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Location: In the Hills of Texas | So has there been any word on how Jud is going to handle the payout since it seems some were paid already?
This is going to cause a lot of hard feelings. I feel nothing for Troy or the owner. I feel for all the people that it's going to affect.
Edited by Nevertooold 2014-10-01 12:41 PM
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I have a good idea...they should take all of Troy's winnings and pay the ones that ended up placing and then had their placings taken away. Sounds fair to me. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Nevertooold - 2014-10-01 12:43 PM I have a good idea...they should take all of Troy's winnings and pay the ones that ended up placing and then had their placings taken away. Sounds fair to me.
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | TOBY - 2014-10-01 12:35 PM cindyt - 2014-10-01 12:13 PM Whiteboy - 2014-10-01 11:06 AM fatchance - 2014-10-01 10:40 AM Whiteboy - 2014-10-01 8:36 AM fatchance - 2014-10-01 9:52 AM IMHO it's way past time for Lip Tattoo's. Even grade horses would need them to compete. It was just a few months ago that a TB mare ran in a QH race on the track. They were supposed to verify papers and lip tattoos. "Mistakes" will still happen whenever we are dealing with people and money.
Mistake? hummmm he knows the rules
Heres where Im at...lol
I wasn't there, I wasn't entered but my friends were, One lost a big paycheck over this deal and while not a big deal to him Im sure, it is to her. Im more livid for her then she is! so no matter what happens what he says, unless he brings her that 2k+ check she thought she won and would have won if he had been legit I aint buyin it....
IMMA ROAD TRIP TO FREAKIN OHIO IF I HAVTA!
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Location: North Dakota | Nevertooold - 2014-10-01 12:43 PM I have a good idea...they should take all of Troy's winnings and pay the ones that ended up placing and then had their placings taken away. Sounds fair to me.
Sounds good to me. lol |
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Location: Montana | Here's just a hypothetical question: what if Troy hadn't won on that horse? Would anyone have noticed or cared even if it would still have been "illegal"? I wasn't there so I don't know the whole story. I agree it is a mess...but even the little jackpots I go to have their screwups...I remember one this summer with about 35 entries is all...and it changed the whole 3D.
IMO, he should be reprimanded, perhaps a suspension from that particular barrel race for a certain amount of time (not for life by any means). IDK, I forgive too easy I guess. |
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| How many of you commenting actually saw the entry form. It was literally one of the most confusing entry forms I have ever tried to fill out. The futurity horses that ran on Saturday could carry their times over to Sunday's race. BUT not if they were in the Future Fortunes, then you had to actually run on Sunday. Then there were all the AQHA carryovers in to the Open. I'm sure trying the get it all sorted in the office had to be a nightmare as well. The more classes and carryovers you offer, the more confusing it gets.
What happenes to the people that already received and deposited their checks?? I know it's a lot of money, but you can't say 2 days later "Oops, there was a mistake, we need your $2,000 back". Granted I've done it at a much smaller scale, but when a payout was screwed up, we ate what was wrong and made right what should have been right regardless of whos screw up it was (office or contestant). Once results were posted and checks cut, we honored them and then tried to make it right if there was a mistake. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | Heres the biggest picture, "this mess" added one name to the 1D list of winners, took his name out, (he won the whole chit and chabang, he was the fast time) this had what 600 entries and it now changed every winner from all the other D's.
So the 15 people (in each D) that thought they had a check coming and some of those were pretty hefty, now get nothing, because of him.
Im not buyin this "mistake" That's like Sherry Cervi entering twice in the same rodeo... seriously, if she runs in the slack sat she can't run sunday...
Edited by cindyt 2014-10-01 2:00 PM
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | LRQHS - 2014-10-01 10:42 AM fatchance - 2014-10-01 10:40 AM Whiteboy - 2014-10-01 8:36 AM fatchance - 2014-10-01 9:52 AM IMHO it's way past time for Lip Tattoo's. Even grade horses would need them to compete. It was just a few months ago that a TB mare ran in a QH race on the track. They were supposed to verify papers and lip tattoos. "Mistakes" will still happen whenever we are dealing with people and money.
Similar situation happened in Louisiana a few years ago. WRONG horse gets brought to the paddock, identifier lets horse through. Horse gets claimed. New trainer figured out that it wasn't the horse that it was suppose to be...identifier fired and trainer got fined big bucks. |
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Location: ND | cindyt - 2014-10-01 1:59 PM Heres the biggest picture, "this mess" added one name to the 1D list of winners, took his name out, (he won the whole chit and chabang, he was the fast time) this had what 600 entries and it now changed every winner from all the other D's.
