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That was just heart wrenching to read. I would love to think there was a "bigger plan" to all of this as some of you have mentioned but I just don't think this administration is that smart. I still believe Obama has always had plans to destroy this country and now I'm afraid all Americans are fair game now that we are negotiating with terrorists. I hope that all of the families involved in this are able to fine peace. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | All the ones that give good advice and have got heart have that one person that loves to hit the dislike button, cause they are so not liking themselves so the dislike is perfect for them, Poor things
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| Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision? |
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          Location: Washington | TXBO - 2014-06-03 10:56 AM Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision?
Bergdahl still belongs to his unit. It will be up to the Battalion commander to start the procedure. I hope he has to get in line. |
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  Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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     Location: In a happy place | missroselee - 2014-06-02 4:08 PM I don't have time to sit down and read all the posts....
My only thought is that America does NOT negotiate. It has worked for generations and our fore fathers honored that.
Our Commander in Cheif.....well.....God help us all.....
Did you happen to see the statement Ms Clinton made this morning? Made me want to . And to think she could be the next President if our country lasts that long. |
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 I'm not opinionated
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      Location: Online | Griz - 2014-06-03 11:00 AM Just Bring It - 2014-06-03 11:41 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content. If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction. I'm pretty sure I have one too! hahaha I guess I have one too!
Oh, I'm pretty sure I have one too, I'm sure it's the same person dislike stalking all of us, and I'm pretty sure I know who it is. It's just amusing, that's all. Sometimes I like to see just how many dislikes I can get, just for some entertainment.  |
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| fatchance - 2014-06-03 1:03 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 10:56 AM Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision? Bergdahl still belongs to his unit. It will be up to the Battalion commander to start the procedure. I hope he has to get in line.
Fatchance, do you think it will happen? |
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  You just got to get mean and mean it.
     Location: Arkansas | Probably not, TxBO. From what I've heard, they may think that the time he spent in the company of his "captors" was enough. Unless they can prove he deserted his post. Remember, he'll be treated just the same as you or I, innocent until proven guilty. |
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  The Original Cyber Bartender
          Location: Washington | TXBO - 2014-06-03 11:37 AM fatchance - 2014-06-03 1:03 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 10:56 AM Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision? Bergdahl still belongs to his unit. It will be up to the Battalion commander to start the procedure. I hope he has to get in line. Fatchance, do you think it will happen? There are two courses of action the military can take, one is a court martial, the other choices, a Bad conduct discharge or dishonorable discharge. The later of the two would mean he get's nothing from the military and no benifits. Those usually come with prison time. I don't see that happening unless they can prove he gave them military locations to hit. IMHO the military wants to take it to him, but they have to go by the book. My husband and I talked about this last night...and he said he would have used every inch of his power to take this guy down, the battalion commander that had him is now long gone, but Mitch felt he would be calling the current commander of the unit with first hand information.
IF military action doesn't take place to Bergdahl, if I was one of the surviving spouses,siblings,parents,etc of the six who lost their lives being sent out looking for him... I would be getting a lawyer.
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        Location: ND | I will be interested in what comes out from this...esp in light about what comes out each day it seems......my preliminary opinion is that this guy should have never been traded for......esp not high value detainees.....of course....maybe it was a special intelligence mission and now the detainees are bugged and there will be drone strikes over the next few years killing more high value targets.....who knows....maybe this was the plan all along.....the little i know thus far, he seems like a disgrace to our country......but then again, i see Ed Snowden, as a patriot....... |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Just Bring It - 2014-06-03 11:41 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content. If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction. I'm pretty sure I have one too! hahaha
So do I and it makes me very proud.
If Obama was white he would have been impeached a long time ago. I see he has his lap dog, Susan Rice, spewing more BS. Proves she has shit for brains or is a very imcompetent pompous ass. |
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       Location: relocated to Texas | Lobo - 2014-06-03 8:43 AM So do I. But I'm going to wait until there
is more reliable information out. So far it sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.
I do take exception to the member's of Congress squalling because they weren't notified before the hand off. I suppose they wanted to debate it for a few weeks. They couldn't get anything done without debate even if their pant's were on fire!
We have three branches of government, not a dictatorship. The three branches were designed as a safety net to guard against decisions being made by a power hungry ruler. This absolutely should have gone through Congress and it would have been shot down, I am betting. |
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 Forever Young
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       Location: relocated to Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-06-03 10:59 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-02 11:41 AM I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be. Obama would need intelligence to do this and we all know Obama doesn't have any intelligence and has himself surrounded by a ship of fools.
I truly believe Obama is not on our side. This was probably planned a long time ago. Clint Eastwood said it best when he said Obama was the greatest hoax ever seen played on the American people. It is a planned and plotted course of action to take America down. |
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  You just got to get mean and mean it.
     Location: Arkansas | If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair? |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
As we should be! Because his negotiated trade for release NEVER should have happened. |
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 Tried and True
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         Location: Where I am happiest | dhdqhllc - 2014-06-03 2:20 PM I will be interested in what comes out from this...esp in light about what comes out each day it seems......my preliminary opinion is that this guy should have never been traded for......esp not high value detainees.....of course....maybe it was a special intelligence mission and now the detainees are bugged and there will be drone strikes over the next few years killing more high value targets.....who knows....maybe this was the plan all along.....the little i know thus far, he seems like a disgrace to our country......but then again, i see Ed Snowden, as a patriot.......
I think this is the first time I actually agree with everything you said. lol |
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 Forever Young
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       Location: relocated to Texas | Lobo - 2014-06-04 1:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair? Let's see...debate with the "do nothing" Congress until next year, OR immediately unleash known terrorists because King Obama thinks its a good idea. HMMMM...I guess I see your logic - NOT!
Yep, Eastwood was brilliant. The empty chair symbolized Obama. How appropriate.
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     Location: Do I hear Banjos? | The White House has apologized to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for failing to alert her in advance of a decision to release Taliban commanders from Guantanamo Bay.
Feinstein told reporters that she received a call from Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken on Monday evening apologizing for what the administration is calling an “oversight."
"I had a call from the White House last night, from Tony Blinken, apologizing for it,” she said.
“He apologized and said it was an oversight,” she added.
Feinstein also said leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence panels were almost unanimously against a prisoner trade when it came up in 2011.
She said the chairmen and ranking Republicans of the “connected committees” spent a lot of time in 2011 reviewing the possibility of a prisoner swap and came out firmly opposed to releasing senior militants from the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay.
“There were very strong views and they were virtually unanimous against the trade,” she said.
“I certainly want to know more about whether this man was a deserter,” she said of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was released to American special forces in return for the freedom of five senior Taliban commanders.
Administration officials have said in public that they did not have time to inform Congress of the prisoner swap because Bergdahl’s life was in danger and they did not know how long the Taliban would be willing to wait to finalize the deal.
So from that I gather that Obama made an end run around congress not because there wasn't any urgency...but rather because he Already KNEW that the vast majority of congress was against trading high profile terrorists for this guy. Nice...and not at all a surprise.
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  You just got to get mean and mean it.
     Location: Arkansas | I still think letting the Justices, Court or Military handle the disposition of Bergdahl is the best method. Not a single one of us know what happened, just rumors and innuendo's. Due to past militry experience, we can guess what will be done...but it's a new military. This is, after all, a country of Law's. If he end's up in Leavenworth or home in Idaho...so be it.
And Estwood looked like an idiot! 
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| Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
So the rule of laws is subject to convenience? |
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