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Location: Oklahoma | I don't think it should be as big of news as it is...for the simple fact that he's a good player, but like said before, his stats weren't that outstanding. I think it is a big issue, because the majority of people feel that it is hard to be openly gay in the professional world (and not just the professional sports world). Because of that, when you see someone overcome that, its a big deal to them. More power to them.
Personally, I came out in college...my rodeo team could give a crap less if i was dating another girl. All they cared about was winning ;) lol.
I've been openly gay forever....I don't walk around work introducing myself "Hi I'm Sergeant Sullivan and I'm a lesbian." Who cares? Its my life, not yours. lol. If people figure it out  good for them. I will never 'shove it' in someone's face. But you better believe I am an opinionated woman, and if you start trying to hold be back or treat me differently because of my sexuality, I'll be all up on that. In the professional world, be it sports, work, barrel racing, whatever,....no one should be treated any differently because of sexuality, race, religion, so on and so forth. No ones going to force you to be friends with them, but you should be able to manage to be a decent human being and interact and work with them well on a professional level.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | osu_barrelracer - 2014-05-14 12:53 PM
I don't think it should be as big of news as it is...for the simple fact that he's a good player, but like said before, his stats weren't that outstanding. I think it is a big issue, because the majority of people feel that it is hard to be openly gay in the professional world (and not just the professional sports world ). Because of that, when you see someone overcome that, its a big deal to them. More power to them.
Personally, I came out in college...my rodeo team could give a crap less if i was dating another girl. All they cared about was winning ; ) lol.
I've been openly gay forever....I don't walk around work introducing myself "Hi I'm Sergeant Sullivan and I'm a lesbian." Who cares? Its my life, not yours. lol. If people figure it out good for them. I will never 'shove it' in someone's face. But you better believe I am an opinionated woman, and if you start trying to hold be back or treat me differently because of my sexuality, I'll be all up on that. In the professional world, be it sports, work, barrel racing, whatever,....no one should be treated any differently because of sexuality, race, religion, so on and so forth. No ones going to force you to be friends with them, but you should be able to manage to be a decent human being and interact and work with them well on a professional level.
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-05-12 9:27 AM Personally, I couldn't care less about his sexual orientation. The media is turning it into their own tawdry circus. It sounds like he is a good player. The rest is just a tempest in a teapot, as far as I'm concerned. I hope he makes it, but not because he is gay, rather, because he turns out to be good on the field. I hope he sets a good example as a good man who does good things off the field, as opposed to some of the spoiled brats we've grown accustomed to seeing in recent years. It sounds like the kid has had to overcome more obstacles than just hiding his sexuality when he was growing up. He was raised by his mother, as his father basically ran off shortly after he was born. Of his 5 brothers, one died in infancy, one disappeared, one was shot right in front of Micheal, and two are in prison. For some time as a kid he lived in a car with his mother. I don't have a clue what kind of person he is, but I hope he proves to be good enough to make it and that he is a good, productive citizen who gives something back. If he does all that, given his experiences growing up, that would really be something to admire.
See why doesn't the media focus the other things of what makes him a good pick? I'd rather hear that story as far as coming from a hard life rather than hearing about him being gay and kissing his boyfriend. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | osu_barrelracer - 2014-05-14 12:53 PM
I don't think it should be as big of news as it is...for the simple fact that he's a good player, but like said before, his stats weren't that outstanding. I think it is a big issue, because the majority of people feel that it is hard to be openly gay in the professional world (and not just the professional sports world ). Because of that, when you see someone overcome that, its a big deal to them. More power to them.
Personally, I came out in college...my rodeo team could give a crap less if i was dating another girl. All they cared about was winning ; ) lol.
I've been openly gay forever....I don't walk around work introducing myself "Hi I'm Sergeant Sullivan and I'm a lesbian." Who cares? Its my life, not yours. lol. If people figure it out good for them. I will never 'shove it' in someone's face. But you better believe I am an opinionated woman, and if you start trying to hold be back or treat me differently because of my sexuality, I'll be all up on that. In the professional world, be it sports, work, barrel racing, whatever,....no one should be treated any differently because of sexuality, race, religion, so on and so forth. No ones going to force you to be friends with them, but you should be able to manage to be a decent human being and interact and work with them well on a professional level.