So the 15 people (in each D) that thought they had a check coming and some of those were pretty hefty, now get nothing, because of him.
Im not buyin this "mistake" That's like Sherry Cervi entering twice in the same rodeo... seriously, if she runs in the slack sat she can't run sunday... yeah....what a bitch to move up a spot......lol
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| cindyt - 2014-10-01 11:59 AM
Heres the biggest picture, "this mess" added one name to the 1D list of winners, took his name out, (he won the whole chit and chabang, he was the fast time) this had what 600 entries and it now changed every winner from all the other D's.Â
So the 15 people (in each D) that thought they had a check coming and some of those were pretty hefty, now get nothing, because of him. Â
Im not buyin this "mistake"  That's like Sherry Cervi entering twice in the same rodeo... seriously, if she runs in the slack sat she can't run sunday... Â
Those people only thought they had a big check coming because it was posted by the office staff! Granted Troy screwed up, and I cut him no slack. You should know which horses you are competing on and what they have been entered in. But there's another side that had results posted for almost 2 days before they went "Oops" we found a mistake. Troy didn't post the results of the other winners and write the checks. |
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | dhdqhllc - 2014-10-01 2:05 PM cindyt - 2014-10-01 1:59 PM Heres the biggest picture, "this mess" added one name to the 1D list of winners, took his name out, (he won the whole chit and chabang, he was the fast time) this had what 600 entries and it now changed every winner from all the other D's.
So the 15 people (in each D) that thought they had a check coming and some of those were pretty hefty, now get nothing, because of him.
Im not buyin this "mistake" That's like Sherry Cervi entering twice in the same rodeo... seriously, if she runs in the slack sat she can't run sunday... yeah....what a bitch to move up a spot......lol
Edited by cindyt 2014-10-01 2:33 PM
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Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | 3 To Go - 2014-10-01 2:06 PM cindyt - 2014-10-01 11:59 AM Heres the biggest picture, "this mess" added one name to the 1D list of winners, took his name out, (he won the whole chit and chabang, he was the fast time) this had what 600 entries and it now changed every winner from all the other D's.
So the 15 people (in each D) that thought they had a check coming and some of those were pretty hefty, now get nothing, because of him.
Im not buyin this "mistake" That's like Sherry Cervi entering twice in the same rodeo... seriously, if she runs in the slack sat she can't run sunday... Those people only thought they had a big check coming because it was posted by the office staff! Granted Troy screwed up, and I cut him no slack. You should know which horses you are competing on and what they have been entered in. But there's another side that had results posted for almost 2 days before they went "Oops" we found a mistake. Troy didn't post the results of the other winners and write the checks.
When results are posted they usually aren't by the winner...lol
Im sure the Little crew had no clue he did what he did till someone figured it out
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| It seems that the Registered Name would have to be used if it was a FF horse in order for them to know that the horse was one of theirs as they are enrolled under registered names. I wasn't there but just seeing all the comments about the way entries and roll overs etc. was done, it's giving me a headache! Sounds like a big ol' mess. |
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| runs4fun - 2014-10-01 12:38 PM
It seems that the Registered Name would have to be used if it was a FF horse in order for them to know that the horse was one of theirs as they are enrolled under registered names. Â I wasn't there but just seeing all the comments about the way entries and roll overs etc. was done, it's giving me a headache! Â Sounds like a big ol' mess.Â
It wasn't a FF horse. But Troy had others that were and had to run. Hence the confusion. |
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Location: BELLEVUE, IA | And when did they figure it out ? I was one of the people who got bumped out and no one called me, texted me, emailed me that anything had changed that's the thing that bothers me most. Here I have been patiently waiting for my check and then to find out via social media seems wrong. I think that we deserved a call before this was let out of the bag. I feel so bad for those who got their checks if they are made to pay it back but I don't see how they would let some keep them and not pay out everyone else. Has anyone even seen a statement from any one at Judd Littles regarding any of this? |
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| I think this whole thing is going to be a big black eye to Jud and Troy in the future, lucky for both of them, they have the ability to absorbe a few black eyes. |
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Location: Indiana | CindyT you have to be the st--- person. Your friend didn't win 2100 because she didn't run fast enough. Would you be mad if Troy run that same time and hit a barrel. you would be saying Troy owes my friend her money because he hit a barrel and am driving to OH to get my money.
Am sorry but if you cant run 1d and 6 horses 3 days in a row then shut up and sit down. It was a mistake and Troy or the owners needed to cheat to prove they have the best horse.
You people that think Troy did this to cheat are jealous and don't have anything better to do then point the finger. And the ones that want him Banned just think he wont be there to put you in the 3d next time so think about those apples. |
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