyone to know that we have been extensively monitoring EHV-1 issues that have been arising from Minnesota to the event in Lincoln, Nebraska through conversations with Dr. Jeff Van Petten and the producers of the Lincoln event. Dr. Van Petten was just notified moments ago by the Kansas Department of Agriculture, Division of Animal Health, that there is a confirmed case of a Kansas horse that was euthanized and tested positive for EHV-1. At the time of this posting, we have not been advised of any additional cases with respect to EHV-1. A press release from the State of Kansas Division of Animal Health will be issued shortly with more details on the particular strain and with respect to movement of horses or scheduled events. The Kansas NBHA wants to take a proactive role in trying to help control the EHV-1 virus to help protect our community of horses by choosing to reschedule our Kansas NBHA State Championships set for May 9-11, 2014. Stopping the movement of horses or large gatherings of horses is the first step in preventing the spread of the virus. The incubation periods and normal quarantine requirements will not expire until approximately the timeframe of our event and we feel this is the best decision for all to help control this highly-contagious disease. Please visit your local vet or visit Dr. Jeff Van Petten’s Facebook page at Meriden Animal Hospital for tips on how to monitor and manage your horses for EHV-1. We are working with the Kansas Expo Centre in finding a date where we can reschedule this event from their very limited options. We are currently looking at possible dates in August or October. We have a lot of conflict checking on big events to do. We are also working on a process to allow for carryover of the current entries, a refund request form for members needing that option, and an additional new entry deadline for members who might be able to enter the rescheduled show. Please be patient through this process. We will keep everyone informed with updated information for the rescheduled show. As soon as we have the refund request forms ready and available we will post it on Facebook and on the web site at www.ksnbha.com. Please do not request refunds without the required form submission. If you have additional questions, please e-mail me at [email protected]. Our thoughts and prayers to those individuals who are dealing with the tragic loss of a horse through this. Please be sure to monitor your horses carefully. Dawn Dawson

 Thank you!
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-29 6:16 PM
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I didn't realize they have a backup date for the R2R. I guess I can't understand why they don't play it safe and move the race back, if that's the case. After all I've been saying about this virus, I would be a hypocrite to turn around and go. I'm staying home.
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 6:17 PM
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Yes Brookings was after the 14 day no haul was lifted.
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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-04-29 6:20 PM
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Kansas Dept of Ag just sent this press release out to newspapers -

109 SW 9th Street
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Jackie McClaskey, Secretary
Sam Brownback, Governor
 
For Immediate Release
 
For more information contact
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April 29, 2014
EHV-1 case confirmed in KansasTOPEKA, Kan. – The Kansas Department of Agriculture Animal Health Commissioner Dr. Bill Brown today reports that a horse in northeast Kansas has been confirmed positive with a wild type of a non-neurotropic case of Equine Herpes Virus <b></b>(EHV-1<b></b>).The affected horse was euthanized and samples were sent to Kansas State Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory on Friday, April 25. Preliminary tests showed lesions consistent to EHV-1.  Additional samples were then sent to the Equine Diagnostics Services in Lexington, Kentucky.   Results from a PCR test were received Tuesday afternoon confirming the positive nature of the samples.This horse had previously been to a large barrel racing event in Lincoln, Nebraska on April 10-13, where in the days following the event, a Wisconsin horse has also been confirmed positive for EHV-1 and euthanized. Horse owners are encouraged to monitor animals carefully for signs of the disease, including checking temperatures twice a day for changes and implementing good biosecurity practices for an equine facility.The virus is easily spread by airborne transmission, horse-to-horse contact and by contact with nasal secretions on equipment, tack, feed and other surfaces. Caregivers can spread the virus to other horses if their hands, clothing, shoes or vehicles are contaminated.Symptoms of the disease may include a fever, nasal discharge, wobbly gait, hind-end weakness and dribbling of urine. The neurological form, including wild strains, of the disease is often fatal.Due to the nature of this disease, the Kansas Department of Agriculture Division of Animal Health is not imposing any restrictions on equine events or movements at this time, however horse owners are encouraged to take precautionary measures when traveling or participating in equine events. If horse owners are planning on participating in upcoming horse events across Kansas, please call ahead to event planners to confirm if the event is still taking place.  For more information about EHV-1, please contact your local veterinarian.   
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 6:26 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 6:16 PM I didn't realize they have a backup date for the R2R. I guess I can't understand why they don't play it safe and move the race back, if that's the case. After all I've been saying about this virus, I would be a hypocrite to turn around and go. I'm staying home.

Good choice Scott. I hope they pull their heads out of their butts and at least refund those that choose to stay home. 

I will not be entering the Prospectors Challenge either if they do not want to take our horse's health into consideration. 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-29 6:29 PM
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I decided I will just get a recording of a loud crowd and set up speakers next to my arena at home. I'll pretend that I'm making sizzling runs until this thing blows over. Yeah, that should work.
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Just Bring It
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-04-29 6:36 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 6:29 PM I decided I will just get a recording of a loud crowd and set up speakers next to my arena at home. I'll pretend that I'm making sizzling runs until this thing blows over. Yeah, that should work.

Me too! Let's set up patterns that are the same size and time ourselves and then compare.  
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