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Location: Midwest | GWR - 2014-05-14 2:06 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-12 9:27 AM Personally, I couldn't care less about his sexual orientation. The media is turning it into their own tawdry circus. It sounds like he is a good player. The rest is just a tempest in a teapot, as far as I'm concerned. I hope he makes it, but not because he is gay, rather, because he turns out to be good on the field. I hope he sets a good example as a good man who does good things off the field, as opposed to some of the spoiled brats we've grown accustomed to seeing in recent years. It sounds like the kid has had to overcome more obstacles than just hiding his sexuality when he was growing up. He was raised by his mother, as his father basically ran off shortly after he was born. Of his 5 brothers, one died in infancy, one disappeared, one was shot right in front of Micheal, and two are in prison. For some time as a kid he lived in a car with his mother. I don't have a clue what kind of person he is, but I hope he proves to be good enough to make it and that he is a good, productive citizen who gives something back. If he does all that, given his experiences growing up, that would really be something to admire. See why doesn't the media focus the other things of what makes him a good pick? I'd rather hear that story as far as coming from a hard life rather than hearing about him being gay and kissing his boyfriend.
Because focusing on his sexuality has more people watching...hence they get more money for the advertising time the networks sell. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-14 11:21 AM Nevertooold - 2014-05-14 11:12 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-14 11:00 AM brlraceaddict - 2014-05-14 10:55 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-14 8:44 AM We're going camping at the Conrad Hotel in Chicago in June for a couple days. That's my idea of fun camping. A great Chicago restaurant, meeting some old buddies, a Cubs game at Wrigley....and camping at the Conrad. Hotbear - I am a bit disappointed - no Chicago style pizza is on that list!
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Also can I just say that it's nice to see so many people on this board practicing tolerance. I've been here since 2009 and never said anything about my sexuality until a couple of months ago on a different thread - partially because it never came up (and I didn't have a real girlfriend until recently), but also because it doesn't take much to see that a vast majority of this board are faithful Christians. Even though Christians are suppose to practice love thy neighbor and all of that, for whatever reason there are a LOT who are more like "love thy neighbor - unless they're gay" and it made it intimidating for me because I didn't know if it was something I needed to keep a secret or not.
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Location: NM...the Land of Manana | livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-14 1:23 PM Also can I just say that it's nice to see so many people on this board practicing tolerance. I've been here since 2009 and never said anything about my sexuality until a couple of months ago on a different thread - partially because it never came up (and I didn't have a real girlfriend until recently), but also because it doesn't take much to see that a vast majority of this board are faithful Christians. Even though Christians are suppose to practice love thy neighbor and all of that, for whatever reason there are a LOT who are more like "love thy neighbor - unless they're gay" and it made it intimidating for me because I didn't know if it was something I needed to keep a secret or not. I know that homosexuality goes against most of your guys' beliefs. Thank you for not being cruel about it though.
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I still remember the first time I encountered this situation when I was in college. A friend of mine and I would drive back home together since it was a 6 hour drive...one day she told me she was gay and what I thought, it took me a minute but I told her what difference does it make to me, I liked her because she was my friend not because of her sexual orientation. We also had a discussion that life would be a lot easier if more people would keep what goes on in their bedroom to themselves. But of course that is just my opinion. | |
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Location: Oklahoma | nmeastplains - 2014-05-14 3:01 PM I still remember the first time I encountered this situation when I was in college. A friend of mine and I would drive back home together since it was a 6 hour drive...one day she told me she was gay and what I thought, it took me a minute but I told her what difference does it make to me, I liked her because she was my friend not because of her sexual orientation. We also had a discussion that life would be a lot easier if more people would keep what goes on in their bedroom to themselves. But of course that is just my opinion.
I agree with you, to a point. Yes you should keep things in the bedroom to the extent that no one should be running around flaunting your 'bedroom' activities....BUT, I also don't think that someone's opinion that its weird, or gross, or unnatural, should have anything to do with my rights. At that point, I will argue with someone that I'm not going to 'keep quite' about my life. Look at me as a normal person (I swear I'm pretty close to normal  ), and give me the same basic rights to get married, have the same govt rights and guarantees as a couple, get divorced, and do it all over again (like everyone else can), and I guarantee you, unless your a close friend, you wouldn't even know I was gay ;) | |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | osu_barrelracer - 2014-05-14 2:24 PM nmeastplains - 2014-05-14 3:01 PM I still remember the first time I encountered this situation when I was in college. A friend of mine and I would drive back home together since it was a 6 hour drive...one day she told me she was gay and what I thought, it took me a minute but I told her what difference does it make to me, I liked her because she was my friend not because of her sexual orientation. We also had a discussion that life would be a lot easier if more people would keep what goes on in their bedroom to themselves. But of course that is just my opinion. I agree with you, to a point. Yes you should keep things in the bedroom to the extent that no one should be running around flaunting your 'bedroom' activities....BUT, I also don't think that someone's opinion that its weird, or gross, or unnatural, should have anything to do with my rights. At that point, I will argue with someone that I'm not going to 'keep quite' about my life. Look at me as a normal person (I swear I'm pretty close to normal ), and give me the same basic rights to get married, have the same govt rights and guarantees as a couple, get divorced, and do it all over again (like everyone else can ), and I guarantee you, unless your a close friend, you wouldn't even know I was gay ; )
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-05-14 11:00 AM brlraceaddict - 2014-05-14 10:55 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-14 8:44 AM We're going camping at the Conrad Hotel in Chicago in June for a couple days. That's my idea of fun camping. A great Chicago restaurant, meeting some old buddies, a Cubs game at Wrigley....and camping at the Conrad. Hotbear - I am a bit disappointed - no Chicago style pizza is on that list!
Sorry Bear, I've been busy with work.
You,ve got some great suggestions already but here would be my list for a baseball trip to Chicago:
1) Carson's Ribs - old hangout of Harry Carey and pretty good ribs.
2) Cape Cod Room at Drake Hotel. Been there since the 1930's and still has the original wooden bar. That bar now has 1,000's of signatures dating back to the '30's including Joe Dimaggio, Marilyn Monroe and several presidents.
3) House of Blue's is absolutely the place for Blues in Chicago.
4) Hot dogs. Other than Wrigley, the street vendors in Chicago have the best freaking dog in the world.
5) Hotel. I always stay at the Drake. It's not quite as modern as some of the others but there's a lot of history there. It's sentimental to me though because my Dad stayed there. I like to go down to the bar and serch for his name on the bar.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Thanks, Jim! It looks like we need to stay for a week with all these great suggestions. Good thing it's a month away because I'm going to need to go on a huge fast and starve myself for about 10 days......kinda like.....a bear! | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | .....one more question, TxBO. Any suggestions for chick food? You know....places where they specialize in salads and plants and nuts? | |
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Location: Midwest | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-15 10:32 AM .....one more question, TxBO. Any suggestions for chick food? You know....places where they specialize in salads and plants and nuts?
The Girl and The Goat.... reservations are pretty far out though. Place is super hot right now. | |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 10:38 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-15 10:32 AM .....one more question, TxBO. Any suggestions for chick food? You know....places where they specialize in salads and plants and nuts? The Girl and The Goat.... reservations are pretty far out though. Place is super hot right now.
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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2014-05-15 10:42 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-05-15 10:38 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-05-15 10:32 AM .....one more question, TxBO. Any suggestions for chick food? You know....places where they specialize in salads and plants and nuts? The Girl and The Goat.... reservations are pretty far out though. Place is super hot right now.
Me too actually, but my coworkers raved about this place. LOL
I do like McCormick and Schmick's.... menu's printed daily for seafood and steak. | |
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Location: Midwest | Frontier was also interesting if you'd like some semi-exotic meats. It's like a bar/grill casual type place. | |
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